Argo, set in 1979, has Ben Affleck wearing a Rolex DeepSea....
As Christmas can be a time for a TV binge, I watched two historical dramas.
The Bonfire of Destiny, set in 1897 shows the leading lady looking at a 1960s bangle wrist watch !
Even worse, Thieves of the Wood, set in the 18th century in Belgium, has the leading man lovingly admiring his quartz pocket watch !
Seems like the property masters haven't got a clue about the history of watches and it kind of spoils the period fantasy.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Argo, set in 1979, has Ben Affleck wearing a Rolex DeepSea....
Rumour has it that Spartacus has extras wearing watches, but I’ve not noticed personally.
Air America set in 1969, looks a bit more 80’s.
Last edited by Lammylee; 5th January 2020 at 01:18.
I posted on here a year or so ago when I watched a western where the cowboy raised his shirt sleeve to get the time from his 1865 wristwatch !
The BBC go to a lot of trouble to get the period right and I'd like to think that a letter I wrote to them in the 70s helped a little when a Victorian drama had 20th century pendant wound pocket watches in it. Got to keep them on their toes !!
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Costume and props usually are quite particular with the “hero” artefacts . However usually its a case of needs must to make up the numbers for the extras or lesser cast.
Usually the limitations are known about and flagged ( many Highly paid eyes on film sets) but film making is always chaotic and fluid , plans change , things break , the director may like a shot or part of a shot that wasn’t meant to be used months later in the edit and may prioritise the performance or something over an error of incidental detail.
Films are not reality and human beings can only do so much . The whole is greater than the sum of its parts but its extremely rare for something to go in noticed for the film geeks to discover. Usually its been well flagged beforehand and dismissed as not a priority.
deleted
I believe Brad Pitt’s character in once upon a time in Hollywood is wearing a Citizen bullhead chrono first produced in 1972, and the film is set in 1969. Unlike Tarantino to miss little bits like that!
None of it is real so it matters not to me. If i do spot one though i kind of like it and find it amusing.
We notice watches because we know about them.
I'm sure there are a myriad of wrongly used components in films that we are unaware of and people on other forums are pointing out at this moment.
Cheers,
Neil.
Neither can I: who is this Carl Douglas you speak of?
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
In The Silent Enemy, which is set in the Second World War, Laurence Harvey wears a Rolex Submariner.
The sub was first produced at around the time the film was made, long after the war.
But it’s still a good film.
Once Upon a Time … In Hollywood, a Watch Was Miscast
https://wornandwound.com/once-upon-a...h-was-miscast/
The Big Short - Steve Carell who plays mark Mark Baum is wearing a maxi case Sub when the film is based in 2007/2008.
Le Mans 1966 - Matt Damon playing Carol Shelby is wearing a Heuer Carrera Reference 7753 introduced circa 1970.
Andy
Wanted - Damasko DC57
In Force 10 from Navarone, Robert Shaw looks at his Hamilton 6b a watch issued about 23 years after the film was set.
He’s a well known maker of perhaps the finest single and double sculls (rowing boats) money can buy: https://www.carldouglasrowing.com/
RailUK Forums is a joy for this sort of thing
Yesterday I went to see the film "Official Secrets", which is about GCHQ whistleblower Katherine Gun. It is based on a true story about a leaked memo about the 2003 Iraq war, and it takes place in Cheltenham, where GCHQ's main site is, but according to Wikipedia it was actually filmed in Yorkshire.
There are a couple of scenes of her on board a Class 101 DMU, supposedly travelling from Cheltenham to London and back. 2003 was the 101s' last year of service on the national rail network, but by that time the then First North Western was the only train operator still using them. If you look carefully, the unit used in the film appears to have FNW signage. Does anyone know which railway those scenes were filmed on? My guess would be the Keighley & Worth Valley or the East Lancs, or it might have been filmed on board a regular FNW service train.
If the film had been set in the 1980s, a 101 would have been authentic, as I would guess that in those days if you were travelling from Cheltenham to London at a time when there was no through train, you would have taken a DMU to Swindon or Worcester and then changed for London Paddington.
Don Draper in Mad Men wore a number of different luxury watches throughout the series. Article about the here:
https://www.watchtime.com/blog/5-watch-brands-mad-men/
I seem to remember reading somewhere else that the Rolex Explorer reference he was wearing in season 4 would not have been available at that time. At a guess I think season 4 would’ve been set around 1964/5. I think in one episode Don was trying to land the Rolex account, and I remember them definitely having Hamilton as a client.
The Bank Job, set in 1971 sees Jason Statham wearing a reissue TAG Heuer Monaco, not the worlds biggest blunder but it’s still wrong.
....which is odd as Jason Statham is supposedly a big watch fan
Sent from my iPad using TZ-UK mobile app
I try not to let it worry me... like these saddos who used to write in to ITV to complain about Heartbeat using a car which wasn't released until the month after supposed setting, or using a song from 1969 in a 1968 scene... how the hell dare they???!!!
I quite like watch spotting on telly but hunting for inaccuracies? Lifes too short. When I start writing to the BBC it's time to hide my shoelaces, it means the end is nigh.
(No offence intended to anyone, not a swipe at webwatchmaker, I just cant imagine reaching that point myself).
That does not surprise me, they are an odd bunch (about as odd as people on watch fora) and I am sure it is infectious. I've only been involved in a couple of rail and Underground projects but have felt the same compulsions. While watching an episode of Sherlock I found myself thinking that the carriage in the scene could not have been the one discussed in an earlier scene as it wouldn't have run on that line. I immediately took myself away from the TV and gave myself a cold shower to quell the demons.
Tapatapatapatapatalk
Offence not taken. But watchmaking is an art for the self critical perfectionist. And it is fitting that dramas should try to get the periods right. Property buyers and set dressers get paid enough and for the most part they are quite good.
I must admit I notice things like longcase clocks that are never working in the backgrounds but I guess there's a reason for that.
Historical accuracy is important to me as TV and film should be educational as well as entertaining.
Apart from that I find it amusing to spot these bloopers.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
The single biggest anachronism is horse tack.
You’ll regularly see modern equipment on horses in films set hundreds and even thousands of years ago.
They’ll wrap some leather strips around it and rub some dirt in but its really akin to seeing someone driving a 60s mini cooper un a roman epic.
Not much to be done given the safety requirements involving animals these days ( I still think some people abuse horses on film sets and it should he stricter).
Watching Knightfall, a drama set in the 12th century. The alchemist is asked 'How are the stars reading ? '. He replies 'Mars and Pluto are aligned'.
Curious as Pluto was only discovered in 1930 !
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I know these things are only fiction, but sometimes the period sloppiness really bugs me. Its that you know someone is being paid possibly huge sums of money to create an accurate period set in a film or TV programme, but even I can tell that there are so many errors.
As we've already mentioned train failings, these are just ludicrous. The recent TV adaptation of War of the Worlds seemed to imply that Woking or wherever it was set on the Waterloo main line was served by a GWR branch line! OK most normal people won't care, but I'm sad enough to be irritated!
As for watches, the Xmas TV was so bad I had to watch Carry On Up the Khyber for the umpteenth time. I did notice that in the very final scene Kenneth Williams had obviously forgotten to take his watch off - I don't think wrist watches were that common in 1893 when the film was set! I understand that the shooting schedule for the Carry On films was so rapid that they wouldn't have reshot the scene even if anyone had noticed!
I'm not good enough to spot inaccuracies for the most part but I often get distracted by scenes that are set at one time of the year but film at another.
Usually it's the background that's wrong; you'll watch a scene set in winter and there are clearly deciduous trees covered in green leaves behind the actors.
Sent from my SM-G903F using TZ-UK mobile app