Reply With QuoteBecause Pierre DeRoche does it with 6, and at this price point, it’s a novel concept that no-one else does or has done before – it’s certainly one way to stand out from the competing alternatives.
Just saw a review of this on SJX.
Tissot triple seconds - take a running seconds subdial and split it in 3
Why ?!
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Because Pierre DeRoche does it with 6, and at this price point, it’s a novel concept that no-one else does or has done before – it’s certainly one way to stand out from the competing alternatives.
Why? Cheap shortcut to fashionable busyness of dial.
A foudroyante is probably a little silly; a seconde morte is equally silly.
But together, my goodness. Together, they are the epitome of pointless-yet-utterly-brilliant complications...
Probably.
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I'd say quirky, not useless.
Not sure why they felt the need to have a bezel that counts seconds with out a central hand mind you.
Wasn't the clever bit the series of retrograde hands?Originally Posted by PJ S
The Tissot looks like a set of three linked, but offset hands, each running twenty seconds "ahead" of the other.
And when you're bored of it, please do let me know. That's two I have missed out on now :(
I've just recently seen a foudroyante on a JLC and, as useless as it would be for me, I found it mesmerising to look at.
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The Tissot looks OK, unil you actually understand the complication, when it becomes a bit ridiculous, however, as others say, it's different!!
The foudroyante 1/5 sec however, together with the dead beat secons hand, whilst still being pointless, is utterly beguiling. I haven't seen it on a mechanical watch before!
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1/8th surely?? And yes, pointless, but utterly beguiling. You'd find yourself staring at it too often to be healthy.
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I also remember seeing a Foudroyante it was impressive but as you say rather useless especially as it was a 28,800 beat so measured 1/8s rather than 1/10s.
It doesn't actually measure anything. It's just an indicator.
The 1/10th chronos are a little more complicated. And potentially more useful.
I think Habring2 did a combination of that - a subdial showing 1/8s and a central jump second. Think I might be able to find a video....
....here we go:
In fact it seems that everyone who owns one has put a video of it on youtube....
Last edited by Der Amf; 17th June 2016 at 09:47.
how about this
Indeed, it does seem a stunningly pointless complication!
M.
Oh I didn't realise "all" it did was fly round the dial as was marked in 1/8s so I assumed it was a stopwatch - still pointless really but that makes it even more so !
I also remember being shown a Parmigani Minute Repeater - that was an an amazing amount of necessary engineering !
See above. Apologies if it's not clear from my video of my watch.
My whole life is full of pointless complications. The last thing I need them on is a watch.
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
Your video wasn't working for me
hmm now I want to try that Habring2 - how much they go for new? I'm assuming second hand is rare.
I think I would want to stab a compass through that.
If I were completely practical, the only really useful complication for me is a second hand, but I'm not, so I like chronos & mission timers, tachymetre bezels etc. I haven't got my head around a fourdewhatever though.
Anyone use their Apnea timer?
Or anything else that takes 6 minutes
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Undoubtedly so, and I think you’re right about the setup in the Tissot, which uses the ETA 2825.
Although date is generally considered a complication, seconds are generally not. Nor are bezels.
The most pointless complication** is the tri-axis tourbillon, surely? Adds nothing to timekeeping, but adds a few hundred extra parts to go wrong.
Obviously, I'd absolutely *love* a tri-axis tourbillon. Ideally a mystery version. Probably.
**some don't consider a tourbillon to be a complication either. But then again, they probably call the automatic rotor a complication. Probably.
I never even update the date on my daily wearers (Panerai / Breitling / Oakley) so to me that's a pointless complication!
how about this
"Hey a yay-guh-le-coouter! Those are really high-end right? Oh you've got a quartz one."
Still, rather graily.
I suspect they aren't retrograde. I suspect it's just three sub-seconds dials with a different bit of each hidden. i.e. they are all running all the time.
I was talking about the one with six retrograde hands.
I was at a watch dinner recently wearing a dead seconds watch. I was sat next to a collector who asked what quartz watch I was wearing.
Oh. And it's zhay-zhaer. Probably.
I remember being very disappointed when I discovered that this interesting-looking chrono is just three hands of different lengths fixed at 120 degrees to each other on a 2/3rds-hidden subdial
Quite...
For those unaware of who Pierre DeRoche are, he (Pierre Dubois, CEO) is the third brother in the Dubois family – the one we’re all familiar with for their chronograph, annual calendar, and numerous other complication modules...Dubois-Dépraz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ToUN7_96RM
That is rather beautiful - but I suspect out of my budget
Surely the king of pointless complications - arguably the whole watch is one:
Without wanting to enflame any passions, it's arguable that there are uses for the apps on the watch. Unlike the 3 part hidden subdials on the Tissot. However, as someone noted, it's quite interesting looking.Surely the king of pointless complications - arguably the whole watch is one:
I never really understood why chronographs are so common when I'd use an alarm more. Or those date windows that show you yesterday's and tomorrow's dates. Or a second hand on a quartz.
Alarms are linked to the hour hand. I would like an alarm triggered by the minute hand.
I used to have a Seiko 6M26 movement watch, a quartz with all kinds of functions. The countdown alarm, settable for up to sixty minutes was the most useful, I found.
Could always just buy myself a kitchen pinger, I suppose
I'd also add the moonphase - who really cares about that on a watch?!?
Its so cool though
Werewolves?I'd also add the moonphase - who really cares about that on a watch?!?
Its so cool though
My JLC chronograph does 1/6th second on the foudroyante. It's great to watch but also great to be able to stop it on demand!
Really can't see the attraction of having a mechanical that ticks like a quartz! Just my opinion, though.
Sorry!
Pre-dates Quartz by a couple of centuries. But there you are.
I just googled the 6m26 movement. Some of those were quite classy. Gonna go do some research now.Alarms are linked to the hour hand. I would like an alarm triggered by the minute hand.
I used to have a Seiko 6M26 movement watch, a quartz with all kinds of functions. The countdown alarm, settable for up to sixty minutes was the most useful, I found.
Could always just buy myself a kitchen pinger, I suppose
It was an absolute delight. Two problems with my watch: integrated bracelet and the chronograph bleeps whenever you press the buttons. Otherwise a total joy.
No, still can't concede that you are right...
Moon phase and time are vastly overrated IMHO
21,600 bph movement I guess ? It is clever to move the hand so fast although it still surprises me you can't use it for timing.
Not a complication, but thought of this thread when seeing this.
A dive bezel on a jump hour? Or even the numbered rehaut?
It took me a couple of moments for my mind to comprehend the full glory of that pointlessnessNot a complication, but thought of this thread when seeing this.
A dive bezel on a jump hour? Or even the numbered rehaut?
Wow! Does the bezel also rotate?Not a complication, but thought of this thread when seeing this.
A dive bezel on a jump hour? Or even the numbered rehaut?
I should bloody well hope so, otherwise it’s pointless fitting it, if it doesn’t!
The bezel and the rehaut together work to some degree as a timing device.
But it is pretty unique I'll give it that
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Reminds me of this Aquadive:
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