Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton I've been reflecting on my advice above and wish to widen the target. Everything I wrote still applies, but I would suggest that the OP looks at either : (a) a late 18238 with as good a President 83858 bracelet on it as he can find (as I had first recommended) or (b) a 118238, which must have the later 83208 bracelet fitted to be worth the premium which this will attract over (a). Both models use the same 3155 calibre movement with double quick-set ...