Reply With QuoteMaggot - the new PC version I’m afraid.
Was listening to Absolute Radio today, Fairy Tale of New York comes on and I am sure that the word faggot in the line “You cheap lousy faggot” was replaced with another word but as I was singing along I couldn’t be 100% sure.
Anybody else hear, pardon the pun, of this or am I just going mad just in time for Christmas
Maggot - the new PC version I’m afraid.
Do we have to buy Brains Maggots now then?
Oh god......if i can't throw any more on the fire it will be a cold, cold christmas.
Proper zombie food.Originally Posted by Velorum
Do we have to buy Brains Maggots now then?
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Even gay rights groups have actually criticised the muppets complaining about this. I believe the origin of ‘faggot’ has nothing to do with one’s sexuality.
House has been rebranded as "property"
Homosexual has been rebranded as "gay"
Lesbian has mostly been rebranded as "gay" also
It's the way forward................................
Just googled and I really not too sure what to make of it
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a8671161.html
I don’t know one gay person who does support this sort of thing. Mad times.
The author of the lyrics says that he wasn't intending to use the word in an offensive sense, but that, given how the meaning of the word he was thinking of back then has been lost, he has no problem with people now removing the word.
Of course, royalties and all that......
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
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Worth a quick read to shed some light on the intended meaning of the term:
https://www.nme.com/news/music/some-...w-york-2417374
I heard it on C Evans this morning defo said faggot, so not banned on Radio 2
Royalties on Slade’s “Merry Christmas” earns two of the band - £180k each year between them, so would expect the Pogues’ to be a similar amount.
Nice retirement plan
Dire Straits changed the word in Money for Nothing years ago.
I think these are band driven changes, nothing to do with bans.
Worlds going mad, people moaning about Father Christmas...Father for god's sake.
Outrageous to lump these in together...it's all about the LGBTQQIP2SAA don't you know.
FTFY
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Gammon thread.
'Gammon' not banned then?
Radio 1 dubbed the word out of that song a few years ago.
There was a massive outcry about it and they relented and ever since have always played the full & original version.
I was listening to my local BBC station on the drive home tonight & they played the full original uncensored version also, so I guess that will be the same across all BBC channels.
If Absolute Radio ARE censoring the word out they are being unnecessarily prudish & behind the times...
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Or - Ahead of the times?
I think society in general is becoming more tolerant.
I certainly don't think it's Absolute Radios job to sensor what we as grown adults are and aren't allowed to listen to.
And before anyone jumps in and says "what if there's children listening..?"
Well, I'm sorry but that word wouldn't mean a thing to a child and would go straight over their heads so is a mute point.
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Absolute madness, lyrics should be accepted in the context at the time they were written. I didn’t know the origins of the word faggot, but based on its original meaning its used correctly in the song. I don’t condone its use as a dergatory homophobic insult, but clearly that was never the intention in this song.
Snowflake attitude and political correctness is invading all aspects of life and culture in 2018........as folks in the North would say, ‘stop being so soft’. I’m sure there’s a good reason why we can’t say that any more in 2018 too!
We could go on forever re-writing old song lyrics to make the music less offensive to those who are easily offended.
Still faggot on Heart.
Best bit of the song IMO.
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Its LGB
The rest can GTFO.
Is the LGB GTFO the latest limited edition Ferrari?
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Martin Prince:Individually we are weak, like a single twig. But as a bundle, we form a mighty faggot.
It's not just this song it's the Christmas song 'baby it's cold outside ' which the snowflake crowd have penned it as some kind of date rape promotion.
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Lunatics are taking over the asylum.
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I think that's persons with mental health problems...
Not an asylum neither it's psychiatric hospital
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I don't think the BBC are quite as precious as some like to make out.
Tonight on Porridge, we had "He's making a fortune selling mistletoe to the poofters!"
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Chortle!Do we have to buy Brains Maggots now then?
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Doubt they replaced faggot with maggot as it wouldn’t work, too repetetive.
You scumbag, you maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
If you don’t like the lyrics switch off.
Louis CK's take on it -NSFW
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Ronan Keating released a cover version once upon a time where the contentious line was replaced by "you're cheap and you're haggard". If you search for it online you'll find a live performance, but I'd advise against it unless you've got a masochistic streak.
We should resist and stand up against this PC fascism.
The lyrics of the song are the lyrics of the song, if you don't like it don't listen to it.
Another instance of this cultural fascism is the changing of the dog's name in the Dambusters movie to Digger.
The dog's name was a fact, he was a black labrador and he was Wing Commander Guy Gibson's dog, the dog was also the mascot of No. 617 Squadron.
In pubs and clubs at this time of year, towards the end of the evening once a few yards have been drunk, the music moves on and hey presto, on comes Fairy Tale.
And every time of late, the drunken mob mumble along and, when it gets to that line, suddenly the volume of the sing-a-long gets 10 times louder. And bang on 'Faggot' queue all the biggots shout the word and point at the gay person. Either fight or slagging match ensues, or the victim sulks/leaves. Faggot is being used in an offensive context by the crowd, irrespective of the intention of the writer.
That's no way for society to behave. I can quite understand why commercial organisations want less to do with this, so lyric gets changed or song doesn't get played. Times move on and what was acceptable once can become taboo. Same happened with Love Thy Neighbour, early Alf Garnet, the dog 'Nigger', etc.
As an aside, I note the state broadcaster is now bleeping out the word "mongs" in The League of Gentlemen Christmas Special.
Years ago a US politician or official used the word “niggardly” to describe a program that wasn’t proceeding in a timely manner. People lost their s***. Made all the major news. Video interviews with people who were outraged that he would use that word. I recall some news media joined in the fracas without realizing the mistake, or taking the opportunity to educate. I think the news sources that used the occasion to explain the origin and the meaning of the word were in the minority, why, because people’s illiteracy wasn’t the story, the story was OF COURSE that he used a word that sounded like that other infamous word.
I think he eventually had to make some kind of public apology for using the word properly. I thought, “great, we’re a society in which you have to apologize to idiots for using a word they are too lazy to look up in a dictionary.”
“Stupid people.”
I used that word on this forum and the handwringers were out in force.
Sad times.
#metoo: used it to describe Twelvety Abbott iirc and was upbraided by one of our worthy ones.
You think the banning of faggot and Mong is bad? How about replacing every single male DJ or News or Sports presenter with a woman, regardless of how talented on the basis that it is fair to redress the balance. It is making my p*ss boil. I suppose the BBC figure that women are less likely to become kiddy fiddlers like one or two of the 1970s crowd but even so. It becoming blatant sexism in reverse!
EDIT: Thanks Passenger, I actually forgot Dr Who but it doesn't exactly contradict my theory!
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And Dr Who
Seems we don’t disagree about everything then.
I must say I was shocked — shocked, and sickened — to hear that the state broadcaster is not beeping out several bars of That's Why Darkies Were Born during the incidental music of Dad's Army. But then one must remember, this is the same outfit that persisted with such light-entertainment-for-daft-racists formats as The Black And White Minstrel Show and Top Gear long after British society had thankfully moved on.
It's enough to make you want to sport a virtue-signalling "STOP THE BBC" avatar on here, it really is.
My MIL wondered where a Chestnut Stuffing ball she was eating was a Faggot. At which point my 16 year old, gasped and said "you cannot say that".
He has now been re-educated to know that a faggot can be a meat ball made from Pig Offal, a collection of sticks used to make fires (Including those to burn witches, Joan of Arc, etc) as well as an American derogatory term to describe men whose sexual preferences are other men.
We also used the opportunity to educate him on the various uses of the word dyke Vs dike, and that Dick Van Dyke is not a verb
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Not to mention the common use of “fag” to refer to a cigarette. Not connoting any of the sexual innuendo, but I always presumed due to it being like a bundle of wood for burning.
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