29a currently (and it's going nowhere)
Previously an Everest also
29a currently (and it's going nowhere)
Previously an Everest also
How am I the one deceiving myself exactly? In never said they were illegal, just deceiving, so you can take that one right back. I see you keep the whole Omega debacle nice and quiet, so you can understand why I have my reservations with these products. Furthermore, the fact that 'The "Smiths" watches produced by Time Factors are not in any way connected with the "Smiths" watches produced by Smiths Group plc until 1979' does not fill me with confidence.
Hahaha! it wasn't a homage watch to the IDF in any way, I was just relating the orange triangle on the bezel! I'm sure you are proud of your stalking but leave it out in future. Hahaha, take care! (and enjoy your Timefactors 'watches')
EDIT: A Crepas is a real Crepas, A 'Broadarrow' can't say the same for itself, homage watches are irrelevant in this debate
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Almost all of them at one time or another.
Currently: Voyager, Seafire, PRS-82.
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A PRS-14 has just been listed on e-bay if anyone is seriously looking for one.
No guarantees - just saying !!
Leave it out. I'm not a 'moron', just a student who has worked very hard for what he has. I don't 'show off', I save what little money I earn and my watches may not be the flashiest on the forum (i'm not even going to dignify your rudeness by telling you what they are) but I like them and have worked damn hard for them. This is a watch forum, nothing else. Leave me alone.
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
Smiths Radio Room here.
Like you were respectful or dignified when you said "I find Eddie's watches decieving" in a thread designed just for members to show off their TF watches?
Were you just venting or didn't you understand what the thread was about? Either way, on this occasion you have come across as a yawn in a bag.
Which part of this is deceiving?
I have no dog in this fight btw, I have no Smiths watches and I'm unlikely to make a purchase for the foreseeable, I just can't quite figure out what's motivating your vitriol.Originally Posted by The first line of text on the Smiths TF page
So far as I can see, there are two plausible explanations. Either you're an idiot who can't read or you're an idiot seeking your five minutes of infamy for going to the forum of a watch manufacturer and slating their product. Go you!
They are official brands. The man who has them made, sells them and runs and finances this forum bought the rights to use these names. If you have read the threads where these watches were discussed before their design was finalised and they were built than you would understand the ethos behind them. Equally, if you handled any of them you would appreciate the high standard to which they are built, usually at odds with their cost. I can assure you their is no deceit involved with these watches, just a desire to keep some famous names in production for the benefit of those who appreciate such things. To come here on a forum, as I said, financed and run by the person who makes these watches, is at best disingenuous.
F.T.F.A.
PRS5
And a PRS82 arrived this morning
Thinking about a PRS18A for Christmas now
I would urge Tim to read the 170 or so posts on this thread and see how many of those posters are extremely happy with their timefactors watch. I own a PRS-14, which is a homage to the early Omega Seamaster Military issued watches, in the real world a genuine issued Omega Military is a five figure sum watch, the Precista is just over £300.00.
Out of interest, the Smiths Everest is on my wants list - a homage to the vintage Explorer - only £5k or more cheaper.
A Smiths PRS-68 being admired by a scorpionfish:
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"Found out" what exactly? There is no secret in the fact that Eddie bought the rights to use the Smiths name.
I own an Everest and an Everest. I'm totally happy with both of them. There is no way I'd mistake the one for the other. I rather like Eddies Everest as I think I understand the inherent humour behind his naming decision. Plus it's a very good watch for the money. Has to go on leather though, preferably vintage.
Very nice! It looks mint. I had a WTB for one of these a while back but it proved fruitless and I ended up going for a CWC. I’d rather have had both the design of the CWC and the forum connection of the Broadarrow.
Re Tim-master_300’s comments, as magirus has suggested, the essence of the matter for me is that there is no deceit or mis-representation involved.
I have owned three timefactors watches, two bought new, and have been happy in all cases.
So it's safe to say I disagree with Tim's views. I wouldn't have bought the watches I bought if I didn't like what timefactors are all about.
I think though, that it could be argued he's making a fair enough point, but just not expressing it very well.
If his argument is just that he doesn't like homage watches, or zombie brands, then it's fair I think to say this is largely what timefactors do. They do some stuff which doesn't fall into this category, but for the most part it's homage watches, released under defunct brands which Eddie has revived.
I happen to feel this is all done fairly tastefully, and usually produces an interesting watch, which is usually fitting, and deserving of the brand.
It's also all done quite openly and honestly, and for the right reasons, so here, by referring to this principle as deceitful, he is quite clearly way off the mark. For instance, I think Eddie revived the Smiths name to keep a British watchmaking institution alive in some form (and obviously also to sell watches on the nostalgia and the particular cache that brand carries). There is no intention to trick anyone into thinking they are getting a watch made in England by the same people who made the original smiths watches, and the respect shown to the brand means this is more than just a shallow attempt to cash in.
That said, there are some instances where I personally find the brand/watch combination jarring. For instance, the PRS-68. A Seiko homage branded as a smiths doesn't work for me personally. I'd prefer to see the smiths brand reserved for watches which are either homages to watches made by, or in some way linked to the original smiths (prs-29, or Everest for example), or watches which I could see Smiths producing if they were still going today. But that's just my personal preference.
To return to the original purpose of this thread, I've owned a PRS-10, which I bought new, and sold because I decided it was too small. My tastes have since changed in that regard, and I'd happily have that watch back, as I think it is still probably the best G10 money can buy.
I owned a PRS-18Q, which I sold as well. Never bonded with that one, but couldn't fault it for the money.
Currently have a PRS-29a, which I bought quite recently, but I'm loving so far, and can't see going anywhere anytime soon. I think this one, like the PRS-10, is a classic.
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I think you're being very kind. Unless it was a troll, he comes across as ignorant and naive, doesn't realise what he's said, and maybe not even where he said it. His point is only "fair" if you agree with his assertion that "homages" of classical watches no longer made by the original manufacturers are basically fakes designed to deceive people into thinking they are the real thing, and that ownership of the Smiths and Precista brands is somehow, spiritually, "not allowed".
In any case, he's gone, and I doubt he'll come back, as he's dropped his fart in the lift, and got off at just the right floor !
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
I own an Everest on a Toshi, a lovely watch.
I referred three colleagues to Eddie's watches and amongst them they own 4 of his watches.
Looks like Tim is a professional, his IP address even features on Wikipedia.
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Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Tim's a douche.
I had a PRS-5, but sold it and I miss it. I hope to be buying something soon, though. I think it will be an 18A though that won't be until next year.
my first
my second
for which I was amazed at how insanely fast the first lot sold out and I was left watchless untill the next production
my third
which had originally been my first choice at the time, but the plastic crystal had put me off
and then sold it because it just wasn't me
and then my fourth,
which was really what I had been waiting for all this time
so just to sum up:
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