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  1. #5551
    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Found a company that do an aftermarket kit, so will be looking into these.

    https://safer-turn.com
    Oh dear, I can feel my wallet opening again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Oh dear, I can feel my wallet opening again
    It's not your wallet that's opening.

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    Some excellent efforts there on the accessories front...

    Here’s some of mine.... bound to have forgotten some

    Ducati...
    Roland sands fuel cap
    Roland sands frame plugs
    Roland sands oil filler plug
    Roland sands exhaust trim
    Roland sands front sprocket guard
    Different handlebars
    Triumph bar end mirrors
    Translogic quickshifter
    Ducati tail bag
    Zard exhaust and decat.. (due next week)

    Speedmaster
    Black engine cases
    Bobber handlebars
    Machined master cylinder cap
    TEC adjustable levers
    Shark silencers (pee shooter)
    Light weight wheels with bronze spokes (tubeless)
    Black headers
    Brown rider and passenger seats
    Heated grips
    New fuel tank (different colour)
    Passenger seat delete kit
    Shorty front mudgaurd
    Small led indicators (front)
    Multi function rear lights
    Tail tidy
    Triumph leather panniers
    Different gearing (front and rear sprockets)
    Knee pads
    Aluminium engine bolt kit (black)
    Triumph engine emblems upgrade


    Bobber TFC
    TEC decat
    Triumph Forward Controls (all fasteners changed to titanium)
    Triumph headlight bezel
    Triumph master cylinder (CNC) due next week
    Custom seat
    Fuel booster plug
    Aluminium engine bolt kit (gold)
    Different gearing (front and rear sprockets)
    Triumph throttle body emblems upgrade
    Motone radiator guard
    Last edited by Enoch; 17th June 2020 at 12:47.

  4. #5554
    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    It's not your wallet that's opening.
    Ha!

    The wallet (and everything else) is staying shut.

    If it was plug and play then I might be tempted, but as it requires me to cut into the loom I'm going to give it a miss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    Some excellent efforts there on the accessories front...

    Here’s some of mine.... bound to have forgotten some

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    Good effort. Makes me feel quite restrained.

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    I think this is where I am at present:

    Street Twin

    Fox adjustable RSU
    Heated grips
    Luggage rack
    Centre stand
    Drilled chain guard
    Engine guards
    Knee pads
    Tank pad
    Dresser bars
    Flyscreen + kit
    CNC front reservoir
    Bar end mirrors
    Headlight grill

    Street Triple

    Exhaust end-can
    Heated grips
    Tail tidy
    Engine guards
    Passenger grab rails
    Bar end mirrors
    Bobbins
    Sump guard
    Flyscreen
    Brake and clutch levers

    R9T

    Heated grips
    Machined oil filler cap
    Custom black/orange Scrambler seat
    Flyscreen
    Oil cooler guard
    Engine/head covers
    Bar end mirrors
    Front fender extender
    Rear hugger
    Tail tidy
    Fork sliders
    Swing arm license plate holder
    Seat pod
    Headlight grill
    Fork covers
    Rear rack
    Slip-on exhaust
    Brake and clutch levers
    Sidestand extender
    Tank pad set

    A combined cost of thousands of pounds, I imagine (although I may have missed some, there have been so many). i did start keeping a slogger but stopped when it all became too depressing.
    Last edited by learningtofly; 19th June 2020 at 08:01.

  7. #5557
    My RR was year old when I got it & the first owner had added some pretty expensive options

    HP Levers
    HP Rearsets
    Akrapovič end can + carbon hanger.
    Rad grille

    To that I added

    Lightech crash bungs
    R&G Front & Rear spindles
    HP / Gilles chain adjusters
    GB racing clutch & engine casings
    Gripper pads on the tank sides
    Tail tidy + ever so slightly smaller plate
    R&G end can protector
    Better headlight bulbs
    Lithium battery
    Pillion pack (seat / footpegs) - never used.
    Roadlok - disc locking system

    That little lot was another reason not to "upgrade" to the new model.
    Andy

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    These are all the options and extras I’ve added to my 1977 CB750K7:

    Last edited by hhhh; 18th June 2020 at 15:18.

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    Thats more like it !....I might replace the grips on the XR600

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    My memory may be a bit fuzzy too but I believe it had both push to cancel and would cancel itself after a few seconds. I remember more the joys of trying to get it started when cold...
    No your memory is correct, my XS500 Yamaha Of similar if older vintage was proper self cancelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhhh View Post
    This is all the options and extras I’ve added to my 1977 CB750K7:

    Hmmm... are you conveniently ignoring the Haynes manual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Hmmm... are you conveniently ignoring the Haynes manual?
    Not directed at me, but I find a good haynes excellent bed time reading !

    I do like the odd upgrade myself in truth, but tend to stick to better tyres, upgraded suspension, brake pads & braided lines and the like.

    Nothing wrong with a bit of bling

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Hmmm... are you conveniently ignoring the Haynes manual?
    Ahem, that came with the bike (cough).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    No MOT issues on a decat as they don't test bike emissions
    Be aware though that in theory the MOT is meant to test if your exhaust is louder than standard.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-insp...e%20condition.

    "The exhaust system and silencer should be in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the motorcycle is not clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar motorcycle with a standard silencer in average condition"

    I didn't have an issue with my full Akra Ti de-cat system on my R9T when it was tested by my local mechanic who does various bits of work for me.
    Just something to be aware of.

  15. #5565
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetinfloor View Post
    Nothing wrong with a bit of bling
    A bit, maybe, but you`ve got to know when to stop.
    Less is more.
    Some bikes look like they`ve been covered in glue then ridden through the Demon Tweeks showroom....

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    Quote Originally Posted by E_2_Right-Force View Post
    Less is more.
    This....100%

    I have a list of personal 'dont's'.....things that mostly spoil a good looking bike.

    Rule 1: If it slows the bike down, or makes it handle poorly...then it's a no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnabull View Post
    I had a KTM 625SMC Supermoto. No where near as smooth as a triple or four cylinder, and really only suitable for shorter blasts due to the narrow seat. Deffo a contender for the fun hooligan factor though, loved mine for what it was, a wheelie machine !!

    Best thing to do is take an extended test ride if poss on your shortlist, a weekend if you can swing it. A short hop down a local road wont really tell you much, you deffo need a few hours in the saddle to work out whether you will like the bike or not.

    Stuart
    They made three different bikes; the 640 was steet biased, the 660 (IIRC) a little livelier and then the 625 which was the out and out bonkers version. The 625 didn’t have the balance shaft that the other two did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I a n View Post
    Be aware though that in theory the MOT is meant to test if your exhaust is louder than standard.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-insp...e%20condition.

    "The exhaust system and silencer should be in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the motorcycle is not clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar motorcycle with a standard silencer in average condition"

    I didn't have an issue with my full Akra Ti de-cat system on my R9T when it was tested by my local mechanic who does various bits of work for me.
    Just something to be aware of.
    Obviously open to interpretation as this always went straight through the MOT. Vance and Hines Straightshots! (we get a lot of people on horses around here, and always felt obliged to stop and turn it off while they passed!)

    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E_2_Right-Force View Post
    A bit, maybe, but you`ve got to know when to stop.
    Less is more.
    Some bikes look like they`ve been covered in glue then ridden through the Demon Tweeks showroom....
    Not a fan of the purple anodised bolt kits then ?

    All my road bikes have been standard apart from odd stealth fork spring kit and refurbed shock. Not so restrained on my track bike though. This 21 year old firestorm is one of the current crop and apart from consumables is original, bar one item


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    They made three different bikes; the 640 was steet biased, the 660 (IIRC) a little livelier and then the 625 which was the out and out bonkers version. The 625 didn’t have the balance shaft that the other two did!
    Yeah that pretty much sums them up I think Dave, but I always thought the 660 was the real hooning tool. The 625 had different carbing and jetting to the 640 one, dunno about a balancer shaft, it was a big single thumper. I remember giving a fair few sports type bikes a shock on our local silly road, the A49 going south from Warrington, and also around town where the roundabouts came up thick n fast. It was really frightening how powerful the brakes were on it, and with it being so light and flickable it ran rings round a lot of faster bikes. Heres a couple of pics.





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    Quote Originally Posted by E_2_Right-Force View Post
    Less is more.
    Yes.

    I have ordered on my new bike:

    V&H pipes: I really dislike the look of the stock ones. My Striple has had standard since day one, but I knew from the outset if I bought a Speed Twin the standard pipes would have to go. The extra burble/pops is a bonus.
    The fancy brake fluid reservoir thing: The stock one is a really naff plastic thing out of keeping with the rest of the bike, it annoyed me.
    The headlight bezel: For some reason I really like this, every time I have seen a bike with it on I have noticed it.
    The air intake covers: I really prefer black so had to be done.

    I doubt I will change it much after I get it much but we'll see.

    ETA: Not a criticism of those that order loads of extras, just not my thing!
    Last edited by SimonH; 18th June 2020 at 23:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post

    I doubt I will change it much after I get it much but we'll see.
    Yeah, I thought that

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnabull View Post
    Yeah that pretty much sums them up I think Dave, but I always thought the 660 was the real hooning tool. The 625 had different carbing and jetting to the 640 one, dunno about a balancer shaft, it was a big single thumper. I remember giving a fair few sports type bikes a shock on our local silly road, the A49 going south from Warrington, and also around town where the roundabouts came up thick n fast. It was really frightening how powerful the brakes were on it, and with it being so light and flickable it ran rings round a lot of faster bikes. Heres a couple of pics.





    Stuart
    You could be right but I recall thinking it strange that the real mad one had the lower number (the engines were all the same size though, 625cc IIRC).
    I bought a 640 SM after having done a track day at Caldwell on my WR400 Yam in Supemoto trim. Unfortunately I didn’t get on with it and sold it. I really should have given it more time!

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    Track day at Mallory Park on Sunday - really looking forward to that - It will be the first since July last year.

    Just checked the forecast - could be wet in the morning.

    Gratuitous shot from a previous visit

    Andy

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    Gixxer looks to be a great trackday weapon.
    Colour coded Hel lines too! *impressed*
    Have a great day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa View Post
    Gixxer looks to be a great trackday weapon.
    Colour coded Hel lines too! *impressed*
    Have a great day
    It is. Just fast enough for me without being intimidating like a modern 1000. It's got KTek fork internals, a Nitron Race shock & Dymag forged ally wheels so it handles beautifully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Yes.

    I have ordered on my new bike:
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    Nice one👍

    Worth considering the addition of the power socket under the tank.... it’s only £27.50, and will save the day when it comes to plugging in a charger..😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy tims View Post
    It is. Just fast enough for me without being intimidating like a modern 1000. It's got KTek fork internals, a Nitron Race shock & Dymag forged ally wheels so it handles beautifully.
    Great to get back on track - steady as you go!

    I will get a date sorted at Oulton soon - would have done 3 or 4 by now usually.

  29. #5579
    It's a nice overcast day so I thought I'd treat my SDR to its first snow foam:



    I'm not that impressed with the foam (Autoglym Polar Blast) and may stick to SDoc100 in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    I see you’ve got the Halfords chest Enoch.

    I’ve picked up some of their fitted sets on 3 for 2 offers. 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch all in one place is very useful!

    The rest isn’t quite so tidy at the moment!
    Dave... I liked you’re socket set up much more than mine so I’ve copied it.. Trouble was I didn’t have a set of drawers that the modular 1/2” 3/8” and 1/4” sets to fit in, so I bought a 3 drawer cabinet and had a total reorganisation..

    Here’s the results.🤪


























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    Quote Originally Posted by E_2_Right-Force View Post
    A bit, maybe, but you`ve got to know when to stop.
    Less is more.
    Some bikes look like they`ve been covered in glue then ridden through the Demon Tweeks showroom....
    Demon tweeks !
    Reminds me of the days as a kid when I looked longingly through the RipSpeed catalogue they stuck in the middle of various car magazines :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    Dave... I liked you’re socket set up much more than mine so I’ve copied it.. Trouble was I didn’t have a set of drawers that the modular 1/2” 3/8” and 1/4” sets to fit in, so I bought a 3 drawer cabinet and had a total reorganisation..

    Here’s the results.🤪

























    You’re putting me to shame there Enoch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    You’re putting me to shame there Enoch!
    Ha... well that didn’t last long... the set on the right is to tall, so I’ve taken the 4 drawer unit and blue top unit from the right, and swapped them for rage top red unit from the left, so now I have 3 sets of cabinets per side, and I can see what’s in the top unit on both sets....😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    Nice one

    Worth considering the addition of the power socket under the tank.... it’s only £27.50, and will save the day when it comes to plugging in a charger..
    Yep, I think that's a good shout at that price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    Ha... well that didn’t last long... the set on the right is to tall, so I’ve taken the 4 drawer unit and blue top unit from the right, and swapped them for rage top red unit from the left, so now I have 3 sets of cabinets per side, and I can see what’s in the top unit on both sets....
    Andrew have you thought about some 5 mm foam inserts , that would allow you to create shadows for your tools by cutting out the profile.

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    Yes..... but I don’t want to over egg the job🤓🤓🤪

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    Just a reminder. A fantastic photo that should make everyone look twice...

    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Just a reminder. A fantastic photo that should make everyone look twice...
    And should make motorcyclists realise they are hard to see so should slow down and wear hi viz clothing...

    Nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    And should make motorcyclists realise they are hard to see so should slow down and wear hi viz clothing...

    Nah.
    And he has his lights on so he will think every one can see him easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Just a reminder. A fantastic photo that should make everyone look twice...

    This was proven to be photoshopped to make the motorcyclist harder to see and they admitted it in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    This was proven to be photoshopped to make the motorcyclist harder to see and they admitted it in the end.
    Quite possibly. Do you think it affects the validity of the message?
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Quite possibly. Do you think it affects the validity of the message?
    Yes, it does. It ruins their credibility and with it, the message.

    Bikes can be hard to see but most of the time it's down to people not looking at all, not because they looked and didn't see.

    "Think Bike poster was edited ‘to get message across’ | Visordown" https://www.visordown.com/news/gener...s%E2%80%99?amp

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    Interestingly, the article suggests that they removed mist and that they added the junction to change it to a drivers' eye view (the infrerence being that a car is about to pull out).
    Nowhere does that article suggest that the biker was made less visible.
    I think the power of that photo is undiminished by photoshopping.
    The problem is not to do with people who do not look, they are very rare.
    The problem is to do with people who look, but do so with the preconception that they are looking for cars. When they look, their brain ignores a bike because they are not looking for it.
    This image conveys that very well
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Yes, it does. It ruins their credibility and with it, the message.

    Bikes can be hard to see but most of the time it's down to people not looking at all, not because they looked and didn't see.

    "Think Bike poster was edited ‘to get message across’ | Visordown" https://www.visordown.com/news/gener...s%E2%80%99?amp
    Surely the whole point is that the biker is there, but difficult to see. The fact it is photoshopped has no relevance. It could be a painting, the message surely is that drivers should be more careful when pulling out of junctions and bikers (I am one) should make themselves as visible as possible.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    I attended a Bike Safe course run by the local Police ( motorcyclists) last year. They raised the concept that people look for what they expect. Eg a car driver looks for cars, vans buses. A motorcyclist looks for bikes cars etc.

    This has a factual background in that they monitored the eye movements of different drivers at the same junction with cars bikes cyclists etc.

    This led on to the concept of “ how do we then get seen” as its more than driving with lights on and wearing hi vis as the driver “ is not looking for you”

    Also a biker presents a small profile head on and often even if they see you the drivers dont always anticipate Your closing speed correctly.

    They discussed moving to the crown of the road, dipping the front brake as this has the effect of flashing the lights eg increasing visibility in a dynamic way. They also talked about moving within the lane to create a side to side image rather than a Small profile bearing down quickly.

    In summary they repeated , Its “ expected “ the driver of another vehicle Is likely to do the “ unexpected “

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    I attended a Bike Safe course run by the local Police ( motorcyclists) last year. They raised the concept that people look for what they expect. Eg a car driver looks for cars, vans buses. A motorcyclist looks for bikes cars etc.

    This has a factual background in that they monitored the eye movements of different drivers at the same junction with cars bikes cyclists etc.

    This led on to the concept of “ how do we then get seen” as its more than driving with lights on and wearing hi vis as the driver “ is not looking for you”

    Also a biker presents a small profile head on and often even if they see you the drivers dont always anticipate Your closing speed correctly.

    They discussed moving to the crown of the road, dipping the front brake as this has the effect of flashing the lights eg increasing visibility in a dynamic way. They also talked about moving within the lane to create a side to side image rather than a Small profile bearing down quickly.

    In summary they repeated , Its “ expected “ the driver of another vehicle Is likely to do the “ unexpected “
    For those of us who ride regularly in urban environments, this is all too evident, and whilst hi-vis may be a help in some circumstances it's of limited use IMO. The ONLY answer is to ride defensively - out on the twisties life is a little different, but here in the smoke if you don't do it you won't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    For those of us who ride regularly in urban environments, this is all too evident, and whilst hi-vis may be a help in some circumstances it's of limited use IMO. The ONLY answer is to ride defensively - out on the twisties life is a little different, but here in the smoke if you don't do it you won't last long.
    I know I shouldn't get animated at things I see on the Internet, but i do get annoyed at all the videos on YouTube of riders getting really upset where car drivers haven't seen them and have cut them up, when in fact the rider has been nipping through gaps in the traffic, riding far faster then the surrounding vehicles and has typically approached the car in the driver's blind spot which may well have been clear 2 seconds earlier; basically not riding defensively.

    So it becomes the car driver's fault when in truth the biker has snuck up on them at pretty high speed. But of course the biker is apparently entitled to behave like that simply because they have a bike and, more than likely, a race can.

    And of course, 99% of the comments on the video are reinforcing that position.

    There are a couple of famous biking YouTubers that, when you watch them, seem to deliberately ride to catch the drivers out simply to get good footage to stream, and of course their fan base is then baying for the driver's blood.

    Rant over, back to work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    I know I shouldn't get animated at things I see on the Internet, but i do get annoyed at all the videos on YouTube of riders getting really upset where car drivers haven't seen them and have cut them up, when in fact the rider has been nipping through gaps in the traffic, riding far faster then the surrounding vehicles and has typically approached the car in the driver's blind spot which may well have been clear 2 seconds earlier; basically not riding defensively.

    So it becomes the car driver's fault when in truth the biker has snuck up on them at pretty high speed. But of course the biker is apparently entitled to behave like that simply because they have a bike and, more than likely, a race can.

    And of course, 99% of the comments on the video are reinforcing that position.

    There are a couple of famous biking YouTubers that, when you watch them, seem to deliberately ride to catch the drivers out simply to get good footage to stream, and of course their fan base is then baying for the driver's blood.

    Rant over, back to work...
    Absolutely, Ian. The ensuing rants make me laugh - the car drivers are often blameless, actually. As I say, unless you ride defensively it's really just a matter of time. Even then, riding in London requires 100% concentration, 100% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    I attended a Bike Safe course run by the local Police ( motorcyclists) last year. They raised the concept that people look for what they expect. Eg a car driver looks for cars, vans buses. A motorcyclist looks for bikes cars etc.

    This has a factual background in that they monitored the eye movements of different drivers at the same junction with cars bikes cyclists etc.

    This led on to the concept of “ how do we then get seen” as its more than driving with lights on and wearing hi vis as the driver “ is not looking for you”

    Also a biker presents a small profile head on and often even if they see you the drivers dont always anticipate Your closing speed correctly.

    They discussed moving to the crown of the road, dipping the front brake as this has the effect of flashing the lights eg increasing visibility in a dynamic way. They also talked about moving within the lane to create a side to side image rather than a Small profile bearing down quickly.

    In summary they repeated , Its “ expected “ the driver of another vehicle Is likely to do the “ unexpected “
    I have been a victim of "SMIDSY" although in my case the car driver simply failed to look, not to see. There is some science behind many of such "looked-but-failed-to-see (LBFTS)" incidents. This is a short but informative piece (there are others that support the phenomenon of inattentional blindness): https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0105082243.htm
    Last edited by Stanford; 22nd June 2020 at 09:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    There are a couple of famous biking YouTubers that, when you watch them, seem to deliberately ride to catch the drivers out simply to get good footage to stream, and of course their fan base is then baying for the driver's blood.

    Rant over, back to work...
    Seen this many times where a rider will actively accelerate so that they then have to brake, to justify having a rant at another road user.

    Where as just lifting off, would have resulted in absolutely nothing happening... Bonkers way to ride a bike.

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