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    Anyone own a Porsche?

    Hi everyone, I'm thinking of biting the bullet and purchasing my first Porsche.

    Most likely a 987 Boxster or a 996 911. It would be on a driveway, not garaged. Occasional use only.

    Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianwong View Post
    Hi everyone, I'm thinking of biting the bullet and purchasing my first Porsche.

    Most likely a 987 Boxster or a 996 911. It would be on a driveway, not garaged. Occasional use only.

    Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?
    Do it. I've got a 987 Boxster S as an occasional car and it gets driven a lot. I don't garage mine, personally, but be aware that if you get an older car that the door seals can wear out which can lead to water ingress that can easily get to the fusebox under the passenger seat. Expensive fix if that happens, so get the seals checked would be my advice.

    Obviously the cost of owning a Porsche isn't particularly low so I'd also suggest finding a good independent if you can.

    FINALLY, there is a UK boxster forum that would be a good place to look into: http://www.boxa.net/forum/

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    I'm on my third P-car. I ran a 997 C2S for four years, followed by a 981 Cayman 2.7, and I currently drive a 981 Cayman GTS. These were all ungaraged daily drivers, but since I quit work in June the CGTS does not get very much use. A mate has a 996 C4S which I've driven, and I've had a few good drives in a couple of Cayman 987s.

    All have been reasonably reliable and are less expensive to run than you might imagine because of low depreciation. They are very rewarding to drive. I think the Cayman/Boxster cars handle better than the 911 does because of the mid-engine chassis, and they are all plenty fast enough for UK roads. I would avoid the earlier automatics - to my mind they have no place in a sports car - but having said that the PDK is one of the best autos out there. However, PDK came after the 996/987 which had the unloved tiptronic box. Just get a manual. I would choose a 987 Cayman over a 996. Test drive them and see what you prefer.


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    If you're thinking about it then do it. Out of your choice I'd go for the 987 simply because I think the 996's headlights look awful and it would spoil my enjoyment of the car! However the 996 is the car that saved Porsche and is a fantastic drive (and is a 911) but the 987 isn't far if any behind with an arguably a more up to date interior. Neither are cheap to run but neither are as expensive as you'd think especially if you use a good indie or are capable of doing some of the spannerwork yourself.

    Be aware of the problems that can occur with these older Porsches, in particular the M96/M97 engines IMS bearing and bore scoring issues, however buy a car that has been looked after properly and warmed up properly before any spirited driving and you shouldn't have any issues. Alternatively buy a Hartech engined car but that comes at a premium! A pre purchase inspection including a borescope report is really a must with these older models from someone who knows these cars.

    I have a 997.1 3.8 CS2 as my daily driver, it's not garaged but it is well looked after and I love it!

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    Great advice chaps, thank you very much. What has been your experience of maintenance bills per year, on avg?

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    You could also consider a classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K300 View Post
    You could also consider a classic.
    Beautiful car, but probably can't justify a 928. Loving the fact your number plate matches your tzuk login ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianwong View Post
    Beautiful car, but probably can't justify a 928. Loving the fact your number plate matches your tzuk login ...
    That’s not a 928. It looks like a 968CS.

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    Ah, shows what I know ...

    Quote Originally Posted by jaytip View Post
    That’s not a 928. It looks like a 968CS.

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    I have a 996 C4S, have had it 5 years. I use it every day without fail. Snow, Ice or Sun. Its just clicked round to 111111 the local independent who looks after it say that because it is used daily and I make sure the engine is sufficiently warmed up prior to revving it excessively I am far less likely to experience any of the issues that some of the 3.6 engines have. I spent £7k last year on a Major service, discs, pads, exhausts, clutch, suspension overhaul brake lines. Next year I'll get some paintwork down on it. Overall its a fantastic car and it puts a smile on my face every time I sit in it and start the engine.

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    It is a 968 Coupe(leather seats and all the electrics) with CS suspension and M030 anti roll bars.
    Engine bay after a bit of fettling.

    A 968 will cost you a lot less to maintain and most of the parts are easy to get to so a lot of it can be DIY if you're so inclined.

    As well as other Porsche I've had 4 968s up to now, this is my latest, it's a 968 Sport, basically a Club Sport with some electrics and comfort seats added in.


    They're all the same underneath so easy to work on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianwong View Post
    Great advice chaps, thank you very much. What has been your experience of maintenance bills per year, on avg?
    996 carerra 4s - bills for the year - zero - they don't go wrong - had it for 18months - nothing to spend on it - daily driver

    should you need tyres - very cheap if shop around

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    What are thoughts on the 996 Turbo?

    I’ve thought about chopping my M6 in for one before values go out of reach.

    If I did it would be garaged in a climate controlled environment but probably see some use on salted roads all year round.

    I’ve seen nice ones around the £35k mark but that puts them in direct competition with nice V8 R8s which is also an itch I’d like to scratch...

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    Go for a well priced 911 C4S and you shouldn’t lose too much money.

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    Porsche 911 964 owner here.

    Maintenance costs are dependant upon mileage and who is maintaining it. The lower the mileage the lower the costs - simply because things don't need doing. As for who doing it. I use an Independant Porsche specialist. If i took mine to a Porsche AD, then the costs would be eye watering, plus they might actually struggle to maintain a 30 year old car.

    They are truly great cars, but before you buy make sure you get it fully inspected by an Independant Porsche Specialist. It's also worth reading up on the model and doing your home work. For example the 996 is a nice car, however it comes with different engines - a 3.4 and a 3.6. The 3.6 came in two flavours depending on whether it was normally aspirated or Turbo charged. The 3.6 used in the Turbo is pretty bullet proof where as the 3.4 and normal 3.6 isn't. Both suffered from problems linked to the RMS.

    Personally if I were in the market for another 911 I would look at the 997. Failing that a 6 cylinder Cayman. Both are wonderful cars, but my preference remains with the aircooled cars.

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    I've a 996 turbo, which was my midlife crisis car & I love. The headlights are a sore point but it's proven very reliable.

    for a starter I'd suggest the Cayman or Boxster; everytime I've had one a loan car i've really enjoyed it. Manual is also better on the earlier cars; pre PDK

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianwong View Post
    What has been your experience of maintenance bills per year, on avg?
    I had a 987 Boxster S. I bought it at 6 years old with 37,500 miles and sold it after 5 years with 50,000 miles on it. I paid £18,000 for it from an independant dealer and sold it privately 18 months ago for £13,500. Servicing is every two years, a major then a minor. On average the service bills were around £1,000 every other year as there were little niggles to sort out (stones puncturing aircon radiator as an example).

    On average then £900 a year depreciation and £500 a year servicing. I put new tyres on it soon after I bought it as the Michelins were getting old. They lasted until I sold it.

    Missed it so much, I went and bought a 2014 981S this year from a Porsche main dealer. It had less than 20,000 on the clock and I love it. Still gets driven in the winter (though probably not the snow as the ground clearance is low and tyres too fat!). The 981 was last of the 6 cylinders. I borrowed a new Cayman GTS (4 cyl) whilst mine was being serviced but didn't like it. There is certainly something nice about an unaspirated 6 cylinder and as they say, there is no replacement for displacement.

    Highly recommended as a reliable fun car. With the engine in the correct place (though I want to add a 993 to the collection next year).

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    unaspirated 6 cylinder
    do you mean normally aspirated rather than turbo charged?

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    Anyone own a Porsche?

    I have had my 2011 987.2 cayman s for about two years now as a weekend car. Bought from a friend who wasn’t as obsessive as I am so it had a £3k bill upon my purchase for new discs and pads, oils etc. Have to say, it’s been faultless, pdk box is superb and the car makes me smile every time I drive it. Plenty fast for me, great noise, still turns heads. I paid £25k all in including the service and autotrader reckons it’s worth £23500 (without all of my options which are many and are all the desirable ones). So worse ways it’s cost me £750 a year in depreciation..I’ve lost more on “regular” cars...

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    I had "ours" since 1989, bought new - therefore 30 years ago

    My daughter used it as her "wedding" car

    now past onto my son


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    Ran a 993C2s for 5 years back in 2004 and put 30k miles on it, sold it at a paper profit but the yearly upkeep costs ranged from 2k - 4k to keep the thing completely sorted. Loved it mind you, the air-cooled Porsches are quite unique to drive and get under your skin. Price of entry has been a bit silly in recent years and they are getting old now.

    If I was looking now I think the 997 Gen 2 is a decent shout, early engine issues resolved and manual gearbox, classic styling and not too bloated.

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    I had a 987 Boxster and really enjoyed it, but was ruined when I was given a new Cayman S for a few days as a loan car - the bigger engine made a huge amount of difference.

    Now have the 991 2S which is the last of the 3.8L naturally aspirated engines and it is fantastic. Owned for just over two years and although a chunky bill to service and extend the warranty, no other bills since buying it - I don’t think I would own one without a warranty, unless I went for an older model and had a good local independent


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    I'm on my third. Had a 944s for a couple of years a 944 turbo, which I still have and I had a 996 turbo for a year.
    The 944t has been to the moon and back but it's a nice drive and very usable daily which I frequently do. I'm just starting to feel its a bit old for daily winter duty.


    I'm going to be a bit controversial and say I didn't really get on with the 996t. Mine was cobalt blue with sports techno wheels; it looked amazing and with a mild Manthey remap went like the proverbial but it wasn't really very practical and I was trying to keep it lovely which is hard and actually still use it. The alarm drove me mad and I was terrified of the carbon ceramic brakes or rather anything damaging them. At the time they were something stupid like £4k a corner for discs, pads were better. I gather the situation has improved a little here.
    I don't travel a great deal so there were no one up trips to use it on so it didn't work for me. I just wouldn't use a car as a weekend toy as I simply don't have time so anything has to work as a daily however infrequent that may be. I sold it for the same as I paid (£25k, those were the days) so it was worth doing but I felt really disappointed the day I let it go but actually didn't miss it.


    In some ways I'd like a gen 2 997 targa 4s pdk (you can get in the back from the back in a targa which was one of my gripes) but realistically these are still £40k and I think I'd buy other things first.
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    I am on my second. Not many Cayman R’s about so hoping it holds its value




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    I have a 996 Carerra with factory sports suspension. Had it for about 3 years and whilst it has cost around £5k in repairs I have no regrets. A reliable and comfortable drive for everyday use and more than enough oomph to make it interesting when the mood takes me. The tiptronic gearbox is excellent although there is almost as much snobbery around this as there is with the headlights. The 996 is a fantastic and underrated Porsche.

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    2020 the year I was going to get a Porsche finally with endowment payout.

    But getting Divorced instead, so Porsche will have to wait but Happy Days.

    Great Cars chaps.

    Might get a porch instead to store my wellies in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    I had "ours" since 1989, bought new - therefore 30 years ago

    My daughter used it as her "wedding" car

    now past onto my son

    Now that is a epic looking car

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    Of the options you've given I'd go for a 987 gen 2. Personally I'd go with the non S version because the 2.9 is a lovely zippy engine. It's a big step up from the 2.7 in the gen 1.

    The S is fine, albeit bore scoring is not uncommon on the Gen 1 but the Gen 2 seems solid. I've got a 981 S at the minute and it's probably a bit too quick, so I'm considering going back to a Base model.

    The other advantage of the gen 2, other than engine, is the interior is quite a bit nicer, than the gen 1, which in turn was a bug step up from the 986.

    The interior is the thing that lets the 9X6 cars down for me; they're not characterful enough to feel like a classic a la 993 but they're not nice enough to feel modern like a 9X7.2. They're just a bit grim.

    If you do go 996, go basic and go early. 3.4, dual row IMS and a throttle cable for the money, they're the best drivers cars.

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    These are wonderful. Very rarely see them except, weirdly, on my commute in central London, there's a filthy white one that lives on the street with a Strasse sticker on the back.
    Quote Originally Posted by deejay View Post
    I am on my second. Not many Cayman R’s about so hoping it holds its value




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    Sorry, missed the part about main ensure costs. Realistically, if you want to look after it properly, budget £1,200 a year. A good year, you only need a minor service for about 250 at an independent, in a bad year, you might need discs and pads all around or a new part. This year, I've had a minor service and a new alternator on my 981. Total cost was £1,100 at a good independent.

    Worst year I had came to just over £2,000 buy that did include completely optional cosmetic bits like a wheel refurbishment.

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    I've often thought of Porsche as the 'Mexican food' of cars - namely that it doesn't matter what you order as the same thing turns up with a trivial difference.

    I'm sure they are amazing cars but they look too samey to me. That being said owners seem to love them, they are reliable as well as not too hideously expensive to run so go for it.

    Of the ones I've seen theres a chap in my residential car park with a GT3 version and that looks cool so get one of those. No idea what cost is but I figure they are all similarly priced.

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    On my 4th 'porker' at the moment. This time around went for the 997.2 PDK.
    Previousy did have a 996 turbo. They are very quick, but like some of the comments above - the headlights were just awful and I never did get used to them!
    It depends what your personality is like...if I bought a 996 or earlier 997 I would always worry about the engine issues. I did own a 996 C4S many years ago. Really beautiful looking car, true wide body and if you do get one with the sports exhaust - the sound is awesome. However, I had some engine issues on mine and moved it on soon after I had those resolved.

    Definitely do your research...you buy wrong and you could end up with big bills. I would certainly recommend buying from a renowned specialist, or private with a Porsche warranty.

    Regarding Ryan's comment above about the GT3...yes it does look cool. It is a track biased car and the buying process for one of those is a bit more involved - you need an inspection for sure to check for over-revs, accident damage, etc. 997 GT3 start at about 60k for Gen 1. 991 and you can creep up to 100k. You want a brand new GT3??? Well surprise surprise it is a Rolex game, and you will be buying other cars you don't want or you will be paying OVER list!! HAHA!

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    Very helpful Ryan, buy the pretty one with the spoiler which costs 3 times as much lol.

    If the budget stands it, I would take a 997.1 or 987 over a 996 because the interior is so much nicer and the headlights not so challenging. Don't kid yourself on the bills. Even routine stuff is expensive, anything out of routine surprisingly so. Cooling system issues such as pipes, rads or condensers can cost thousands for things which on a more mundane vehicle would cost hundreds. Brakes too.

    The engine issues are well documented but unless your budget is £30k+ its a risk you may have to take since all the water cooled stuff up until the 997.2 or 987.2 share the same problems. A case has been made that the 3.4 and 3.6 flavours are less at risk of bore scoring than the 3.8S engine and the IMS risk can be mitigated fairy easily on all of them. It seems the one to really avoid is the 3.8S tiptronic, as that labours the engine by pulling away in 2nd so it most at risk of scoring. Obviously a car with a rebuilt engine is much more preferable from this POV but that will add maybe £5-10k to the buy price so again may be out of reach. If you can afford a Mezger engine turbo car then some of the engine issues go away, but maintenance will still be costly and in the case of the 996 the awkward interior might still grate

    For many of the reasons I stated above I have run a 3.6l 997.1 for the past few years with no disasters, it's cost on average around £700 per year in maintenance and another ~£700 in tax and insurance but since I use it so infrequently the price per mile must be nasty.

    One thing I would add is that while the current offerings are like rocket ships, the cars from 10-20 years ago just aren't all that quick in comparison, particularly the smaller engined Boxsters. Even a 911 C2S 997.1 is only really on a par with a BMW M140i so don't buy one for the poke, buy it for the clever (or bloody minded) engineering and handling feel. The turbos and GT3 cars are a different matter, but then so is the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianwong View Post
    Hi everyone, I'm thinking of biting the bullet and purchasing my first Porsche.

    Most likely a 987 Boxster or a 996 911. It would be on a driveway, not garaged. Occasional use only.

    Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?
    Do your research properly especially on the 996 as these had known IMS and bore-scoring issues. A quick Google search will support you here. IMS bearing kits can be retro-fitted and bore-scoring checked with a bora scope by someone who knows what they’re doing.

    The 996 is an absolutely cracking buy at the moment and I genuinely believe that at some point they will be the next model to make a profit on. The Turbo (£40k minimum) is the car to have but for the money a C4S or Targa look lovely. Any model is good though.

    Maintenance will all depend on how the owner looked after it, this could be £250 for a service and MOT or thousands for a clutch, tyres etc...

    Whatever you buy make sure it’s an un-modified example from an enthusiast with heaps of paperwork, showing servicing done at the correct intervals, and you should be OK. Do NOT take your car to an OPC as they will rinse you of all your hard-earned. Find a reputable specialist nearby.

    Pistonheads, YouTube and the Porsche forums are your friends.

    I bought a 981 Cayman (ex dealer demo with 1k miles on it) when they first came out and it went back twice under warranty (electric handbrake and screen de-mister) in the three years I had it. Awesome car though and I caught the Porsche bug proper.

    I’ve now got a 997 Carrera S (50k miles) and spent £450 on a water pump + £200 annual service in the last 18months.

    On the flip-side my Porsche 944 S2 (199,540 miles) cost me almost £2k earlier in the year as it needed new suspension, brake hoses, fuel lines, disks & pads. This car is the fcuking business and I think I prefer it to my 911 !!!

    I’m lucky as both of them live in a double-garage which keeps the damp away and allows me to tinker with the 944 during the colder months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    I had "ours" since 1989, bought new - therefore 30 years ago

    My daughter used it as her "wedding" car

    now past onto my son

    Very nice indeed.

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    Anyone own a Porsche?

    Boxster 986 owner, same car for 18 years! 125k miles.

    Been tough as nails. Serviced every year using Autowerke in Norwich.

    Other than consumables (brakes, tyres, suspension) the only parts replaced have been alternator and indicator stalk...




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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I've often thought of Porsche as the 'Mexican food' of cars - namely that it doesn't matter what you order as the same thing turns up with a trivial difference.

    I'm sure they are amazing cars but they look too samey to me. That being said owners seem to love them, they are reliable as well as not too hideously expensive to run so go for it.

    Of the ones I've seen theres a chap in my residential car park with a GT3 version and that looks cool so get one of those. No idea what cost is but I figure they are all similarly priced.

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    I dont really get this.

    Porsche made everything from Tractors to Le Mans and Paris Dakar winning race cars.

    Their range today comprises

    The Boxster and Cayman
    The 911 - which runs from the basic C2 to the unbelievable GT2 RS and GT2 RSR. Also they available as a coupe, convertible and targa.
    The Panamerica - 4 door sports saloon (also available as a hybrid)
    The Cayenne - a very capable SUV (available in Petrol, Diesel and Hybrid) on a par with Range Rover
    The Tayman - all electric 4 door on a par with the Tesla S.

    Now compare this range to other manufacturers offerings.

    Ref the GT3 - it might look like a "standard" 911, but that like saying a Credor/Grand Seiko is just another Seiko

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    Now mine, belonged to the wife since 1985...
    911 SC Targa, when I picked it up, after a major restoration job!




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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I've often thought of Porsche as the 'Mexican food' of cars - namely that it doesn't matter what you order as the same thing turns up with a trivial difference.

    I'm sure they are amazing cars but they look too samey to me. That being said owners seem to love them, they are reliable as well as not too hideously expensive to run so go for it.

    Of the ones I've seen theres a chap in my residential car park with a GT3 version and that looks cool so get one of those. No idea what cost is but I figure they are all similarly priced.

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    Porsche made everything from Tractors to F1, Le Mans and Paris Dakar race cars. The most successful racing manufacturer ever.

    Today their range comprises

    The Boxster (two seater convertible)
    The Cayman (2 seater coupe)
    The 911 - a 2+2 GT available as coupe, convertible and targa.
    The Panamerica - 4 door sports saloon (also available as a hybrid)
    The Cayenne - a very capable 4x4 or 2x4 SUV (available in Petrol, Diesel and Hybrid)
    The Tayman - all electric 4 door on a par with the Tesla S.
    The 918 - an eyeballs out Hyper Car.

    They also make of specials including the track focused GTS, GT3, GT3 RS, GT2, GT2 RS, RSR, Cup, etc, and the very special like the new 935 - yours for just a smige over 700,000 euros.

    But to give you an idea about the GT3. You can get a standard 996 for around £20k - whereas a 996 GT3 starts at around £55k, but it will cost over £70k for a really nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Porsche made everything from Tractors to F1, Le Mans and Paris Dakar race cars. The most successful racing manufacturer ever.

    Today their range comprises

    The Boxster (two seater convertible)
    The Cayman (2 seater coupe)
    The 911 - a 2+2 GT available as coupe, convertible and targa.
    The Panamerica - 4 door sports saloon (also available as a hybrid)
    The Cayenne - a very capable 4x4 or 2x4 SUV (available in Petrol, Diesel and Hybrid)
    The Tayman - all electric 4 door on a par with the Tesla S.
    The 918 - an eyeballs out Hyper Car.

    They also make of specials including the track focused GTS, GT3, GT3 RS, GT2, GT2 RS, RSR, Cup, etc, and the very special like the new 935 - yours for just a smige over 700,000 euros.

    But to give you an idea about the GT3. You can get a standard 996 for around £20k - whereas a 996 GT3 starts at around £55k, but it will cost over £70k for a really nice one.
    Ok I'm no Porsche expert but this is the one in our car park at home and I think it looks cool

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    991 gt3 4l. £100k+ of car maybe. They might all look the same to you but the price tag varies wildly.
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    I am a lifelong Porsche fan, they have a different feel to an other marque, imho anyway.
    Do not overlook the older 4 cylinder stuff as mentioned earlier. My first was a 924s from 1986 IIRC, a great car for the money and easy to maintain using a good specialist Indy.
    After a divorce induced absence I bought a facelift 986 in seal grey. It wasn't stunningly fast but felt glued to the road and looked amazing. Changed after 4 years to a black 987, a nice vehicle but nothing special. Still 2.7 manual but for some reason felt ordinary after the 986. Then my high point of a guards red 987s, 305 bhp. That was an awesome car which always felt totally planted on the road, sounded amazing, and 30+ mpg. I still see it around Belfast now and again and looks in great shape.
    The latter would be my choice of i were buying a "fun" Porsche in the future.
    After 6 years in JLC tackle, the change in style driven by now having 3 children, I picked up a Macan in March this year. My first PDK, and my first turbocharged, Porsche, and I totally love it. Every journey feels special, insure it for 420pa, average 28mpg, but will resent the 450 rfl charge next year. A great all rounder and all the car that anyone could ever need. Unless I have more kids of course.


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    Where’s the best place to buy? I’ve been looking at a Cayman but official cars are very expensive and are all top end but I am a little wary of buying a car like this privately unless I knew the seller of course.

    Who are the good independents and is that the way to go if I am nervous of buying private?

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    Yes this is my ongoing thread https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...57-996-GT3-MK1

    Have owned a fair few and used to work at Porsche place years back, am friends with a fair number of people in the Porsche world, 911Virgin is where I bought mine from and they are absolutely awesome, would highly recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Where’s the best place to buy? I’ve been looking at a Cayman but official cars are very expensive and are all top end but I am a little wary of buying a car like this privately unless I knew the seller of course.

    Who are the good independents and is that the way to go if I am nervous of buying private?
    Have dropped you a PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Where’s the best place to buy? I’ve been looking at a Cayman but official cars are very expensive and are all top end but I am a little wary of buying a car like this privately unless I knew the seller of course.

    Who are the good independents and is that the way to go if I am nervous of buying private?
    Another shout for 911virgin, they have a very good reputation.

    I can recommend Kier at Chappell sports cars, that’s where I bought my 997.1 C4S from which I kept for 3 years.

    They’re not the cheapest but their stock is generally low mileage top quality stuff. Their 2 year warranty covers everything other than the usual items like brake pads etc.

    The clutch on mine went about two weeks after purchase. I rang Kier, he said no problem, car booked in to OPC Solihull straight away.

    They replaced the IMS and RMS bearings at the same time, all costs covered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Where’s the best place to buy? I’ve been looking at a Cayman but official cars are very expensive and are all top end but I am a little wary of buying a car like this privately unless I knew the seller of course.

    Who are the good independents and is that the way to go if I am nervous of buying private?
    Head to RSJ or 911Virgin.

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    Hi, would love some guidance on great indy dealers too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Where’s the best place to buy? I’ve been looking at a Cayman but official cars are very expensive and are all top end but I am a little wary of buying a car like this privately unless I knew the seller of course.

    Who are the good independents and is that the way to go if I am nervous of buying private?
    I too bought a Cayman, 981 GTS, for my first Porsche and it did take a reasonable length of time before I found the one I wanted. It was at an OPC so it came with a Porsche 2 year warranty which personally I wouldn't be without, given the relatively low cost, and it's already proved its worth as the air-conditioning condensers were damaged and replaced without charge which saved me over £1K.

    Winter is a good time to buy so enjoy the search.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mactrack View Post
    I too bought a Cayman, 981 GTS, for my first Porsche and it did take a reasonable length of time before I found the one I wanted. It was at an OPC so it came with a Porsche 2 year warranty which personally I wouldn't be without, given the relatively low cost, and it's already proved its worth as the air-conditioning condensers were damaged and replaced without charge which saved me over £1K.

    Winter is a good time to buy so enjoy the search.


    That’s stunning

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