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    I am unsure about getting Eldenring - everyone raves about it, but I get the impression it is one impossible boss after another. I really enjoyed Witcher 3 - played it twice on Normal, but I prefer a fairly easy ride when playing, and definitely don’t like grinding through really frustrating boss fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatters View Post
    I am unsure about getting Eldenring - everyone raves about it, but I get the impression it is one impossible boss after another. I really enjoyed Witcher 3 - played it twice on Normal, but I prefer a fairly easy ride when playing, and definitely don’t like grinding through really frustrating boss fights.
    No it is fantastic. It does have hard bosses but you can level up by doing quests elsewhere and come back to it. At no stage do you get 'stuck'. IMHO it is a far superior game to God of War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatters View Post
    I am unsure about getting Eldenring - everyone raves about it, but I get the impression it is one impossible boss after another. I really enjoyed Witcher 3 - played it twice on Normal, but I prefer a fairly easy ride when playing, and definitely don’t like grinding through really frustrating boss fights.
    I agree with Ryan that it’s fantastic, but IMO even regular combat is tough and unforgiving. I can’t recommend buying it to anyone wishing a fairly easy ride. I play most games on hardest settings comfortably and Elden Ring is one of those rare games where I struggle. I have very little experience with this type of game though.

    I’d say try to find a way to try it before you buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Possu View Post
    I agree with Ryan that it’s fantastic, but IMO even regular combat is tough and unforgiving. I can’t recommend buying it to anyone wishing a fairly easy ride. I play most games on hardest settings comfortably and Elden Ring is one of those rare games where I struggle. I have very little experience with this type of game though.

    I’d say try to find a way to try it before you buy it.
    I’m torn on this. I found it pretty brutal, but less so as you progress and get the hang of it - and thereafter it’s very rewarding and enjoyable; I had to grind some of the bosses and got a bit fed up but the sense of achievement is enormous when you finally beat one. I confess that I still haven’t beaten the final boss, I got distracted by Returnal which is brutal in its own way…

    I was undecided whether to try it or not based on my experience with Demons Souls games, but I’m very glad I did. Oh and don’t be shy about using online guides, some of the stuff is so obscure and opaque that there’s no way I would have figured it out.

    For context, I loved Witcher 3 (just about to replay with PS5 update) and hated all the Demon Souls games (way too hard).

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    Is anyone else playing Eve online? I discovered it about three months ago and I am thoroughly enjoying it, albeit I am about ten years behind the curve. For those that don’t know it, it is an absolutely vast space based MMO which is highly addictive and free to play as an Alpha for as long as you want but which also has additional levels of gameplay for Omega subscription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmarchitect View Post
    Is anyone else playing Eve online? I discovered it about three months ago and I am thoroughly enjoying it, albeit I am about ten years behind the curve. For those that don’t know it, it is an absolutely vast space based MMO which is highly addictive and free to play as an Alpha for as long as you want but which also has additional levels of gameplay for Omega subscription.
    Played it on and off for around 4 years going back to about 2005 - I still have the physical boxed disc copy I bought when it was available back then.
    It's hugely complex and definitely better if played with other people. I did find that it seemed to be ruled by two or three giant corporations (Goonswarm, Band of Brothers et al) to the point where it was rumoured they were actually influencing the devs.
    It's worth seeking out the YouTube videos of Rooks and Kings. Brilliant illustration of a small group developing fantastic doctrines to take on the big guys and win. I occasionally go back and watch the videos simply for the entertainment value as they are incredibly well made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatters View Post
    I am unsure about getting Eldenring - everyone raves about it, but I get the impression it is one impossible boss after another. I really enjoyed Witcher 3 - played it twice on Normal, but I prefer a fairly easy ride when playing, and definitely don’t like grinding through really frustrating boss fights.
    For context, I absolutely HATED Elden Ring, as I have with all of the ‘Souls’ games. I just don’t get them. The combat is clunky, the enemies are artificially difficult, the losses at death are punishing and the stories are always incomprehensible. Utter tosh.

    I do, of course, understand I’m in the minority. It’s won far too many accolades for my opinion to matter against the masses.

    It’s not that I don’t enjoy a hard game either, I love a challenge. My GOTY this year (by far) was SIFU, most complain about it’s difficulty but I’ve finished it multiple times on all difficulties and absolutely adore it.

    And I still hate all the ‘Souls’ style games. Sekiro was the only one that stood out, I finished that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickChard View Post
    For context, I absolutely HATED Elden Ring, as I have with all of the ‘Souls’ games. I just don’t get them. The combat is clunky, the enemies are artificially difficult, the losses at death are punishing and the stories are always incomprehensible. Utter tosh.

    I do, of course, understand I’m in the minority. It’s won far too many accolades for my opinion to matter against the masses.

    It’s not that I don’t enjoy a hard game either, I love a challenge. My GOTY this year (by far) was SIFU, most complain about it’s difficulty but I’ve finished it multiple times on all difficulties and absolutely adore it.

    And I still hate all the ‘Souls’ style games. Sekiro was the only one that stood out, I finished that.
    Haha - yes I get that response. That is exactly how I have felt with all Souls games… except Elden Ring. There is an initial barrier of difficulty and obscurity but it’s worth getting past that. And it’s accessible compared to other Souls games IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack83 View Post
    Haha - yes I get that response. That is exactly how I have felt with all Souls games… except Elden Ring. There is an initial barrier of difficulty and obscurity but it’s worth getting past that. And it’s accessible compared to other Souls games IMO.
    Yeah I must admit the first time early in Elden Ring when you get to the gates of Stormveil Castle and have to face Magrit the Fell Omen when you are level 5 or whatever and get utterly obliterated over and over until you realise that boss is there to make sure you are the correct level to take on the dungeon and so you must go and do other stuff elsewhere and level up. Took a good 25 hours of play before I was ever ready to beat Magrit who you would meet only 1.5 hours into the game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatters View Post
    I am unsure about getting Eldenring - everyone raves about it, but I get the impression it is one impossible boss after another. I really enjoyed Witcher 3 - played it twice on Normal, but I prefer a fairly easy ride when playing, and definitely don’t like grinding through really frustrating boss fights.
    It is really good, I played it alot, finished it 5-6 times using different builds.

    Word of warning, the learning curve is hard and youtube is your friend! The first few hours you will die a lot and I mean a lot, some of the quests are very good but some parts I had to youtube as no idea how you could figure them out.

    PS. when you first start avoid the mini boss on the horse its impossible at your starting level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    It is really good, I played it alot, finished it 5-6 times using different builds.

    Word of warning, the learning curve is hard and youtube is your friend! The first few hours you will die a lot and I mean a lot, some of the quests are very good but some parts I had to youtube as no idea how you could figure them out.

    PS. when you first start avoid the mini boss on the horse its impossible at your starting level.


    This is something that irks me though - you shouldn't have to YouTube things to figure stuff out. The game should guide the player enough that nothing is inexplicable. I just couldn't 'get' the hype around it. I played a good few hours, killed plenty of people but then I (because the game gives you NO indication of what direction to go in) came across a normal looking enemy who just one-shotted me. Hours lost. Rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickChard View Post
    This is something that irks me though - you shouldn't have to YouTube things to figure stuff out. The game should guide the player enough that nothing is inexplicable. I just couldn't 'get' the hype around it. I played a good few hours, killed plenty of people but then I (because the game gives you NO indication of what direction to go in) came across a normal looking enemy who just one-shotted me. Hours lost. Rubbish.
    Yes it is very frustrating. You do have a rough direction with the grace points but that is just the main quest line not all the side quests, which are the bests part. The Rani questline is a good example, really good but at some points without youtube it would be impossible, I have no idea how the youtubers figure out some of the quest lines.

    At the heart of it, the game is very hard, the Melania fight for example is very difficult as is the Godfrey fight before the final boss.

    I lost interest months ago, but will play once they release some DLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    Yes it is very frustrating. You do have a rough direction with the grace points but that is just the main quest line not all the side quests, which are the bests part. The Rani questline is a good example, really good but at some points without youtube it would be impossible, I have no idea how the youtubers figure out some of the quest lines.

    At the heart of it, the game is very hard, the Melania fight for example is very difficult as is the Godfrey fight before the final boss.

    I lost interest months ago, but will play once they release some DLC.
    Melania is an absolute b#### of an opponent. The fact you have to beat a boss just to face her, then she's all kinds of levels of ninja good. And then you think you've beaten her but no that's just halfway, and then there's a 'but this isn't even my final form' moment. Arrgghhhh. Tears!

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