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    Just playing around with a couple of ideas



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    Your playing round looks to have come up with something interesting, from little acorns and all that.

    Version B looks very interesting indeed

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    Version B please

    Looks the mutt's nuts!

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    Intresting looking watch.
    I would be intrested in either version but I prefer the bi-compax version.

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    Yep, either of those please.

    On a related note when do you expect the have the auto version of the 40 available?

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    I'd be at the front of an orderly queue for either of those.

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    Another vote for B.
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    Very interesting, I bought the PRS40 because I was very keen on the shape, place of the crown and angles in the case.

    Will there be enough space on top to make room for decent sized pushers?
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    B for me.

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    I prefer the bi-compax as the tri fills out the dial too much for me.

    Both look nice though.

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    I would be very interested by the Version B. I like the proportions, the dial is well balanced.

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    +1 for B here.

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    I think if you could find a quartz movement with centre seconds chrono that would be great. Subdials seem to contradict the simplicity of the case design.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Would the 251.262 fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    I think if you could find a quartz movement with centre seconds chrono that would be great. Subdials seem to contradict the simplicity of the case design.
    I like the idea of a central hand chrono a lot!

    Does something like this help the readability on the current design?


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    It certainly does, fingerlicking good :)
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    Looks good. Version B I reckon.

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    Looking good. Personally B option would be my choice!


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    Neither. Too much frontage for too little dial. Also, not in the market for a Chrono. I like that the crown isn't in the normal positions though.

    The effort is to be applauded, but I will probably be in a minority of one again!

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    Version B but with plain round hour plots, I reckon. The additional batons on the plots make the dial look too busy.

    Last edited by learningtofly; 12th September 2018 at 16:16.

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    ^^^ Good shout from Tony!

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    Version B for me feels like there is something missing on Verizon A


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    Version B or Version A with date at "6"

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    No date, just like the PRS40, dial is busy enough as it is.
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    Playing around with the seeds sown by Dave...


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    Bullhead pushers maybe contrasting panda dial

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    If it helps, with a 60 minute sub-dial for the chronograpph, the 1/2 hour hashes for the 12 hour sub-dial can also be removed.



    This is an even cleaner design

    Dave

    ps - I know we all know what you mean Dave, but you surely mean a centre-minute and second chrono, not just a centre second one, which all chronos are.

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    Details, details. I got a C in maths 'o' level.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    Playing around with the seeds sown by Dave...

    Nice OCD, but lose the 'target' and make the little aeroplane thing orange please.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Oh, and I think the lume plot at 12 needs better differentiation. Maybe a contrasting lume colour.
    Last edited by seikopath; 12th September 2018 at 18:14.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    I love the tricompax, I always do, but how about bicompax with a date (on the larger side for those of us beyond 50) at 6.

    Conversely I also love the mission timer approach (though even the EZM1 has a date).

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    If we're using UG terminology, that's a Uni-Compax and a Compax in the OP. They both look a bit busy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy67 View Post
    I love the tricompax, I always do, but how about bicompax with a date (on the larger side for those of us beyond 50) at 6.

    Conversely I also love the mission timer approach (though even the EZM1 has a date).
    Because it's a bullhead, it would need a custom date wheel printing and because of the size of the movement, the date would sit too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Version B but with plain round hour plots, I reckon. The additional batons on the plots make the dial look too busy.

    I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Nice OCD, but lose the 'target' and make the little aeroplane thing orange please.
    A quick and dirty with Dave's suggestions.


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    I really like the centre minutes chrono layout. So much easier to read at a glance. The only thing that would improve on it for me would be the addition of an hour sub-dial as often a max 60 mins recording period is too short.


    Something like this hash up below based on Oliver's image (with advance apologies for my dire paint skills)


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    I really like the centre minutes chrono layout. So much easier to read at a glance. The only thing that would improve on it for me would be the addition of an hour sub-dial as often a max 60 mins recording period is too short.


    Something like this hash up below based on Oliver's image (with advance apologies for my dire paint skills)

    I'd buy that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff View Post
    I really like the centre minutes chrono layout. So much easier to read at a glance. The only thing that would improve on it for me would be the addition of an hour sub-dial as often a max 60 mins recording period is too short.


    Something like this hash up below based on Oliver's image (with advance apologies for my dire paint skills)

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    Eddie has steadfastly resisted a mission timer so far, but I like it.
    Perhaps the chrono-second needs to match the chrono-minute a bit better?? Black hand, orange tip perhaps??
    The white hand now jars a bit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


    Eddie
    Like these a lot. I agree that the plain round hour markers help make the dial look less busy.

    Looking forward to see how this progresses.

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    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onespeed View Post
    Like these a lot. I agree that the plain round hour markers help make the dial look less busy.

    Looking forward to see how this progresses.
    For what it is worth (nothing most likely), I don't see a great deal wrong with Eddie's original renders, including the presence of the lines on the hour markers which I think add a great deal of distinctiveness to the dial design. I would suggest that he would be well served ignoring every suggestion for tweakerage (except mine of course, which is not a suggestion to tweak but rather not to tweak!).

    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    Looks good. Prefer the 3 dial version - version A / VK67. Was Version A actually Version B originally?

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    Contrasting grey sub dials perfect choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Contrasting grey sub dials perfect choice
    Not for me. I prefer the cleaner aesthetics (to me) of the all black dial, but I get that the grey sub dials are more legible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Eddie has steadfastly resisted a mission timer so far, but I like it.
    Perhaps the chrono-second needs to match the chrono-minute a bit better?? Black hand, orange tip perhaps??
    The white hand now jars a bit....
    Agreed - the usual 'vernacular' is to have time function hands in white and chrono function hands in orange/red, to differentiate - especially in watches carrying multiple sub-dials as well showing both chrono and time functions amongst them, but certainly the chrono hands need to be 'matched' similarly I'd think; although like the Speedmaster 376.0822, EZM1 and Kobold 323, all white can still work and has an advantage (EZM1/Kobold) that the chrono function is luminous as opposed to most other chronographs which can't be used in darkness.

    Paolo's project and the new 5100 replacement movements by Sinn, Damasko and Tutima seem to indicate that the notion of the centre-minute chrono is still a valid one.
    Last edited by andy111s; 15th September 2018 at 14:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy111s View Post

    Paolo's project and the new 5100 replacement movements by Sinn, Damasko and Tutima seem to indicate that the notion of the centre-minute chrono is still a valid one.
    No kidding Andy
    As you and I both know, the death of the L5100 was a piece of pointless stupidity, there simply is no more legible chronograph.
    Ive been wearing the A13-A for a couple of weeks now, and it is a great watch, only slightly let down by its lume.
    But, I think Eddie has his mind set on a Compax or Uni-compax doe this one, which is fair enough.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav View Post
    Contrasting grey sub dials perfect choice
    I agree, though an alternative might be the inverse.

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    3 sub dials looks the best

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    I seem to be in the minority here, but, while I prefer the idea of it, I think there's too much on the dial with the three subdial design...

    Surprised me really as most people ramble on about busy dials on Breitlings, while I find them fine, but this is (to my eye) a case of trying to squeeze too much into too little area.

    I like the concept though.

    M

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