In reality, its not going to be too hard to collect the card and post it to the subsequent owner.
That is exactly the point and the arrogance of AD’s is quite breathtaking, who the hell are they to decide which parts of a new watch package they will ‘allow’ a ‘full retail price’ purchaser to take possession of after cleared payment? They can *uck off as far as I am concerned and I will buy my toys elsewhere!
Protocol designed to hamper the flipping of desirable watches actually hampers the flipping of desirable watches.
Has anyone told Sky News?
Expertly put (no surprise as you are an expert) and my understanding exactly (although I am not an expert)
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EDIT: In the unlikely event the listing gets pulled, it is as follows:
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Picked a new rolex hulk from goldsmiths yesterday
Kept my card for 12MTHS
Took a photo of card and kissed it goodbye
Was told all aurum groups will be holding cards
Stickers are still on and intact
I did not sign a contract agreeing they can hold the card
Last edited by golfg60; 4th May 2018 at 17:50.
PM sent.
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I'm in the group that thinks this practice won't change anything. If someone wanted that Hulk and it was advertised on SC for whatever the previous stickered-up with warranty card Hulk went for, I'd expect it to sell PDQ. And thus over time buying nearly-new sports Rolexes without a warranty card becomes the norm.
May be off a trusted member on the forum could work..... But I still would not buy a watch and wait a year for the card. Each to the own I suppose should start a voting thread on buying with or without warranty card. Would have my money or more members won't buy without the card!!
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Last edited by bokbok; 4th May 2018 at 18:17.
Incorrect as far as I am aware you need the warranty card to get the watch repaired when you take the watch to a AD.
All said each to there own if you really that desperate to want the watch and wait a year or so from some ADs for the card, and pay top premium and that's if you get the card after the wait!!!
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Warranty card at AD1.
Need warranty work done.
Take the watch to AD2.
If card needed - AD2 rings AD1 to confirm.
Warranty work done.
The only confirmation we have seen so far is going directly to Rolex St James. I would be surprised if ADs are that helpful of flexible
No would not piss on well over Rrp without card not really arsed either way. Won't effect me as not interested in paying well over Rrp then hope to get a card in a year so I got more oil in my lamp.
I just cannot believe how folk are convincing themselves it's not a problem without card on so many levels also paying well over premium without the card!!
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If I had all the money in the world and wanted one I’d refuse it the moment they tried that with me and tell them exactly why. Stubborn, yep definitely but it just perpetuates the madness and people need to give themselves a shake and wake up to the whole circus. Especially the people buying them at crazy prices above retail. What has actually happened! Blows my mind people are this ‘must have’ at all costs about a pretty mundane, mass produced watch.
The crazy thing is corrupt dealers taking back handers are half the trouble (and yes we’ve had proof of this on here with AD employee asking for a bung) or ‘mate’s’ buying them. And the AD’s then punish the genuine customer, the principal of it is enough for me to avoid buying. Some of them must be laughing the fact they’ve been up to no good and they get to blame someone else and impose terms of sale on them for something that’s not their fault.
Now all the same fuss is going to start with Tudor over the GMT and the BB 58
Wouldn’t surprise me if they rolled out the same sale stipulation on these sought after Tudor models too, surely it helps to fire people up and elevate the brand to God like status.
I’ve taken a watch to be regulated at St James, it was under warranty, they didn’t ask for the card and I didn’t have it.
I handed the watch over, they gave me a drink, I sat in their very nice lobby for a short while, they handed back my watch.
You don’t need to hand over the card for warranty work. None that I’ve ever needed. Not at an AD, that I’ve ever used, and not at St James.
The card, to me, serves little more purpose than to be a ‘full set’ and to lend a mite more credibility to a seller.
That said, I wouldn’t buy from some randomer on the internet if they didn’t have it. It’s too much money and the lack of a card has traditionally been a reliable indicator of risk. So maybe the process is having the desired effect.
It does seem crap to hold the cards, but if I was buying I wouldn’t care and I’d suggest the only people who would are flippers and people with enough time on their hands to care about things that don’t matter. And more power to them, we should all be so lucky to have so much time.
This is going in circles, if you don't like the deal, give them the two fingers and go elsewhere.
Just think yourself lucky that they don't keep the watch but let you walk out with the paperwork.
I reply to posts, just as you do.
You post stuff and opinionate as do I and others.
You have a relatively short history here, yet post as an expert - your call Mick, but it does not come across very well if I can be honest.
There is a community here amongst the angst which I think you do not recognise and have not engaged with.
Post away, but expect to be challenged - there are folks on here who have been around for a while who have seen the place (thankfully) grow but sometimes......
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I don't mind being challenged, I don't mind being insulted but I draw the line at tedious stalking.
If you got a problem with me, just say it. If I got something wrong, just say so but knuckle dragging crap such as drinking paint comments and being followed around denotes you got a problem with me - so what is it.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I still fail to see why they don't just build to order, like many car makers.
walk in, order your watch with a deposit, collect in 2 or 3 months, job done. They could even keep one of each in every AD to try on.
no over/under supply, no grey market claptrap because anyone can get one.
happy customers- all with warranty cards
happy Rolex, not sat on unsold stock and probably gaining market share through increased availability (I'm sure a load of folks go and buy a Planet ocean or a Tudor just because they want a watch and they're available, whereas the Submariner they really want isn't)
I'm sure someone will tell me why not, but all joking aside, is this not the direction IWC are going with their factory ordered watches??? the car industry has some pretty cool last minute logistics where they assemble to order so I'm sure there's some potential in the watch industry, it's all manufacturing after all.
Goat for Chairman!
I have never claimed that this forum can manage without me, no one is that important, so that comment is complete and utter bullshit and a figment of your imagination.
Like I said, it is obvious you have a problem with me so best we just ignore each other, what you find so fascinating with me and find the need to make comments like drinking paint is rather puzzling to say the least.
Perhaps the perception of the make would diminish if they churned them out? That would hurt residuals, I reckon. Much better to keep to production levels and maintain the level of desirability they clearly have.
Rolex aren’t striving to be the most popular watch in the world - they are striving for the best watch.
(I reckon)
I think they are striving to be the most popular rather than the best. Their marketing department and strategy are genius - this is why we are constantly talking about them.
When they released the new Daytona, it was not with market leading technical changes - it was a pretty simple design change, and look what it did for the popularity
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I think they are striving to be the most popular rather than the best. Their marketing department and strategy are genius - this is why we are constantly talking about them.
When they released the new Daytona, it was not with market leading technical changes - it was a pretty simple design change, and look what it did for the popularity
‘Popular’ as in - highest selling (a la VW Golf)
Rolex evolution has always moved at a fairly glacial pace.
If they suddenly released something with market leading technical changes I suspect folks would sh*t rather than scramble for it.
I don't think they give much of a hoot about steel sports to be honest. Bread and butter is DJs. Restricting the supply of steel and watching the market explode is quite canny if you can make more money by selling the pm models in lieu of ss.
I can see the blro wg seeing a boost when the ss is released and unobtainable.