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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    I finally managed to get a stripped stud out of the cylinder block.

    Blood, sweat, tears, Plus-Gas, hammer, punches, angle grinder, blowtorch and finally the purchase of a stud extractor.




    Sod you BMW and your thread lock.



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    As an ex-oral surgeon I can sympathise.
    Never resorted to a blowtorch though did reach for (small versions of) pretty much everything else listed ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Behold, my chariot until the spring/summer next year as I need to build confidence for the DA.
    The supreme power of 11 horses and a top speed of less than 60mph with a seat wide enough for comfy bum.
    (Suzuki van-van)

    What a splendid choice! I can't recall who suggested one but they were clearly on the right track ;-)

    Before you dis the 11bhp, that's 22% more than a ybr125 but it's only 2% heavier so it'll be a (relative) rocket ship!

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    Im not dissing the bhp, im quite relieved about it tbh!
    Im going to spend a few weekends tooling round industrial estates working on my clutch control and slow movements before progressing to road.

    I cannot get my brain to master that speed is controlled on clutch not throttle, as im so used to using accelerator on car and not riding clutch. Its totally counter-intuitive to me.

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    [QUOTE=verv;5507802]Behold, my chariot until the spring/summer next year as I need to build confidence for the DA.
    The supreme power of 11 horses and a top speed of less than 60mph with a seat wide enough for comfy bum.
    (Suzuki van-van)

    That looks very cool, not a bike I was aware of but seems an excellent choice... I can’t see how you won’t enjoy that

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Behold, my chariot until the spring/summer next year as I need to build confidence for the DA.
    The supreme power of 11 horses and a top speed of less than 60mph with a seat wide enough for comfy bum.
    (Suzuki van-van)

    Good fun and good for building low speed machine control confidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Im not dissing the bhp, im quite relieved about it tbh!
    Im going to spend a few weekends tooling round industrial estates working on my clutch control and slow movements before progressing to road.

    I cannot get my brain to master that speed is controlled on clutch not throttle, as im so used to using accelerator on car and not riding clutch. Its totally counter-intuitive to me.
    Not quite sure what is taught on CBT, but discovering recently how much more stable low speed maneuvering can be with quite a lot of revs, a fair amount of rear brake and a careful clutch control was a bit of a revelation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Im not dissing the bhp, im quite relieved about it tbh!
    Im going to spend a few weekends tooling round industrial estates working on my clutch control and slow movements before progressing to road.

    I cannot get my brain to master that speed is controlled on clutch not throttle, as im so used to using accelerator on car and not riding clutch. Its totally counter-intuitive to me.
    Nice bike :)

    What helped my slow speed manouvering in the early days was more thinking about the back brake as a kind of reverse accelerator.

    So you set the clutch and throttle at a comfortable steady, bitten, point and feather the back brake up/down to slow down or speed up.

    If that makes sense - makes more sense in my head that written down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Not quite sure what is taught on CBT, but discovering recently how much more stable low speed maneuvering can be with quite a lot of revs, a fair amount of rear brake and a careful clutch control was a bit of a revelation.
    Once you get used to larger bikes, the rear brake and extensive clutch slip for low speed work - can be replaced with accurate throttle control, I have found.

    Think on several BMW single-plate dry clutch bikes- you soon get worried about the smell of burning clutches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Once you get used to larger bikes, the rear brake and extensive clutch slip for low speed work - can be replaced with accurate throttle control, I have found.

    Think on several BMW single-plate dry clutch bikes- you soon get worried about the smell of burning clutches.
    Alternatively, and this is the approach that I've always used my my dry clutch BMWs, simply stopping and putting my foot down then pulling away when there's room rather than trickling along with feet up seems to work well ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Before you dis the 11bhp, that's 22% more than a ybr125 but it's only 2% heavier so it'll be a (relative) rocket ship!
    Lordy, I don't know how I'd cope with the extra power. I've already had the YBR's front wheel in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Lordy, I don't know how I'd cope with the extra power. I've already had the YBR's front wheel in the air.
    That's clutch related and not the bhp ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Lordy, I don't know how I'd cope with the extra power. I've already had the YBR's front wheel in the air.
    I bet that got the pulse racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    That's clutch related and not the bhp ;)
    Indeed it was - I was pulling out of a side road, thought I was stalling, pulled the clutch a bit then gave it a bit more throttle and let the clutch out a bit quick.

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    I bet that got the pulse racing.
    Indeed it did, particularly as I was heading diagonally across the road and could have done with the front wheel on the ground to help with the steering.

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    you soon learn to control your right hand on a bigger bike , my speed has ABS but no traction control - if i open the throttle too much on a slow corner i'll be lucky if i dont lose the back end.

    *fixing bikes can get pretty expensive -esp if you have a full fairing

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Behold, my chariot until the spring/summer next year as I need to build confidence for the DA.
    The supreme power of 11 horses and a top speed of less than 60mph with a seat wide enough for comfy bum.
    (Suzuki van-van)

    C thats a great choice, lovely low squigy seat. I ran one for 3 years and only sold it last year as a part ex on the monkey.

    Top tip for you, check the tyre pressures they are 19 psi front and back , with or without pillion.

    The reason for low pressures are the tyres are part of the suspension system. When I got mine the previous owner had run at the ubiquitous 32 front 36 rear, and it rode like a pig.

    There is a passionate forum , https://suzukivanvan.forumotion.com/

    Im sure there will be a Facebook page too.

    And just in case someone calls you for having a sand bike, heres some of the Van Can club (6 of them) , in the Alps!

    https://youtu.be/1wb22RrntMY

    Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    I finally managed to get a stripped stud out of the cylinder block.

    Blood, sweat, tears, Plus-Gas, hammer, punches, angle grinder, blowtorch and finally the purchase of a stud extractor.




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    Hahahaaaaa........got to love those 2 hour jobs that turn into 2 day nightmares!
    Stud extractor looks interesting, any details available please?
    Exhaust stud?

    Love the railway rail too.....going nowhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Behold, my chariot until the spring/summer next year as I need to build confidence for the DA.
    The supreme power of 11 horses and a top speed of less than 60mph with a seat wide enough for comfy bum.
    (Suzuki van-van)

    A reasonable choice for a first bike imo. Take care, the nutty drivers just got more dangerous.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Lordy, I don't know how I'd cope with the extra power. I've already had the YBR's front wheel in the air.
    Here's a bit of inspiration

    https://youtu.be/4qRcYlybKjI?t=90

    https://youtu.be/PtKZFfifUj4?t=32

    https://youtu.be/NDb0gChO71Q?t=16

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    I finally managed to get a stripped stud out of the cylinder block.

    Blood, sweat, tears, Plus-Gas, hammer, punches, angle grinder, blowtorch and finally the purchase of a stud extractor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa View Post
    Hahahaaaaa........got to love those 2 hour jobs that turn into 2 day nightmares!
    I`ve just bought a Honda NX650 Dominator.
    It`s been sat under a tarpaulin in someones garden for - i reckon - over 10 years, and we all know the condition of motorbicycles that have been sat under a tarpaulin in a garden for over 10 years get into, don`t we.....?

    The chief reason the bike`s previous owner lost interest was that he broke four exhaust studs whilst removing the engine, then had a go at repairing them.
    Instead of the four M8 studs it should have fitted i`ve got 3 M6 screws - and one M6 screw that has sheared off inside the original M8 stud, so i`ve got a bit of work to do there. It`s likely to test all the experience, patience and bodgineering skills that i`ve amassed over the last xx years to fix this one...

    One of the first jobs to tackle were the brakes, and of course the pad pins were seized solid and required careful and accurate drilling to save the caliper.
    For the first time *ever* one of those spiral stud extractor things actually worked - they usually render a difficult stud extraction job into a total horror show when they snap off turning proceedings into an expensive and protracted nightmare involving major motorcycle component dissasembly and spark erosion specialists...









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    Quote Originally Posted by E_2_Right-Force View Post
    .......................
    For the first time *ever* one of those spiral stud extractor things actually worked - they usually render a difficult stud extraction job into a total horror show when they snap off turning proceedings into an expensive and protracted nightmare involving major motorcycle component dissasembly and spark erosion specialists...

    ........................


    From my days in the workshop in the dim and distant past, I am now jealous of your achievement. Never had one of those things work ever!
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    From my days in the workshop in the dim and distant past, I am now jealous of your achievement. Never had one of those things work ever!
    Was just thinking the same thing! Never actually seen one work.

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    My mate asked me to go with him today to swap his street triple for a speed triple...

    I got a nice surprise of a £100 clothing voucher for Triumph clothing whilst we we were there...




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    Enjoyable trip out today...😎

















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    Lake Vyrnwy?
    I've only ever been there twice and both times were to run 13.1 miles so I'd like to go back and enjoy the visit one day.

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    ^^^^Yes and then over the mountain and down to Bala... 🤓🤓

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch View Post
    Enjoyable trip out today...
    Great stuff - my kind of roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Was just thinking the same thing! Never actually seen one work.
    Agreed they usually make a bad job worse ! Have had good luck with reverse drill bits however- they seem to grab like the extractor should.

    Grip-it sockets work great on mangled nuts and bolts.

    Well done on the stud extraction however it was achieved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa View Post
    Hahahaaaaa........got to love those 2 hour jobs that turn into 2 day nightmares!
    Stud extractor looks interesting, any details available please?
    Exhaust stud?

    Love the railway rail too.....going nowhere!
    Stud extractor:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Yes, exhaust stud. (I had to butcher up the head a bit to get access for the extractor but I've smoothed the cut off since).




    The railway rails came from the now defunct Dartmoor Railway Line, the part that ran freight down from the quarries. They now serve as a base for my log burner. (The racking on the right is not there in the colder months when the fire is in use).




    The reason the downpipes were taken off was to get them ceramic coated.




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    Toying with the idea of a Diavel for the lakeside cruising and local alpine roads. Looks a bit Batmanesque. Anyone own one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Toying with the idea of a Diavel for the lakeside cruising and local alpine roads. Looks a bit Batmanesque. Anyone own one?


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    Is an XDiavel close enough?

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    Certainly is. Very nice. Some reviewers have said it handles like the more conventional naked bikes rather than a lumbering heavyweight: would you agree?


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Toying with the idea of a Diavel for the lakeside cruising and local alpine roads. Looks a bit Batmanesque. Anyone own one?


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    Any Diavel will do the job - ideally you should get the suspension set up for your weight

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    Thanks. I’ll investigate further. Certainly very tempting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Thanks. I’ll investigate further. Certainly very tempting.


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    I tested the 1260S not long ago. Amazing bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Certainly is. Very nice. Some reviewers have said it handles like the more conventional naked bikes rather than a lumbering heavyweight: would you agree?


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    They are beautiful bikes, great motor and definitely handle better than they look like they should but I found it a touch barge-like compared to a hypernaked. As you’d expect.

    I doubt you’d regret a couple of hours test riding one :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Certainly is. Very nice. Some reviewers have said it handles like the more conventional naked bikes rather than a lumbering heavyweight: would you agree?


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    Considering the wheelbase, and the massive rear tyre, it flops from side to side with surprising ease. I’m unable to ride conventional bikes so can’t really comment on how this compares to one of those. A test ride is a must...👍

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    Thanks for the additional replies. I've had Superbikes and big Nakeds, and was initially thinking of bikes like the CB1000, Speed Triple and KTM 890, but this sings in its own unique way. Yes, a test ride is certainly necessary as in addition to the handling I need to check whether an upright position suits me. I've never found anything but a Superbike comfortable on the back, so will have to see.

    I presume Ducati have a better reputation for reliability these days?

    Like probably most riders, I've always wanted a Duke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Thanks for the additional replies. I've had Superbikes and big Nakeds, and was initially thinking of bikes like the CB1000, Speed Triple and KTM 890, but this sings in its own unique way. Yes, a test ride is certainly necessary as in addition to the handling I need to check whether an upright position suits me. I've never found anything but a Superbike comfortable on the back, so will have to see.

    I presume Ducati have a better reputation for reliability these days?

    Like probably most riders, I've always wanted a Duke...
    You won't have to look too hard to find people complaining about one thing or another, regardless of brand and model...but yes, the reliability (or lack of) of Ducati of old is no more, thankfully.

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    Thank God! The old costs for doing anything were eye watering, especially when on some models half the bike had to be dismantled just to get to some of the basis components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Thank God! The old costs for doing anything were eye watering, especially when on some models half the bike had to be dismantled just to get to some of the basis components.
    Don't think Ducati are now infallible modern ones are stuffed with electronics which do fail and some faults are easier to fix than others; and there is often a certain amount of dismantling in order to access those electronics. Ducati servicing and repairs are still relatively expensive if you have them worked on by a dealership, but good independents are available and cheaper.
    If you are buying new then it's not so much of a problem; if used then make sure it has a full service history and that the 'expensive' services have been done (belts, valve clearances etc.) or bike is priced accordingly.
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    A wheel refurb, new rubber, new disks and pads, a full year's MOT
    Not bad for a 20 year old bike




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    Thanks. It does sound like they've addressed the general complaints. Won't get the chance to test ride until the 2nd week of Sep, so will do some further reading, and of course watch plenty of vids to hear the sound!

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    My mates 2017 Pikes Peak Multistrada has also been far from reliable. Great when it works but a frustrating bike to own.

    I’d love a 999 or 1098 as a second bike but the reliability and service costs put me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanford View Post
    You won't have to look too hard to find people complaining about one thing or another, regardless of brand and model...but yes, the reliability (or lack of) of Ducati of old is no more, thankfully.
    Told you

    For what it's worth, I've had a Multistrada (2015 DVT) which, apart from a dodgy fuel gauge sender and a throttle position sensor, was trouble free. My Diavel (2015) has also had a fuel gauge sender replaced but that is all...Ducati is not unique in experiencing problems with fuel gauge senders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanford View Post
    Told you

    For what it's worth, I've had a Multistrada (2015 DVT) which, apart from a dodgy fuel gauge sender and a throttle position sensor, was trouble free. My Diavel (2015) has also had a fuel gauge sender replaced but that is all...Ducati is not unique in experiencing problems with fuel gauge senders.
    The brand new Triumph Bobber Black that I had as a loan bike a couple of weeks ago had an issue with the fuel gauge sender. First time I brimmed it it claimed 48 miles until empty and kept claiming that for the next 130 miles or so until it started to go down. The second time it claimed about 30 and did similar.

    The Triumph service manager's reaction suggested this wasn't an isolated incident.

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    Yeah, I appreciate that no brand is issue-free. That said none of my Blades ever had a single issue.

    What did you think of the Bobber Gyp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Yeah, I appreciate that no brand is issue-free. That said none of my Blades ever had a single issue.

    What did you think of the Bobber Gyp?
    Expected to hate it, after 200 or so miles I'd come to rather like it.

    Apparently I'm unusual as most people start of liking it but come to hate it after 100 miles or so.

    Comments a few pages back - https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...=1#post5499460

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    The brand new Triumph Bobber Black that I had as a loan bike a couple of weeks ago had an issue with the fuel gauge sender. First time I brimmed it it claimed 48 miles until empty and kept claiming that for the next 130 miles or so until it started to go down. The second time it claimed about 30 and did similar.

    The Triumph service manager's reaction suggested this wasn't an isolated incident.
    My Bobber TFC never reads full despite me brimming the tank to the neck..... conversely my XDiavel has been 100% reliable and now has over 7k miles on it.. it’s had a couple of recalls, but they were sorted quickly and all is good..👍

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    My Fireblade has no fuel gauge issues. Largely because it has no fuel gauge, nor low fuel light in fact.
    It’s a joy to feel it spluttering to death underneath you as you blindly fiddle around with the reserve tap under your knee at 70mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plake View Post
    My Fireblade has no fuel gauge issues. Largely because it has no fuel gauge, nor low fuel light in fact.
    It’s a joy to feel it spluttering to death underneath you as you blindly fiddle around with the reserve tap under your knee at 70mph.
    Well if you will ride that slowly...

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