The Euros 2024 Thread

[TaketheCannoli]

That isn’t strictly true though Ryan. He got past his man a couple of times but certainly wasn’t murdering him be any stretch or we’d have created more chances. He was completely anonymous in the second half, hardly got a kick. Bowen looked sharper and quicker when he came on and we almost scored from his first cross. There’s too much hype around Saka for me.

Bowen more potent than Saka?!!? Saka set up the goal for Bellingham and was murdering their left back until he got tired.

[TaketheCannoli]

Foden looked poor because he was playing out of position. Southgate can’t turn him into a winger any
more than he can turn TAA into a midfield player. It’s a tournament, play people in their correct positions or they don’t play at all. For decades England managers have done this and it’s never worked - so I know, let’s keep doing it!

Would Italy play Chiesa at right back? Spain play Morata at CB? Germany play Musiala as a DCM? No of course they wouldn’t. They must laugh at us.

hasnt trent started most of the last 10 games in midfield? not sure why this is a surprise now the tournament has started?

if anyone should be dropped after that opener its foden.

[cyrusir]

Foden looked poor because he was playing out of position. Southgate can’t turn him into a winger any
more than he can turn TAA into a midfield player. It’s a tournament, play people in their correct positions or they don’t play at all. For decades England managers have done this and it’s never worked - so I know, let’s keep doing it!

Would Italy play Chiesa at right back? Spain play Morata at CB? Germany play Musiala as a DCM? No of course they wouldn’t. They must laugh at us.

Kimmich says hi

[JPCain86]

Kimmich says hi

To be fair Kimmich has played RB for club and country for years now and only occasionally moved into CDM.

But the point is wrong. Foden has played out wide for City for more of his career than he has as a 10. Pep often played De Bruyne there or Alvarez.

The difference is each one of Peps players are drilled to know exactly what to do at all time. It's clear south gate gives no real instructions. So players look pretty lost out there.

Bellingham plays 10, then Foden drifts in to 10, then Kane comes deep into 10. He needs to tell these players what to do.

[RustyBin5]

Saka second half v Serbia was nothing to do with tiredness- the Serbian just figured how to defend against him during the half time talk. He just didn’t give him the space.

[TaketheCannoli]

Correct, I hadn't realised someone said he was tired.

Saka second half v Serbia was nothing to do with tiredness- the Serbian just figured how to defend against him during the half time talk. He just didn’t give him the space.

[cbh]

So many top draw armchair managers on here, I'm only surprised Southgate hasn't come calling for your incisive input 😂

[noTAGlove]

So many top draw armchair managers on here, I'm only surprised Southgate hasn't come calling for your incisive input 😂

You can’t teach passion.

[Kingstepper]

Remind me again how many times have members here commented on commentators commenting on Bellingham’s age.

[ryanb741]

Saka second half v Serbia was nothing to do with tiredness- the Serbian just figured how to defend against him during the half time talk. He just didn’t give him the space.

No he's been injured and missed Arsenal's last game as well as England's friendlies. He ran out of juice. If PL's finest defenders can't figure out how to defend against him I suspect Serbia's back line won't either!

[RustyBin5]

https://apnews.com/article/turkey-ge...2d97bc1026e120

This was unfortunate to see. Turkey Georgia not a rivalry is expected to have kicked off necessarily. Noticeably there has been a lot of unsegregated crowds at the euros and not seen so much as a scuffle in any other game

[noTAGlove]

Wow, talk about a late equaliser.

[TaketheCannoli]

Unreal. Literally two seconds left when he headed it!

Wow, talk about a late equaliser.

[TaketheCannoli]

Same team tonight. Saying nowt. Just remembered that in the last Euro semis we didn’t score from open play in 120 minutes then only had one shot on target in 120 minutes in the final.
Getting to that final has been a massive smokescreen over Southgate’s time. We’ve lost to the first top team we’ve played in every tournament.

[thegoat]

To be fair Kimmich has played RB for club and country for years now and only occasionally moved into CDM.

But the point is wrong. Foden has played out wide for City for more of his career than he has as a 10. Pep often played De Bruyne there or Alvarez.

The difference is each one of Peps players are drilled to know exactly what to do at all time. It's clear south gate gives no real instructions. So players look pretty lost out there.

Bellingham plays 10, then Foden drifts in to 10, then Kane comes deep into 10. He needs to tell these players what to do.

Foden has played out of position because Pep knows he can be trusted in his system and players were performing better in his preferred role . No biggie when it’s KdB or Bernardo Silva in that role .
Foden has played as a 10 this season and has his best stats to date . He’s also performing incredibly well , definitely City’s most consistent player, Rodri aside .
He will be City’s 10 going forward once de Bruynes future is sorted .
He’s Englands most natural No 10 and should be played there . Bellingham would be a fantastic No 8 and Rice a defensive midfielder /No 6 . These three should form the basis of the midfield for this tournament . Gallagher , Bowen , Wharton etc will be given valuable playing time and should look forward to future competition.
I’ve no skin in this argument , couldn’t give a flying one about England but shoehorning players onto the pitch out of position rarely works . You only have to go back to the Lampard , Gerrard / Scholes situation to realise this .


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[markbannister]

Well that's the first mention of Bellingham's age before we've even started.

[Dave+63]

Do England think they’re playing in red and white?

[RustyBin5]

Danish gift for you. Dunno why they now sitting in tho

[TaketheCannoli]

WTF are we doing? Why so passive? No press or urgency. Pitch is like cake.

[RustyBin5]

Well that was coming. Can’t say I’m surprised

[TaketheCannoli]

So predictable. Score and sit back. We really are utter shyte.

[Jimmcb]

Surprised the ref didn’t find a reason to chalk the Denmark goal off! Terrible refereeing

Is he Benny from Bedford!

Jim

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So predictable. Score and sit back. We really are utter shyte.

Been saying that for years.

I’ve actually switched off the commentary. Shearer is nauseating.

Jim

[RustyBin5]

Ref doesn’t know the advantage rule either

[Jimmcb]

Ref doesn’t know the advantage rule either

Is Bellingham playing??

J

[Dave+63]

WTF is Kane going on our goal line?

He’s the centre forward FFS!

[learningtofly]

God, we’re awful.

[TaketheCannoli]

Score a goal. Sit back. Be passive. No pressing. No urgency. Concede.


Rinse and repeat.

We are the most boring team in the tournament. We’re getting passed to death here. We’re not going to win the thing so just go out in the groups so Southgate gets the bullet sooner.

[learningtofly]

WTF is Kane going on our goal line?

He’s the centre fiesta FFS!

What’s one of them, then?

[Jimmcb]

WTF is Kane going on our goal line?

He’s the centre fiesta FFS!

I was thinking the same.

They look simply devoid of any plan.

They’re at the level Scotland were against Germany. Yes, that bad.

Jim

[Franky Four Fingers]

Think Shearer might pop a vein before the end of the game

[Kingstepper]

What’s one of them, then?

Centrefold?

[noTAGlove]

Don’t panic. There is the half time Southgate pep talk to come, and some inspired substitutions.

[BillyCasper]

We’ll see Southgate’s tactical nous and a change. Thump it up and chase!


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[TaketheCannoli]

Can you imagine Southgate at half time? “Inside voices please. Use your words”.

F’ing wet lettuce. Can’t look at him anymore.

[RustyBin5]

Score a goal. Sit back. Be passive. No pressing. No urgency. Concede.


Rinse and repeat.

We are the most boring team in the tournament. We’re getting passed to death here. We’re not going to win the thing so just go out in the groups so Southgate gets the bullet sooner.

Worse than Scotland?

[Dave+63]

Oh what the heck

We’re on the March we’re Ally’s Army!

[TaketheCannoli]

I didn’t say bad I said boring. But Scotland last night were better than that 45 minutes.

Worse than Scotland?

[RustyBin5]

All joking aside it’s quite easy. Just don’t sit back and wait for Denmark to attack you. Cos they will. Bizarre system - as Jim said it’s almost as dumb as Scotland’s system (or lack of) v Germany.

[ryanb741]

Don’t panic. There is the half time Southgate pep talk to come, and some inspired substitutions.

I think we should bring TAA and Bellingham on for the 2nd half.

[RustyBin5]

I didn’t say bad I said boring. But Scotland last night were better than that 45 minutes.

Was pulling your leg but for what it’s worth I thought bad summed it up too

[Jimmcb]

Worse than Scotland?

Much! 🤯

[BillyCasper]

Looks like Foden was following Southgate’s instructions and anonymous. Then, thought, stuff this and went for it. Three decent direct runs at them. Iffy finishing, but he went for it. Hoik off TAA, bring on a left sided player and let Foden off the leash.


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[manganr]

So predictable. Score and sit back. We really are utter shyte.

Absolutely this.... The worst thing England can ever do is score early on. For as long as I can remember they just try to hang onto that goal. So predictable but it makes for an interesting second half.

[g40steve]

Sorry but this game shows Southgate is clueless, we are playing an alien way of playing!
All our players apart from Kane play instant press & dynamic fast football.
We have no out players our number 9’s playing CH

[ryanb741]

I've got a theory that Fat Sam was never sacked and that the waistcoat is acting as a frontman for him.

[RustyBin5]

Bit more positive. Foden released a bit

[lewie]

Friend of mines just popped an undercoat on his skirting- might pop up and watch that dry

[TaketheCannoli]

[thegoat]

Such a pity that Gordon wasn’t taken either the squad .
He’d be ideal here


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[hilly10]

Not going to comment, just despair.