Reply With QuoteIt depends on the taxation designation on the V5
PLG is car limits
LCV is the lower Van limits
My son is a plumber and has a small Mercedes citan van, we are trying to establish what speed he can drive at on dual carriage way such as A12, A1, A14? When I google it seems be 60mph for a commercial van but is that right? I understand a Ford Transit being bigger, maybe loaded with more but a van smaller than most suv cars?
Anyone know the correct description of “commercial van”
It depends on the taxation designation on the V5
PLG is car limits
LCV is the lower Van limits
Yes, me - to my cost.Originally Posted by justin44
Commercail vehicle = any vehicle built for the carriage of goods. So irespective of there being a passenger-carrying variant of the same bodyshell, if it left the factory with a load-bearing area it will be classed as commercial.
And a dual carriageway is a road with two carriageways separated by a physical barrier.
70mph on motorway’s, 60mph on dual carriageways and 50mph in national speed limit roads.
See also...Speed limits.
That has a section that reads:
Vans, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles
Most vans:
- have a lower speed limit than cars
- must follow the speed limits for goods vehicles of the same weight
Vehicles under 2 tonnes laden (loaded) weight may qualify as a ‘car-derived van’ or ‘dual-purpose vehicle’. These vehicles have the same speed limits as cars.
This is the best advice - check what classification the vehicle is on the V5.
Thanks people this has been a real eye opener to me, and I can’t help but feel it’s a bit unfair, friend has a 15 year old petrol Land Cruiser that can sail along on a motorway at 70mph but my sons van half the size and weight with better breaks has to sit at 60mph.
The van is allowed to do 70mph on a motorway but not on a dual carriageway.
I never knew about this, I’ve been tanking along at 70 on duel carriageways
Guess how I found out!
With some dual carriageways can't see the other one due to trees/hedges in between. Odd that if the other carriageway didn't exist or deviated elsewhere (seen a few like this) would effectively be a one-way street with 50mph limit.
I had our VW T5 reclassified to get round this.
I didn’t realise van drivers were subject to speed limits!
Most drive like they are not subject to any of the Highway Code.
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When they're not in their vans they're on their bicycles then ;)
Or 'phones.
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Or on someone's rear bumper...
As someone who also (sometimes) sails along motorways in my 26 year old petrol Landcruiser at 70'ish mph, all I can say is, "Them's the brakes".
;-)
Van based motorhome conversions (up to 3.5-tonne) are private vehicles when registered as none commercials from new, or reclassified after a modification.
Self build van conversions are still commecials, and subject to restrictions if the V5 registered classification remains unchanged.
it does seem unfair that a small noddy van is speed restricted.
The trade off will be that the vat is recoverable fir commercials.
Almost impossible to get this done now, unless you have a permanent high top. Pop tops don’t count.
A lot of it is down to weight - 2030kg being the limit so if you have a T32 Transporter, it’s classed as a commercial vehicle whether it has side and/or rear windows, whereas the T28/30…..
The Citan is a CDV, so I reckon it’s subject to the same regs as cars.
I was penalised in the A19 a few years back in my van so it’s the one speed restriction I’m anal about .
At the subsequent speed awareness course , there wasn’t a soul who was aware of it .
Lesson learned
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