Something Korean then if you don't want another Honda. (Curious to know its mileage and age though).
Hi all, as above.
Our ageing Honda CRV is becoming a bit of a money pit.
Something a newer is required, so looking for personal recommendations from the group collective.
The following criteria is a must:
Large boot
High driving position
Not Diesel as we do a lot of small journeys
Not a newer CRV - Fancy a change
Not mega expensive to run
Budget is £10-£12K ish.
Many thanks
Mark
Something Korean then if you don't want another Honda. (Curious to know its mileage and age though).
Hi
We went through something similar very recently and ended up with a Jeep Cherokee - not suitable in your case as it’s a diesel.
But we also liked a Mitsubishi Outlander which fits most of your criteria, especially if you get one that has zero road tax.
Cheers
Mazda CX-5 petrol 2 litre. You'll probably be looking at 10 year old cars for £10-12k and those MY CX-5s weren't available with an autobox. Get a "Sport" or "Sport Nav" model and you get all the bells and whistles. Good to drive too from all accounts.
For me, the other options would be...
Hyundai Tuscon and/or Kia Sportage - which you might get a slightly newer MY for the budget but the petrol versions of those are a bit of a lottery and can have issues.
VW Tiguan - again petrol versions might be a bit of a lottery.
Stick with dull, the CRV does what it should and at your budget it's the least risky.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
"You gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em".
RX450 would give you a massive choice, they are very good and tick your boxes
I recently swapped from volvo to Lexus and so long as you are happy with lexus front seat and a CVT drive belt the quality is superior. Although a Korean emanation will supply a much newer registration for the same money
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Use your head and get another Honda, it just makes sense. I have been running Hondas since 2004 and not even a light bulb has blown.
My sister has been running a 2020 Kia Sportage since new and it’s never let her down. I think it’s a 1.6 petrol too. The balloon payment on her PCP was around £10k and at the time, they were going for around £14k so she decided to pay off the balloon and keep the car.
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
So clever my foot fell off.
Another big fan here. But the OP stated that his Honda is becoming troublesome. That's why I asked for mileage and age. (Just to prepare myself...). So at a certain point, things must go wrong. Having said that, the Honda dealer cherishes a one-owner-since-new Honda Legend that has done nearly 700,000kms with only regular maintenance.
The later-day Hondas have relatively small engine. I can't help thinking that a few CC extra isn't all that bad. Older cars have a 2.0 ltr engine and would narrow my Honda search to cars with that engine.
Having said that, my old (t)rusty Suzuki Jimmy (2001) has done 100,000+ miles without any problem. The Vitara is perhaps an interesting option as well. But check for rust first!!!
I've just ordered an Audi Q4 45 E Tron
HR-V manual/petrol
Not a single problem in four years (was bought used at just under three and a half years old). Was low mileage though, bought with 30K and sold with 57K
Love Hondas ......... at least until the electric range came along.
A used Mitsubishi ASX or maybe a Suzuki Vitara?
Rav4?
Could probably get a Seat Ateca for that kind of money.
On ruling out a diesel, I've run a e91 BMW 330d for 10 years and my wife has run a Mk4 Honda CRV 2.2 DTEC for 6 years. 95% of journeys in both cars are short trips.
Both cars have DPFs, but we've (touch wood) had zero short journey related issues with either car in those time frames.
My view is that it's not necessarily short journeys that are the issue with Diesels, it's a lack of long journeys that causes problems. As long as the car gets a few long trips a year it should be ok.
A Diesel engine suits an SUV due to the extra torque. Our CRV has 150 bhp but it doesn't feel slow.
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Is ULEZ an issue or concern for you? Your profile says you're in Bristol - do they have a ULEZ and might you be in/near the catchment? If so, those diesels will not be compliant - you'll need Euro 6 (from 2016*) at least I think.
Some Euro6 compliant car were available from as early as 2012/13 but they are rare - most of the mainstream came onboard from 2016
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OP, what do you mean by a "large boot"? In my experience SUVs sacrifice boot space for passenger space; I have a Karoq & the boot area (maybe not volume) is smaller than my old series 2 Mondeo & vastly smaller than something like an Octavia.
The 150hp 1.5TSi in the Karoq is pretty good as long as the turbo is spinning but I would really like some more bottom end torque. It does do nearly 43mpg though.
The AT links above have your postcode. I think when posting, you delete part of the web address up to the question mark and then cut and paste into your reply.
The Mrs got a CX-30 and its a great car, if it is within your budget. The interior is excellent for the price point of the car.
I just bought a Dacia Duster as an interim solution until we are in a position to go ev, or whatever comes next. It’ll be used mainly as a dog-wagon/runabout. Have to say so far I love it! Goes well, stops well, comfy, roomy, practical. Doesn’t have any unnecessary tech (well, could live without the side view cameras) and even has actual physical buttons for all the usual functions as well as a carplay-enabled touchscreen thingy. Apart from one or two minor quirks it’s exceeding expectations on every front atm, especially for the money it cost.
To be fair, thats coming from someone who has no real interest in cars at least not modern ones, so errr, ymmv!
I have the bigger Skoda, the Kodiaq, boot is huge, i'd day as deep as my previous Octavia estate, a smidge wider and a good chunk taller. It was a close call between the 1.5TSi and 2.0TDi both with 150hp, glad i went diesel as it has great low down torque and gets me 60mpg
Another vote for Suzuki. I've had a Range Rover, 2 Land Rovers, 2 Merceds ML and my last one was a Jaguar F-Pace. I had the F-Pace for 3 years but only did 2000 miles in that time and decided I shouldn't leave it sitting on the drive, depreciating all the time. I got a surprisingly good price from a dealer for the Jag and bought a Suzuki Vitara Allgrip automatic, which is a joy to drive, and banked a fair wedge of cash. It's a 1.4 litre turbo-charged petrol.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Just remembered that I didn't thank everyone for the recommendations and advice, so thanks all!
Also, to bring this thread to a (satisfactory) close, we went for a 2019 Kia Sportage:
Screenshot_20240330-171001~3 by mcridland, on Flickr
Very happy!
Mark
Good choice!
In my country, a string of Kia dealers also sells Land Rover and Jaguar.
I was able to have a look inside the local dealer’s workshop. That opened my eyes. The LaRo/Jag part of the shop: engines and g’boxes on stands, oily floor. Big cars with undergoing ‘open heart surgery’ The Kia part: sort of combination of an F1 factory/hospital surgery room. Clean, mechanics wearing clean workgear.
I guess that Kias are trouble-free cars.
I have had my X3 2.0d from six months old it’s three years old now and touch wood it’s been a joy to own and drive. But now retired I will be looking to change next year and the Sportage looks to fit the bill, with seven years warranty it’s a no brainier.
Here, KIA was the first with 5 yr warranty. Other Korean brands + Honda followed. Then, KIA raised it to 7yrs. Honda, Lexus, and Toyota answered with… 10 yrs warranty.
Toyota warranty extends a year at a time when it’s serviced by an official Toyota dealer up to maximum ten years.
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Sportage tend to get awesome reviews. Hope it treats you well
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For the last few years I’ve been helping a friend maintain her 6 figure mileage 12+ year old Kia Sorrennto.
We’ve done various bits and pieces, mainly suspension replacements incl dampers and drop links, front and rear brakes and some fuel system components amongst other things.
When I get it up on the ramp I’m always impressed by how clean it is with very limited surface rusting, but mainly it’s obvious they’re cars that have been properly engineered with thought given to how they will be maintained/repaired when they need it.
Perhaps much newer ones are different, like some other brands, but they seem to make decent cars.
That was my first thought too, as it looks like a very nice car for the £12k budget.
A quick AT search showed that they can indeed be had for that money, but the OP's purchase does look like a very nice one, so may have been a bit higher.
I would also be keen to know too.
Yes, was slightly under budget and bought from a local dealer at £11.5K, but does have 91k miles. It is a diesel though, which I know wasn't part of the ask, but was convinced by the much higher MPG.
Screenshot_20240330-171657 by mcridland, on Flickr
Thanks
Mark
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