Howe has to go. How the heck have Newcastle not even got 3rd with the results going their way? That's shameful I'm sorry.
Well at least UEFA got what they wanted and PSG went through. Corrupt as fuck.
Onwards and upwards with this incredible squad. Less than two seasons into our journey and we’ll be ok. So proud of this group.
Sorry that's BS. Tough group but Newcastle are a team that finished 4th in the PL, the top league, playing against an appalling Milan side, a weakened Dortmund and an out of sorts PSG. And then the results going their way and they still somehow contrive to lose to this shoddy Milan side by being tactically inept and being unfit.
Them and Man Utd's abject performances will really impact on England's UEFA coefficient which means 5th place in the PL may not get a CL spot. We are suffering because of Liverpool's 5th place finish last year as theyd have racked up a load of points this season, and United being pony.
Hopefully the remaining English teams go far because as it stands we are behind Spain and Germany in the UEFA coefficients.
So last 16 23/24 Champions League
4 Spanish
3 German
3 Italian
2 England
1 Portugal
1 Danish
1 Dutch
1 French
Best league in the world innit mate.....
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OK so we’re out of the UCL. Personally I’m not that bothered. We’re five years or more ahead of anyone’s wildest dreams. We’ve been a laughing stock for more than 15 years. We’ve spent nowt compared to the the big boys.
The owners will continue to build the club and its revenue and we’ll build from
here. It’s all good, it really is.
Similar list of potential opponents for the two PL teams left in it.
Lazio
Inter
Napoli
PSG
FC Copenhagen
FC Porto
Arse can get Leipzig
City can get Eindhoven
I’d be tempted by Porto or Copenhagen . None of the others would be on my go to list.
Honestly I’m not bothered. I reacted to being criticised when we didn’t deserve that considering the whole picture. Our season is hard enough with the injuries we have. Our time will come. In terms of investment were decades being the Manchester clubs and Chelsea so we’ve got time on our side.
I hope City go on and win it and Arsenal go
out next round.
Best remove the expletive further down TTC
Behave. Milan are an average team at best, dortmund are currently 5th in the bundesliga. It looked hard because of the names, in reality Newcastle should have got through.
Howes basic approach to tactics let them down. You can’t rely on being purely a physically aggressive team in Europe, the refs won’t allow it. Howe showed a lack of nous, which will eventually cost him his job.
The Saudis won’t tolerate failure long term. I imagine he’ll walk at some point, I wouldn’t want to upset the ownership………
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I disagree.
It’s Newcastles first champions league attempt and although finished bottom they acquitted themselves well in the games.
It’s also the majority of the players and the managers first attempt in the champions league.
This year is essentially a view of how top teams operate and the issues faced of playing top opposition midweek then back to the prem a few days later.
Although they are out they played well and will fair better next time.
As for Howe I think he’s gone at the end of the season as I’ve already stated. He’s overachieved and basically made a rod for his own back now.
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I started doubting myself for a minute but I did read it somewhere and it was not a figment of my imagination.
https://www.givemesport.com/jose-mou...ws-eddie-howe/
I am not suggesting the rumour is true of course, most rumours are wide off the mark.
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I don’t think it’s likely they’ll be there next season. The top 3 looks relatively set, then Villa look strong, and spurs will (unfortunately) come good once Maddison etc come back. Especially if the chicken man has discovered how to score.
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Thanks, I'd never seen that. On the basis that it's a givemesport (never heard of them) article and it doesn't use a single quote or reference a single source I think I'll choose to ignore it. You could literally re-publish that article using other clubs and managers names and put my name on it as the author and it would hold the same relevance.
I strongly doubt there is any substance to this Jose story and whilst he has a great big trophy cabinet, he feels like a manager who is well past his sell by date.
Whatever you think about the Newcastle ownership they've made a number of quite astute signings both off and on the pitch and swapping EH for JM would be a very curious and likely very poorly received decision.
I think Eddie is doing well, its not like they did a Chelsea or City and spend billions. Their team on paper is pretty poor, the top 4 is pretty hard to achieve each season, especially now with 7-8 teams all having a chance.
The thing about plans is if you overachieve and hit a key milestone early then that gives you the chance to re-evaluate the plan, maybe make a new plan and use the overachievement to invest in the new goal.
Sorry, I know Newcastle have had injuries but coming 4th in their group is an absolute disgrace, the fans should not be 'proud' of that and the owners will, I assure you, already be planning Eddie's replacement.
If they stay on the current path when are they realistically getting back into the CL? They won't be able to invest in players without a revenue stream to enable them to do that without falling foul of FFP.
Good night for the Brits tonight. Brighton, West Ham, Rangers all doing the business, Villa drew and Liverpool B lost narrowly.
Thursdays > Tuesdays/Wednesdays
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I accept everyone has injuries but you're talking about a couple of players at Arsenal. I'm talking about 12 players at Newcastle. We've started the same team for six straight games and haven't been able to make substitutions because our bench has a combination of kids, goalkeepers and pensioners.
This team of absentees could start EPL games. So when you've got this many out it doesn't just affect your starting team but your ability to save legs and manage games by making changes.
Pope
Targett Botman Burn Murphy
Willock Anderson Longstaff Barnes
Tonali (not injured)
Wilson
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Good win for West Ham last night.
Topping their group puts them into the last 16 of the Europa.
Cheers,
Neil.
A rare good week for Scottish teams in Europe this week.
Great result for Rangers(said through gritted teeth lol) beating Real Betis (who were unbeaten at home this season) away and qualifying for Europa last 16 as group winners.
Aberdeen beating Frankfurt 2-0 (Frankfurt beat Bayern 5-1 at the weekend) and Celtic eventually winning a champions league game against Feyenoord.
Some more information on the UEFA co-efficient situation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67722356
On the flip side the English teams that did qualify did so in 1st place in their groups so should in theory progress further which would boost the points we need to get a 5th CL spot.
I’ve just caught up on this thread. I wish any of our alleged tops teams in Scotland were half as good as Newcastle who’ve been caught in a maelstrom here.
Scottish football at this level is really bad sadly. We have no understanding of how to play the European teams and refs.
Playing out from the back and high pressing EU style or England style is not our forte. God only knows what is these days.
It’ll be the same next season, the season after and the seasons after that etc etc etc
Jim
FC Porto vs Arsenal
Napoli vs Barcelona
Paris Saint-Germain vs Real Sociedad
Inter vs Atletico Madrid
PSV Eindhoven vs Borussia Dortmund
Lazio vs Bayern Munich
FC Copenhagen vs Manchester City
RB Leipzig vs Real Madrid
City get the easiest game.
Odds on both Inter vs Athletico Madrid games ending 0-0?
Watching the Saudi Community Shield thing City are playing in against what appears to be a Japanese version of Manchester United, what has happened to Kyle Walker? He looks a shadow of his former self