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    40mm HAQ quartz diver or tool watch?

    Is there such a thing as a HAQ quartz diver, or tool watch, in a smaller size?

    I have a Sinn UX which I love, but I just feel it’s just a little too big for me. Sweet spot for me would be 40mm, but a mm or two either way would be ok. Any suggestions to replace the UX?

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    Sorry; but what is HAQ?

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    High Accuracy Quartz
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    Sinn EZM2 is 41mm



    ... if you can find one...

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    If you can find one of Eddie’s chronometer certified PRS-18’’s, that would fit the bill for a HAQ diver. I think the diameter is 39mm. I owned an automatic version. Great watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
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    Thank you ... yes a modest sized Grand Seiko Diver on a bracelet would be very popular I believe ...
    Last edited by Montello; 14th January 2022 at 18:22.

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    Good suggestions fella’s thank you. :)


    I seem to remember there used to be a HAQ Seiko diver made a few years ago, forgotten the model number now, must be like hen’s teeth to find now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Thank you ... yes a modest sized Grand Seiko Diver on a bracelet would be very popular I believe ...
    They are excellent - but not really modestly sized (43.6mm)...



    The SBGX335 is pretty much my go to watch these days.

    Good write up here

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    U50 cased UX would just about be my perfect watch.

    Hope Sinn are listening

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    They are excellent - but not really modestly sized (43.6mm)...



    The SBGX335 is pretty much my go to watch these days.

    Good write up here

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    If they shrunk that to 40mm and 12mm thick it would be perfect.

    Great watch if you can carry the size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    They are excellent - but not really modestly sized (43.6mm)...



    The SBGX335 is pretty much my go to watch these days.

    Good write up here

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    That’s lovely

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    40mm HAQ quartz diver or tool watch?

    Not a diver but GS SBGX341 is pretty cool and has 200m WR







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    Last edited by lughugger; 14th January 2022 at 19:44.

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    The Seiko SBCM023 might be an option as it’s sized at 39mm and the 8F35 movement is apparently accurate to 20 seconds per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoat View Post
    The Seiko SBCM023 might be an option as it’s sized at 39mm and the 8F35 movement is apparently accurate to 20 seconds per year.

    Yes that’s the Seiko I was talking about, are they hard to get hold of, not made anymore I think?

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    What about the PRS18A COSC version? 40mm and HAQ.

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    Certina DS Action at 41mm has a 'Precidrive' HAQ and a choice of dial finishes, bracelet &c. I've owned a Certina quartz diver, and it was a fantastic watch - the finishing is exceptional, it's by no means a compromise watch.






    Longines Hydroconquest at 39mm delivers everything but HAQ:


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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Certina DS Action at 41mm has a 'Precidrive' HAQ and a choice of dial finishes, bracelet &c. I've owned a Certina quartz diver, and it was a fantastic watch - the finishing is exceptional, it's by no means a compromise watch.






    Longines Hydroconquest at 39mm delivers everything but HAQ:


    Like that Certina. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxdiver View Post
    What about the PRS18A COSC version? 40mm and HAQ.

    That’s a very good call.

    I must admit I do have one of these that I bought from the forum very recently, it’s a fantastic watch.

    Really I’m looking to replace my Sinn with a diver type HAQ watch, one without the hassle of sending to Germany for a battery change in the future.

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    Breitling a74380 Colt ii superquartz at 41mm is a good choice if you can find one.Battery life is about 7 years in these. I have the stratos silver version .
    Last edited by silver centurian; 15th January 2022 at 11:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    Not a diver but GS SBGX341 is pretty cool and has 200m WR







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    Or the black dial, SBGX343

    https://imgur.com/K3i8hst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Yes that’s the Seiko I was talking about, are they hard to get hold of, not made anymore I think?
    Production ended around 2010. They pop up used from time to time. The perpetual calendar is very nice to have. Together with the very long battery life and high accuracy, in a country (such as Japan) where there is no DST, it makes for a very easy watch to own. The red text doesn’t hurt either.

    Here's mine…



    Another boredom phase recently led to me reducing the collection, including my Submariner 14060. I find this Seiko entirely acceptable in its place. Like the Rolex, it just does the job, albeit in a different way. It's probably rarer too.

    Note that the accuracy of 20 seconds a year is specified “when used on the wrist approximately 12 hours a day, at normal temperature range (5° C ~ 35° C)”. Which is more than fine for anyone outside of a specialist watch forum, but if you leave it in the watch box, expect up to +-4 seconds a month (Seiko's figures).

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    A little over your preferred size at 42mm but the GS SBGX117 is rather lovely:


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    Quote Originally Posted by silver centurian View Post
    Breitling a74380 Colt ii superquartz at 41mm is a good choice if you can find one.Battery life is about 7 years in these. I have the stratos silver version .
    Quote Originally Posted by frp422 View Post
    Or the black dial, SBGX343

    https://imgur.com/K3i8hst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Tokei View Post
    Production ended around 2010. They pop up used from time to time. The perpetual calendar is very nice to have. Together with the very long battery life and high accuracy, in a country (such as Japan) where there is no DST, it makes for a very easy watch to own. The red text doesn’t hurt either.

    Here's mine…



    Another boredom phase recently led to me reducing the collection, including my Submariner 14060. I find this Seiko entirely acceptable in its place. Like the Rolex, it just does the job, albeit in a different way. It's probably rarer too.

    Note that the accuracy of 20 seconds a year is specified “when used on the wrist approximately 12 hours a day, at normal temperature range (5° C ~ 35° C)”. Which is more than fine for anyone outside of a specialist watch forum, but if you leave it in the watch box, expect up to +-4 seconds a month (Seiko's figures).

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    Very good suggestions guys thank you.

    The colt looks very nice, there’s a few on Chrono 24.

    Really like the look of the perpetual calendar Seiko, problem is finding one I suppose.

    Thank you everyone.

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    Not a diver, but the GS sport 9f Quartz GMT SBGN003.



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    For quartz divers, it is hard to ignore Scurfa's range.
    They may not be HAQ, but all quartz are very accurate, and Scurfas are excellent value.
    I have the Ti non-date version, love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcoat View Post
    The Seiko SBCM023 might be an option as it’s sized at 39mm and the 8F35 movement is apparently accurate to 20 seconds per year.
    Well 20 seconds was the rating when new, unfortunately crystals tend to drift over time. Now these movements have a circuit you can "punch" for a one-time correction but it's tricky and there's a good chance of killing your watch in the process !

    My SBCM023 is still like new, I need to put a new battery in someday ;-)

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    I think this Wempe is a great looking watch. 40mm, HAQ and 100m WR. It’s also available in a 36mm version and blue or while dials.


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    That reminds me what about the Bell & Ross Demineur? Not HAQ I guess but meets the 40mm requirement and I think they look rather cool ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by tertius View Post
    That reminds me what about the Bell & Ross Demineur? Not HAQ I guess but meets the 40mm requirement and I think they look rather cool ...



    (Image from the web)
    Or the Hydromax. Same 40mm and oil filled like the Sinn UX. I regret not picking up a NOS white dial version some years back for a bargain price.

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    Thanks guys for all the suggestions, some really lovely watches to research here.

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    These are lovely except for two pieces of dial text I don’t think I could live with:



    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    I think this Wempe is a great looking watch. 40mm, HAQ and 100m WR. It’s also available in a 36mm version and blue or while dials.


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    40mm HAQ quartz diver or tool watch?

    Marathon TSAR is a high torque quartz?
    Just a smidge under 40mm tritium dial and hands
    Not often seen in the wild

    Last edited by Sinnlover; 16th January 2022 at 14:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    These are lovely except for two pieces of dial text I don’t think I could live with:

    When these were first released I thought the same about the name but the reasoning behind why they are called ‘Iron Walker’ makes it a bit more tolerable. The German spelling ‘Quarz’ despite everything else being English is ok with me though. I really like the 36mm version.

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    Here is one which is 40 mm to the crown and there are not too many white faced divers. It is not seen that often but they do crop up for sale in Japan sometimes.









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    It's not a diver, but maybe an older 40mm Aerospace? I've heard Breitling can replace the movement with their superquartz movement. They have to replace the caseback too since the movement is a little thicker. I'm not a fan of most Breitling watches, but the older Aerospaces look pretty nice:

    Last edited by chrysogonus; 17th January 2022 at 00:55.

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    I recommended this earlier in the thread. Granted it’s more sport than tool watch but it got me looking into it. One thing lead to another and it’s on my wrist today.



    It’s 36mm with the same base HAQ movement that’s in the Omega Aqua Terra. Comfortable, has great AR, 100m WR and great case finishing. I’m glad I went for it. I can even live with the ‘Iron Walker’ name on the dial and the German spelling of quartz despite everything else being in English. The text is obviously a lot less obvious when wearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    I recommended this earlier in the thread. Granted it’s more sport than tool watch but it got me looking into it. One thing lead to another and it’s on my wrist today.



    It’s 36mm with the same base HAQ movement that’s in the Omega Aqua Terra. Comfortable, has great AR, 100m WR and great case finishing. I’m glad I went for it. I can even live with the ‘Iron Walker’ name on the dial and the German spelling of quartz despite everything else being in English. The text is obviously a lot less obvious when wearing.

    Thank you, that does look lovely. Just trying to sell my Sinn UX and I’ll definitely be on the hunt for a new HAQ. 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    I recommended this earlier in the thread. Granted it’s more sport than tool watch but it got me looking into it. One thing lead to another and it’s on my wrist today.



    It’s 36mm with the same base HAQ movement that’s in the Omega Aqua Terra. Comfortable, has great AR, 100m WR and great case finishing. I’m glad I went for it. I can even live with the ‘Iron Walker’ name on the dial and the German spelling of quartz despite everything else being in English. The text is obviously a lot less obvious when wearing.
    It does look rather lovely 😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post

    I agree with the other comments it does look lovely.

    Out of curiosity what size is your wrist?
    Last edited by boring_sandwich; 27th January 2022 at 11:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysogonus View Post
    It's not a diver, but maybe an older 40mm Aerospace? I've heard Breitling can replace the movement with their superquartz movement. They have to replace the caseback too since the movement is a little thicker. I'm not a fan of most Breitling watches, but the older Aerospaces look pretty nice:
    Agreed, I have an E65062 40mm with the upgraded SQ B79 movement, a pic showing the revised caseback and front shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    I agree with the other comments it does look lovely.

    Out of curiosity what size is your wrist?
    A tad over 6” and around 50mm across the top, so the 36mm works really well. The bracelet doesn’t have any micro adjustments but does come with full and half links so I’ve managed to get a really good fit. The screwed links help with adjustment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    A tad over 6” and around 50mm across the top, so the 36mm works really well. The bracelet doesn’t have any micro adjustments but does come with full and half links so I’ve managed to get a really good fit. The screwed links help with adjustment!
    How's the bracelet overall?
    I fancy a modest size sports watch and would like a good quality integrated bracelet but it seems they are quite hard to come by. Something like the level Monta are putting out i.e not much in it with an Oyster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazie! View Post
    How's the bracelet overall?
    I fancy a modest size sports watch and would like a good quality integrated bracelet but it seems they are quite hard to come by. Something like the level Monta are putting out i.e not much in it with an Oyster.
    I think it’s excellent. It’s obviously not a thick and heavy affair but still a solid and well made bracelet. Taper seems to be from 20mm to 17mm. It suits the watch perfectly. Mainly brushed with slightly chamfered polished edges which is a lovely touch. Nice solid clasp too and the screwed links make it very easy to resize. Most importantly it’s very comfortable.

    I have read that some people find it difficult to get a good fit due to the lack of micro adjustments but the half links help. Thankfully I’ve managed to get a great fit. Overall I’m very pleased with it. Even the little touches like matching colour date wheel and using the same silver print for the date and logo etc make a difference. I wish other brands would incorporate this more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    I think it’s excellent. It’s obviously not a thick and heavy affair but still a solid and well made bracelet. Taper seems to be from 20mm to 17mm. It suits the watch perfectly. Mainly brushed with slightly chamfered polished edges which is a lovely touch. Nice solid clasp too and the screwed links make it very easy to resize. Most importantly it’s very comfortable.

    I have read that some people find it difficult to get a good fit due to the lack of micro adjustments but the half links help. Thankfully I’ve managed to get a great fit. Overall I’m very pleased with it. Even the little touches like matching colour date wheel and using the same silver print for the date and logo etc make a difference. I wish other brands would incorporate this more!
    Thanks for the info. What is the rough size of the dial? Hard to gauge just how well the 36mm would size - The 40mm just looks far too big in images for my taste but not sure if this would then be the opposite. The dimensions of the 40 would seem about right though.
    Last edited by Kamakazie!; 27th January 2022 at 11:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazie! View Post
    Thanks for the info. What is the rough size of the dial? Hard to gauge just how well the 36mm would size - The 40mm just looks far too big in images for my taste but not sure if this would then be the opposite. The dimensions of the 40 would seem about right though.
    Dial including chapter ring is around 28mm. It wears bigger than my Tag Heuer 2000 classic (38.5mm) but I guess that’s to be expected as it doesn’t have the diver bezel. I do like smaller watches in general so this is perfect for me and on my tiny wrist (about 6.1”) it certainly doesn’t look like a small watch. The clasp is quite short on the 36mm version so if you have bigger hands I would try one first, although the guy in the review below has a bigger wrist than me as was able to wear it!

    He reviews here in Swedish but some good photos and he also gives an English review on WUS:

    https://klocksnack.se/threads/wempe-...p-info.133104/

    https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/a...there.5320478/

    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    It reminds me of the VC Overseas.
    Absolutely, although I actually prefer the simpler bezel, matching date wheel and crown guards of the Wempe. Having said that if anyone has a VC that they would like to do a straight swap for I could be tempted
    Last edited by Mr Tetley; 27th January 2022 at 12:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    Dial including chapter ring is around 28mm. It wears bigger than my Tag Heuer 2000 classic (38.5mm) but I guess that’s to be expected as it doesn’t have the diver bezel. I do like smaller watches in general so this is perfect for me and on my tiny wrist (about 6.1”) it certainly doesn’t look like a small watch. The clasp is quite short on the 36mm version so if you have bigger hands I would try one first, although the guy in the review below has a bigger wrist than me as was able to wear it!

    He reviews here in Swedish but some good photos and he also gives an English review on WUS:
    Thanks, the 36 looks like a great size in those Swedish reviews but in the WUS link it doesn't look much bigger than an OP34 which is odd. One to try on first if I get the opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazie! View Post
    Thanks, the 36 looks like a great size in those Swedish reviews but in the WUS link it doesn't look much bigger than an OP34 which is odd. One to try on first if I get the opportunity.
    Yes I also noticed that re:OP34 before mine arrived. I think the integrated bracelet definitely helps with the overall look on the wrist and on mine it’s certainly not too small by any means. Of course, YMMV!

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    Breitling Aerospace Titanium 40mm, 100m rating, thermo compensated SuperQuartz.
    That ticks all the boxes.

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    Absolutely a top watch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Really like the look of the perpetual calendar Seiko, problem is finding one I suppose.
    I had a look on Yahoo Auctions, where (as JDM) they appear from time to time. A very nice NOS example just sold for ¥155,000, almost exactly £1000. These were about ¥25,000 when new (~£160). To be fair, non-mint examples fetch less.

    Mine off the bracelet #gratuitous




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