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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    This bike think is worse than watch collecting. Just put a de posit down for next year delivery on CCM Super Tracker. Roll on Spring 2022

    https://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/conf...treet-tracker/
    They look great. If I didn't have the Cafe Racer I'd be sorely tempted.

    Be prepared for the delivery date to go back a few times though.
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    Got a day of work today, and no jobs to do! Heading down to Poole to see a mate for lunch so a lovely 5ish hour round trip planned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Aye the extras can add up, the Blackout is £9k but I may spec it with the first package which is £999 but if you add all the bits up individually I think it comes to £1400 or £1500 for the first package?


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    Extras I’d definitely recommend:
    Optimate wired in at the factory - makes it a lot easier (it’s pretty tight under the seat and the battery isn’t easy to get at) and CCM don’t charge a premium for the charger.
    Adjustable foot levers - reach is weird on the standard gear lever.
    Radiator cover - it’s pretty exposed.
    Adjustable reach hand levers (if they’re not standard already)
    Circular bar end mirrors - the standard ones are crap
    Sprocket cover - feels a bit exposed otherwise.
    Air filter cover - people have had issues with the filter getting wet, this helps to avoid that
    Stage 1 remap - doesn’t do a lot for peak power but smoothes things out throughout the range, highly recommended.

    If you’re going to be doing a lot of motorway miles consider the 38t sprocket.

    Everything else is to your personal taste.

    It’s a fantastic bike! (But take delivery lead times with a pinch of salt)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Extras I’d definitely recommend:
    Optimate wired in at the factory - makes it a lot easier (it’s pretty tight under the seat and the battery isn’t easy to get at) and CCM don’t charge a premium for the charger.
    Adjustable foot levers - reach is weird on the standard gear lever.
    Radiator cover - it’s pretty exposed.
    Adjustable reach hand levers (if they’re not standard already)
    Circular bar end mirrors - the standard ones are crap
    Sprocket cover - feels a bit exposed otherwise.
    Air filter cover - people have had issues with the filter getting wet, this helps to avoid that
    Stage 1 remap - doesn’t do a lot for peak power but smoothes things out throughout the range, highly recommended.

    If you’re going to be doing a lot of motorway miles consider the 38t sprocket.

    Everything else is to your personal taste.

    It’s a fantastic bike! (But take delivery lead times with a pinch of salt)
    Thanks for that, I’m thinking about driving down to CCM maybe next week to have a look and finally decide what extras.

    They did say aiming for the end of the year with the bike but to be honest as long as it’s ready for the nice weather next year I’ll be happy.

    I won’t be doing any (not planned motorway miles) but I’m intrigued about the remap option. Mine will be for midweek/Sunday jollies around the places I live maybe an hour or two away max.

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    You do wonder why they don’t do the stage one as standard if it’s not a performance upgrade; why sell a bike with a suboptimal map in the first place when it wouldn’t actually cost them anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    You do wonder why they don’t do the stage one as standard if it’s not a performance upgrade; why sell a bike with a suboptimal map in the first place when it wouldn’t actually cost them anything?
    I suspect the stock map is tweaked for the drive by noise regulations - most bikes have a dip engineered in to make them quieter at the specific speed. The stage one will take that out

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    Very capable and very clever.



    But can I have my Bonneville back now please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    You do wonder why they don’t do the stage one as standard if it’s not a performance upgrade; why sell a bike with a suboptimal map in the first place when it wouldn’t actually cost them anything?
    most standard bike maps these days are just for emission control

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Extras I’d definitely recommend:
    I'll just add to Pete's list by suggesting the Fly screen. Does nothing worth talking about in terms of reduced wind blast, but it does help keep the front of the clocks clean.
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    It feels like we need a TZ CCM meet next spring when all these shiny new bikes have been delivered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Very capable and very clever.



    But can I have my Bonneville back now please?
    ....my thoughts too. Probably the best current adventure bike, but as I'm not planning on setting off on a world tour anytime soon I think I'll stick with lovely Scrambler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    It feels like we need a TZ CCM meet next spring when all these shiny new bikes have been delivered!
    As long as it’s not too far to travel haha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Very capable and very clever.



    But can I have my Bonneville back now please?
    Quote Originally Posted by skmark View Post
    ....my thoughts too. Probably the best current adventure bike, but as I'm not planning on setting off on a world tour anytime soon I think I'll stick with lovely Scrambler.
    Well, I have to say that I’m in love with mine. I’ve just ridden 80 miles to Whitstable on it, and I was no less comfortable when I got there than when I set off. It’s a wonderful machine.

    I did wonder if I should go by car instead with the uncertainty around fuel availability, but having had a Freddy Trott special first thing this morning I thought it would be rude not to take it. Anyway, 20 miles from Whitstable I managed to fill the tank again, and the dash is telling me I now have 240 miles worth of fuel. That means I can ride around without stressing, at least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skmark View Post
    ....my thoughts too. Probably the best current adventure bike, but as I'm not planning on setting off on a world tour anytime soon I think I'll stick with lovely Scrambler.
    I think you are blinkered by the ‘genre’ you think it sits in, rather than what it is actually used for by all its riders - very successfully.

    Plenty being used for holidaying to, and scratching round the UK and European Cols - but not many Scramblers, from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    I think you are blinkered by the ‘genre’ you think it sits in, rather than what it is actually used for by all its riders - very successfully.

    Plenty being used for holidaying to, and scratching round the UK and European Cols - but not many Scramblers, from my experience.
    Just about any bike can do any job these days if you want it to. Granted, different bikes are better at different things and some bikes are better all rounders but a Scrambler wouldn’t be left behind on a tour bug an adventure bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Just about any bike can do any job these days if you want it to. Granted, different bikes are better at different things and some bikes are better all rounders but a Scrambler wouldn’t be left behind on a tour bug an adventure bike.
    Actually I think that was more true yesteryear than it is today: the bike you had was the one you used, whether your ride took you to a country lane in Wales or in the Highlands, your local off licence or your Mediterranean holiday.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

  17. #11417
    Quote Originally Posted by skmark View Post
    I've got one of those too. Totally agree it's the perfect summer compromise......I love mine.

    Can that be worn with glasses? I suspect it might be a faff with the googles but am curious if it would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skmark View Post
    ....my thoughts too. Probably the best current adventure bike, but as I'm not planning on setting off on a world tour anytime soon I think I'll stick with lovely Scrambler.
    The more I've ridden it, the more I've come to appreciate its abilities and am happy to say that it's a very fine motorcycle indeed.

    The riding position is spot on. The seat is surprisingly comfortable and the suspension is nice and compliant. The engine has more than enough grunt and can propel the bike to pretty reasonable speeds. The screen and fairing work exceptionally well, far better than expected. The heated seat is a treat as are the handlebars and there's more tech and buttons than on a space shuttle. The tank capacity and consumption means that you've got an excellent range too; ideal for weekends away when you're unsure about the availability of petrol.

    I could happily see myself jumping on one and riding to Italy, just as I did on my last Tiger.

    However when I got off the main roads onto the damp back roads that I had to contend with today the bike the bike seemed overly high and heavy and intent on lighting the dash up like a Christmas tree at the slightest provocation.

    It does feel like an excellent middle ground between a number of genres; but for me it's a bit too compromised for the sort of riding I'm enjoying at the moment - the Street Scrambler falls far short of the Tiger GT Pro is every measurable way, but I want to get back on it and play.

    And that's what's important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    I think you are blinkered by the ‘genre’ you think it sits in, rather than what it is actually used for by all its riders - very successfully.

    Plenty being used for holidaying to, and scratching round the UK and European Cols - but not many Scramblers, from my experience.
    Apologies if my comments came across poorly. I love the look of the new Tiger GT Pro and Adventure Bikes in general. Not only that but I think of Tony as a friend and not just another bod on a forum so would not diss his machine for a moment.

    However, as has been said by others, most bikes can do most things these days.....they've just become more 'specialised'. Like cycling......I'm lucky enough to have a road bike, an MTB and a gravel bike, but if I'm honest I could get by most of the time with just one. I'm not fortunate to have more than one motorbike however.

    Therefore as with most things its all about how it makes you feel. I've done the adventure bike thing before when I though I was Charlie and Ewan but these days I kid myself I'm more like Steve McQueen.......that's my choice it doesn't make me right or wrong or anyone else right or wrong either. We're lucky to have these choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skmark View Post
    Apologies if my comments came across poorly. I love the look of the new Tiger GT Pro and Adventure Bikes in general. Not only that but I think of Tony as a friend and not just another bod on a forum so would not diss his machine for a moment.

    However, as has been said by others, most bikes can do most things these days.....they've just become more 'specialised'. Like cycling......I'm lucky enough to have a road bike, an MTB and a gravel bike, but if I'm honest I could get by most of the time with just one. I'm not fortunate to have more than one motorbike however.

    Therefore as with most things its all about how it makes you feel. I've done the adventure bike thing before when I though I was Charlie and Ewan but these days I kid myself I'm more like Steve McQueen.......that's my choice it doesn't make me right or wrong or anyone else right or wrong either. We're lucky to have these choices.
    There was nothing even remotely offensive in your previous comment, Mark, and I completely understand where you’re coming from. Bikes are incredibly personal things and it really is a case of different strokes for different folks.

    For me, I regard the Tiger as a kind of soft landing into the genre. It’s not stupidly big so it suits us shorter lot, but it’s very, very capable. It offers me a different kind of relationship with both the bike and the road, and I’m loving it. I do miss the Thruxton and also feel the pull of the heritage bikes that Triumph do so well. I can’t see myself not having the Tiger in any future I envisage, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samswatch View Post
    Can that be worn with glasses? I suspect it might be a faff with the googles but am curious if it would work.
    I don’t see why not. The aperture is massive so accommodates proper big goggles (I use Barstow 100%) which will in turn accommodate glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    There was nothing even remotely offensive in your previous comment, Mark, and I completely understand where you’re coming from. Bikes are incredibly personal things and it really is a case of different strokes for different folks.

    For me, I regard the Tiger as a kind of soft landing into the genre. It’s not stupidly big so it suits us shorter lot, but it’s very, very capable. It offers me a different kind of relationship with both the bike and the road, and I’m loving it. I do miss the Thruxton and also feel the pull of the heritage bikes that Triumph do so well. I can’t see myself not having the Tiger in any future I envisage, though.
    What you need is a TR6C. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    What you need is a TR6C. ;-)
    Actually, Matt, what I needed was a garage to keep both the Thruxton and the Tiger in. Had I not taken such an awful financial hit due to COVID that’s what I’d have right now. Bloody annoying, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Extras I’d definitely recommend:
    Optimate wired in at the factory - makes it a lot easier (it’s pretty tight under the seat and the battery isn’t easy to get at) and CCM don’t charge a premium for the charger.
    Adjustable foot levers - reach is weird on the standard gear lever.
    Radiator cover - it’s pretty exposed.
    Adjustable reach hand levers (if they’re not standard already)
    Circular bar end mirrors - the standard ones are crap
    Sprocket cover - feels a bit exposed otherwise.
    Air filter cover - people have had issues with the filter getting wet, this helps to avoid that
    Stage 1 remap - doesn’t do a lot for peak power but smoothes things out throughout the range, highly recommended.

    If you’re going to be doing a lot of motorway miles consider the 38t sprocket.

    Everything else is to your personal taste.


    It’s a fantastic bike! (But take delivery lead times with a pinch of salt)
    Really appreciate your post, I was wondering what to order. I won’t go mad but some of your points are spot on and have added to my order already

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    Afternoon spent in a van today dropping the trackbike off for Estoril in 2 weeks, can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    Really appreciate your post, I was wondering what to order. I won’t go mad but some of your points are spot on and have added to my order already
    One of the many things to like about CCM is that they’ll happily add components during service, and they generally don’t charge labour to do so, so you can easily add or change the configuration as you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Actually, Matt, what I needed was a garage to keep both the Thruxton and the Tiger in. Had I not taken such an awful financial hit due to COVID that’s what I’d have right now. Bloody annoying, really.
    Sorry for the tone deaf levity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Oh and I'm meeting up with my brother tomorrow for a brew on the other side of the Peak District and the weather forecast is good...
    Met him in Ashbourne so for those who know the roads, I took the ER6F...

    From Macc to Buxton over the Cat&Fiddle
    From Buxton I used the smaller roads that run (sort of) parallel to the A515 through Longnor, Stearndale etc to Ashbourne.
    On the way home it was:
    A515 Ashbourne to Buxton - pretty quickly tagged onto a group of 4 bikes (actually I think it was 3+1) for some spirited riding/making progress
    Long Hill to Whaley - had it to myself in glorious late afternoon light
    Whaley to Macc - straight into the the setting sun. It's a good job I can drive/ride/cycle that road with my eyes closed because I virtually was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Sorry for the tone deaf levity.
    Blame me. Everyone else does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Met him in Ashbourne so for those who know the roads, I took the ER6F...

    From Macc to Buxton over the Cat&Fiddle
    From Buxton I used the smaller roads that run (sort of) parallel to the A515 through Longnor, Stearndale etc to Ashbourne.
    On the way home it was:
    A515 Ashbourne to Buxton - pretty quickly tagged onto a group of 4 bikes (actually I think it was 3+1) for some spirited riding/making progress
    Long Hill to Whaley - had it to myself in glorious late afternoon light
    Whaley to Macc - straight into the the setting sun. It's a good job I can drive/ride/cycle that road with my eyes closed because I virtually was.
    Sounds like a ride to massage the soul.

    I’m really sorry to hear what’s been going on with Mrs MCH. Sending you all best wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    One of the many things to like about CCM is that they’ll happily add components during service, and they generally don’t charge labour to do so, so you can easily add or change the configuration as you go.
    Good to know. Re service, do you have to go to Bolton for every service ? Complete forgot asking about the servicing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    Good to know. Re service, do you have to go to Bolton for every service ? Complete forgot asking about the servicing.
    They come to you via their mobile service units.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    They come to you via their mobile service units.


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    Yep, it’s brilliant. The mechanics are excellent as well.

    Just make sure you let them know if any specific requirements beforehand so they can make sure they’ve got the parts on the van.

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    After 17 years of no garage at my previous home I finally have a toybox again. I've waited far too long to be able to get back to tinkering with the bikes under cover, as well as the luxury of being able to strip off the soaking layers before entering the house after riding in the wet.

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    new bike day initial impressions after doing around 80 miles

    good points : its better than my 11 plate speed triple in just about every way (power , flickability , cruise control etc etc )
    bad point : standard seat (after 80 miles my arse is broke)

    first upgrade will be a comfort seat


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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    new bike day initial impressions after doing around 80 miles

    good points : its better than my 11 plate speed triple in just about every way (power , flickability , cruise control etc etc )
    bad point : standard seat (after 80 miles my arse is broke)

    first upgrade will be a comfort seat

    Beautiful looking altogether. Have to name it the bumblebee with that colour scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    new bike day initial impressions after doing around 80 miles

    good points : its better than my 11 plate speed triple in just about every way (power , flickability , cruise control etc etc )
    bad point : standard seat (after 80 miles my arse is broke)

    first upgrade will be a comfort seat

    Absolute beast , wow Im jealous, cross plane crank, exhaust howls like a howling thing and the horizon butts you in the face its that quick!
    Love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thewatchbloke View Post
    After 17 years of no garage at my previous home I finally have a toybox again. I've waited far too long to be able to get back to tinkering with the bikes under cover, as well as the luxury of being able to strip off the soaking layers before entering the house after riding in the wet.

    Heaven!


    Know the feeling. When we moved to here and I had a double detached garage it was the best thing! (now I wish I had two!)
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    new bike day initial impressions after doing around 80 miles

    good points : its better than my 11 plate speed triple in just about every way (power , flickability , cruise control etc etc )
    bad point : standard seat (after 80 miles my arse is broke)

    first upgrade will be a comfort seat

    Really like those.

    Yellow rear wheel is going to need lots of cleaning or it will look awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    new bike day initial impressions after doing around 80 miles

    good points : its better than my 11 plate speed triple in just about every way (power , flickability , cruise control etc etc )
    bad point : standard seat (after 80 miles my arse is broke)

    first upgrade will be a comfort seat

    Apart from the uncomfortable seat how is the actual seating position, are your arms and back comfortable after 80 mile?s I'm quite taken with the new MT10's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thewatchbloke View Post
    Apart from the uncomfortable seat how is the actual seating position, are your arms and back comfortable after 80 mile?s I'm quite taken with the new MT10's!
    riding position is great , no pins and needles in hands, no bad back - its like sitting in an arm chair , once i get the comfort seat fitted i reckon i'll have no problem riding this for 2+hrs at a time without a break.
    the engine is mental compared to the speed triple , it will happily lift the front wheel off the floor in 3/4th gear at 3 figure speeds - handling wise its also better at cournering than the 11 plate speed i had.

    ... think of a sofa fited to a BMX with a lunatic engine and that pretty much it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy tims View Post
    Really like those.

    Yellow rear wheel is going to need lots of cleaning or it will look awful.
    You're not wrong there!

    I have the Mt09 in this colourway and the wheels are always a disgrace.

    Any tips on how to clean them quickly and keep them clean for longer would be much appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigweb View Post
    You're not wrong there!

    I have the Mt09 in this colourway and the wheels are always a disgrace.

    Any tips on how to clean them quickly and keep them clean for longer would be much appreciated!
    https://www.louis-moto.co.uk/artikel...umber=10017602 might help (110 links for the 09, 114 links for the 10)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    https://www.louis-moto.co.uk/artikel...umber=10017602 might help (110 links for the 09, 114 links for the 10)
    Not quite getting that, Ian. It all sounded brilliant until I got to the bit that said:

    Clean and re-lubricate the chain:

    • after washing the motorbike
    • after a ride in wet and/or salty or dusty conditions
    So, where does the maintenance free bit come in, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Not quite getting that, Ian. It all sounded brilliant until I got to the bit that said:

    So, where does the maintenance free bit come in, then?
    Odd that it says that on the website as the manufacturer says it doesn't need it

    https://www.reginachain.net/wp-conte..._PUBLISHED.pdf

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    Just had a run out to a local garage as they have a CCM for sale, the quality up close looks unreal and what a eye catching bike.





    But I was a little concerned to see this on the laquered frame on a bike with 11 miles?




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    that welding is shocking , never mind the rusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigweb View Post
    You're not wrong there!

    I have the Mt09 in this colourway and the wheels are always a disgrace.

    Any tips on how to clean them quickly and keep them clean for longer would be much appreciated!
    i'll clean these the same way as every other bike ive owned , i use dry chain lube but if the back wheel looks sticky i just spray wd40 on a rag and wipe it round (wd40 removes gunk in seconds)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    i'll clean these the same way as every other bike ive owned , i use dry chain lube but if the back wheel looks sticky i just spray wd40 on a rag and wipe it round (wd40 removes gunk in seconds)
    Gunk will remove the chain lube from the wheel too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Just had a run out to a local garage as they have a CCM for sale, the quality up close looks unreal and what a eye catching bike.





    But I was a little concerned to see this on the laquered frame on a bike with 11 miles?




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    As you say (pugster) shocking welding…if you’re going to lacquer it to show it off, it needs to be good.(and not Rusty)
    Better welding and then nickel plating would make all the difference.
    I saw a used one in ocean bmw in Plymouth last month, it had deteriorated very badly.
    I’d love to ride one,
    And hope the new owners enjoy them.
    Last edited by GOAT; 11th October 2021 at 16:47.

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