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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej View Post
    I am so glad that you do not ride 54's....
    Whilst 56 is my perfect Road (Spesh) size I’m actually riding a medium MTB, bike geo is but a guide, personally I find the 58 looks lanky and 54 looks squat but dont have the same aesthetics on a MTB. Weird innit, can make them all fit as have rode 54, 56, and 58 in the past plus had 4 pro bike fits (all of which came out with different measurements lol)

    I’m thinking that I love my SL4 so much I might strip it and have the frame mounted as an ornament
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Such a shame we dont have a UK manufacturing plant for frames as bespoke (custom) builds would be a real winner in the market rather than having to have the manufacturers designs. I know this exists with top end frames but seeing it trickle down would be amazing albeit not great for the main manufacturers profits as often when you look at component parts of a bike you realise where the margins are
    But the investment in formers/dies/moulds is huge, that’s why you don’t see 1cm increments in sizes.
    The Taiwanese have this process down to an art and will always be cheaper than anything built in the U.K.
    As you say there is plenty of good custom geo carbon in Europe, you just need 3k plus for a frame.

    Personally I would rather have a tube to tube jointed carbon from the likes of Casati, Formigli, Legend etc than something popped out of a mould from one of the big brands for similar money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
    But the investment in formers/dies/moulds is huge, that’s why you don’t see 1cm increments in sizes.
    The Taiwanese have this process down to an art and will always be cheaper than anything built in the U.K.
    As you say there is plenty of good custom geo carbon in Europe, you just need 3k plus for a frame.

    Personally I would rather have a tube to tube jointed carbon from the likes of Casati, Formigli, Legend etc than something popped out of a mould from one of the big brands for similar money.
    Yeah I get its not practical but just think it would be super cool to be able to chose a raw frame and then chose paint job and wheels and components etc as part of a slick and affordable process which it will never be mainstream
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    That’s where custom hand-welded titanium frames come in, isn’t it ;)

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    Until they crack...

    ...yes I'm still bitter

    But it did allow me to get a custom plastic frame via selling my warranty replacement Ti frame so all good overall!

    I still fancy a Burls Ti frame for a winter bike so I'm not entirely put off.

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    Or even better modern lightweight stainless steel (953)........like a Rourke?

    I'm lucky to own one and also a Carbon bike......and it still makes me laugh that we persist with calling them carbon fibre when they are actually carbon fibre reinforced resin. I guess having a plastic bike doesn't do much for the marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Whilst 56 is my perfect Road (Spesh) size I’m actually riding a medium MTB, bike geo is but a guide, personally I find the 58 looks lanky and 54 looks squat but dont have the same aesthetics on a MTB. Weird innit, can make them all fit as have rode 54, 56, and 58 in the past plus had 4 pro bike fits (all of which came out with different measurements lol)
    I’m thinking that I love my SL4 so much I might strip it and have the frame mounted as an ornament
    There is an old book I have got called Bike Porn, which has a lot of Specialised bikes in it https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bike-Porn-1.../dp/1849534810

    My first carbon bike was a Specialised (Allez Epic??), which I used for the first ever UK Ironman, plus world long distance tri championships in Nice.

    MTB I ride a 17" medium. At 176 cm my Canyon Ultimate is a medium, and very comfortable, though their tables show I should be on a small. My Argon 18 E114 is also a medium (previous owner nearly 6'), but whilst I have gone down a size to 52cm (one of the first Vitus 979 - god that flexed under power), never up to a 56cm.

    Anyway, more importantly, first West London Combine TT on the 4th April, 25 miles, followed by duathlons at Bedford and Windsor the following weekends - hoorah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej View Post
    There is an old book I have got called Bike Porn, which has a lot of Specialised bikes in it https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bike-Porn-1.../dp/1849534810

    My first carbon bike was a Specialised (Allez Epic??), which I used for the first ever UK Ironman, plus world long distance tri championships in Nice.

    MTB I ride a 17" medium. At 176 cm my Canyon Ultimate is a medium, and very comfortable, though their tables show I should be on a small. My Argon 18 E114 is also a medium (previous owner nearly 6'), but whilst I have gone down a size to 52cm (one of the first Vitus 979 - god that flexed under power), never up to a 56cm.

    Anyway, more importantly, first West London Combine TT on the 4th April, 25 miles, followed by duathlons at Bedford and Windsor the following weekends - hoorah.
    If you fancy riding the Downs link Way one day from Guildford to Shoreham on Sea and back let me know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondurant View Post
    Until they crack...

    ...yes I'm still bitter

    But it did allow me to get a custom plastic frame via selling my warranty replacement Ti frame so all good overall!

    I still fancy a Burls Ti frame for a winter bike so I'm not entirely put off.
    The joy of my Titanium Croix de fer gravel bike is finding new routes , then getting my carbon ( resin) bike out and smashing all my pbs on said gravel routes. Childish I know but it doesnt half motivate me getting 25 pbs on a ride.

    Dont Ribble do a custom paint option on their current bikes? They did when I bought my 653 Colombus frame from them, I chose the Duetsche Telecom purple colours. I loved that bike and sold it for peanuts, probably the most comfortable ride for a 150/200k ride that I have ever owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Yes and a good sponsor, to be fair I also cant resist a bargain if anyone is selling
    Nice, sponsor? Are you a pro rider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    If you fancy riding the Downs link Way one day from Guildford to Shoreham on Sea and back let me know
    Could do - perhaps with a few others as well from the TZ cycle group?

    Whilst British Cycling says we will be able go out in groups of 15, our club has decided to limit it to 6, and still no club kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    If you fancy riding the Downs link Way one day from Guildford to Shoreham on Sea and back let me know
    That's a nice ride, fish and chips on the beach, yum.

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    New bike time for me, Yay. But I have a question:

    Has anyone any experience of mrp suspension forks before I hit the buy button, though? Reason I ask is that I’ve been obsessing over an on one scandal 29er with GX Eagle. All the rave reviews seem to have been done by riders when the Rockshox 35 were the suspension option. I just spotted the spec has changed now to MRP Ravens as I went to hit the buy button and now I’m hesitating. £1400 is a lot of money for me on a non watch related purchase.

    Doing some googling reveals either terrible reviews or fantastic reviews for the fork above it in the range, the MRP Ribbon. Last serious MTBs I’ve bought (a while back now) and Fox, Rockshox or Pace RC35 (remember them!) were the only really acceptable options.

    One thing I do like about the MRPs is I can easily find all the service manuals and spares online so I can do my own servicing, something I’ve missed since those old Pace forks.

    Any advice most gratefully received. My wife is going to go nuts if I spend any more time obsessing over this :-)

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    TZ Cycling/Bike Appreciation thread!

    Not helpful to you Nick, but I still love my RC35s!!



    (As you can probably imagine, I’m not much help when it comes to modern gear!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Not helpful to you Nick, but I still love my RC35s!!



    (As you can probably imagine, I’m not much help when it comes to modern gear!)
    Brings back memories - so easy to service. Reminds me where my bike upgraditus and obsession with carbon started as I also got some rc36s for no real reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickGaters View Post
    New bike time for me, Yay. But I have a question:

    Has anyone any experience of mrp suspension forks before I hit the buy button, though? Reason I ask is that I’ve been obsessing over an on one scandal 29er with GX Eagle. All the rave reviews seem to have been done by riders when the Rockshox 35 were the suspension option. I just spotted the spec has changed now to MRP Ravens as I went to hit the buy button and now I’m hesitating. £1400 is a lot of money for me on a non watch related purchase.

    Doing some googling reveals either terrible reviews or fantastic reviews for the fork above it in the range, the MRP Ribbon. Last serious MTBs I’ve bought (a while back now) and Fox, Rockshox or Pace RC35 (remember them!) were the only really acceptable options.

    One thing I do like about the MRPs is I can easily find all the service manuals and spares online so I can do my own servicing, something I’ve missed since those old Pace forks.

    Any advice most gratefully received. My wife is going to go nuts if I spend any more time obsessing over this :-)
    They get a nit of a hammering in a BikeRadar review. Give Planet X a ring and see if you can change the spec, might cost a little bit more though.

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    Bit, not nit🙄

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
    They get a nit of a hammering in a BikeRadar review. Give Planet X a ring and see if you can change the spec, might cost a little bit more though.
    I think that’s the same review that put me off. Trouble is £1400 was the absolute max I wanted to spend so any more kills it for me really. I’d initially almost decided on the fully rigid On One Whippet, but I fancied going up to GX Eagle, so I’ve already had 400 quid budget creep.

    Sadly there’s no Planet X vouchers out there at the moment or I might have been able to stump up the extra cash. But I suppose with the current mania for cycling there’s no need for any manufacturer to offer an incentive.

    There’s also not a lot of second hand bargains out there for the same reason.

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    Just having a quick look at the reviews, it looks like the Bikeradar review's biggest problem was with the damper in the MRP Ribbon forks. My knowledge of suspension forks isn't the deepest, but the variable damper in the more expensive fork appears to be the cause of its unpredictable nature. It means you don't need volume spacers inside the forks in order to increase the progression / support (the spacers reduce the amount of air in the chamber so it needs more force to compress and stops is bottoming out as easily) and can adjust the sensitivity on the trail rather than having to take the fork apart.

    The cheaper Ravens (which the Planet X bike has) doesn't have the fancy Ramp Control system settling for using volume spacers to achieve a similar effect.

    In short the fork reviewed by Bikeradar is significantly different to the one on the Scandal so I wouldn't necessarily base your decision on that. That said, I've never ridden them but there are more favourable reviews of the Ravens out there. My guess is that Planet X have landed a job lot of MRP forks at cost so that's why they're speccing them - doesn't make them a bad fork but at full retail they don't look like best vfm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meesterbond View Post
    Just having a quick look at the reviews, it looks like the Bikeradar review's biggest problem was with the damper in the MRP Ribbon forks. My knowledge of suspension forks isn't the deepest, but the variable damper in the more expensive fork appears to be the cause of its unpredictable nature. It means you don't need volume spacers inside the forks in order to increase the progression / support (the spacers reduce the amount of air in the chamber so it needs more force to compress and stops is bottoming out as easily) and can adjust the sensitivity on the trail rather than having to take the fork apart.

    The cheaper Ravens (which the Planet X bike has) doesn't have the fancy Ramp Control system settling for using volume spacers to achieve a similar effect.

    In short the fork reviewed by Bikeradar is significantly different to the one on the Scandal so I wouldn't necessarily base your decision on that. That said, I've never ridden them but there are more favourable reviews of the Ravens out there. My guess is that Planet X have landed a job lot of MRP forks at cost so that's why they're speccing them - doesn't make them a bad fork but at full retail they don't look like best vfm.
    Yeah I was amazed at what their RRP is. But RRP is not always a great indicator of quality.

    Think I’m at the point now of just ordering is as. Aside from the questionable forks, there’s nothing out there that’s available with GX and decent value/weight. As I’ve just been out for a blast on my wife’s bike, complete with ultra budget Suntour XCR forks, I’m sure the MRPs must be better than that. Worst case scenario at least I’ll end up with a decent frame set & groupset that’ll make it worth upgrading forks in the future.

    Thanks all for the enabling/advice :-)

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    I'm sure the Raven's will be fine. Just invest a bit of time getting them dialled in and you'll be good.

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    Unless you're hitting hard trails with decent jumps etc I'm sure the forks will be fine. As you said, you can always upgrade in the future👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meesterbond View Post
    I'm sure the Raven's will be fine. Just invest a bit of time getting them dialled in and you'll be good.
    Need to find my decent fork pump in th garage somewhere now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
    Unless you're hitting hard trails with decent jumps etc I'm sure the forks will be fine. As you said, you can always upgrade in the future
    Exactly. Now ordered and paid for. On the bright side it means I stop lusting after that Oris Aquis in SC now and spending money on bike tools instead. Can’t wait. Great time of the year to get a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickGaters View Post
    Brings back memories - so easy to service. Reminds me where my bike upgraditus and obsession with carbon started as I also got some rc36s for no real reason.
    Nick back in the 90’s I used to compete in the the Polaris challenge. This was a two day mtb orienteering event with an overnight tent/ camp. One year the winners of the lads and dads class were given Pace Suspension forks as a prize. Im sure even then they were £700 a pop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Not helpful to you Nick, but I still love my RC35s!!



    (As you can probably imagine, I’m not much help when it comes to modern gear!)
    Nice KHS. You and me a like....garage full ( over 10) of retros.
    All last century. RC35 in the collection and RC36 on my Orange Vitamin-T. First gen SIDs...noodles but super light on others. The majority are AMP Research on AMP frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    Nick back in the 90’s I used to compete in the the Polaris challenge. This was a two day mtb orienteering event with an overnight tent/ camp. One year the winners of the lads and dads class were given Pace Suspension forks as a prize. Im sure even then they were £700 a pop.
    Steve
    That’s pretty hardcore, I remember reading about the Polaris events in the MTB mags at the time.

    In a staggering case of stupidity and spending money in the wrong area I bought the RC36 and put on my Rockhopper that came on rigid forks - the whole bike (pre RC36 forks) only cost £500 at the time. A lot of my disposable cash at the time went to Bike Scene in Guisborough and Stif in Leeds.

    Then again, back in 96 or 97 you used to get a decent groupset on a £500 quid bike! It was a mix of LX and XT.

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    Well, that’s as good an excuse as any to post a few more pics :D

    ‘92 KHS Montaña Team
    Original XTR groupset
    Original Bontrager rims
    Original Flite titanium saddle
    It’s been my only bike for nearly 30 years until last year.
    Must’ve done well over 50,000 miles on it, commuting, trails, never put a foot wrong.
    Trail tyres of choice were Panaracer Smoke Lite 2.1

    I bought it off the strength of a review in MBUK magazine. They reviewed the Comp, which was the XT equipped version, and the one I ordered, for £800.
    But a shipment of Comps all got nicked at the docks, and as a goodwill gesture the bike shop, Edwardes of Camberwell (anyone remember them?) gave me the XTR Team, price £1200, for no extra!




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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    Well, that’s as good an excuse as any to post a few more pics :D

    ‘92 KHS Montaña Team
    Original XTR groupset
    Original Bontrager rims
    Original Flite titanium saddle
    It’s been my only bike for nearly 30 years until last year.
    Must’ve done well over 50,000 miles on it, commuting, trails, never put a foot wrong.
    Trail tyres of choice were Panaracer Smoke Lite 2.1

    I bought it off the strength of a review in MBUK magazine. They reviewed the Comp, which was the XT equipped version, and the one I ordered, for £800.
    But a shipment of Comps all got nicked at the docks, and as a goodwill gesture the bike shop, Edwardes of Camberwell (anyone remember them?) gave me the XTR Team, price £1200, for no extra!



    Lovely. Great story...enjoy for another 50k.

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    Posh cantilever brakes behind the fork brace , even more opportunity for the mud to build up and stop your ride!

    Happy days

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    Most of the mud is on the downtube long before it ever gets into that area. Have to be pretty extreme conditions to clog that at all.
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    It’s funny, now that we all have disc brakes everyone talks about how you can’t possibly use anything else in mud.
    Ten years ago no one had disc brakes, but we still had plenty of mud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeOfCheese View Post
    It’s funny, now that we all have disc brakes everyone talks about how you can’t possibly use anything else in mud.
    Ten years ago no one had disc brakes, but we still had plenty of mud!
    And no one rides in the mud. The bikes are so expensive and no one wants to clean then so we are all indoors on Zwift on the bad weather days
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    And no one rides in the mud. The bikes are so expensive and no one wants to clean then so we are all indoors on Zwift on the bad weather days
    Im even worse than that. I bought a bike at the beginning of lockdown last year. It’s done several thousand miles and never even touched the ground! The rear wheel’s never even turned, and the brake discs have never touched the pads.

    Admittedly it’s a cheapo Boardman I got at half price for the turbo, before bike shops realised they could charge top dollar for any old knacker in lockdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Most of the mud is on the downtube long before it ever gets into that area. Have to be pretty extreme conditions to clog that at all.
    Nope Kerry we are talking real heavy mud , dragged up by the Panaracer Smokes. I had Magura Hydraulic rim brakes on my Orange MTB. Fixed calipers hardly any clearance. Ive ridden when the front wheel has locked solid and the back end was just fish tailing around. Then its stop find a stick and push all the mud back under the fork brace, under the fork crown and away.

    And you tell that today to the disk riding youngsters “and the never believe you” :):):):

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    Nope Kerry we are talking real heavy mud , dragged up by the Panaracer Smokes. I had Magura Hydraulic rim brakes on my Orange MTB. Fixed calipers hardly any clearance. Ive ridden when the front wheel has locked solid and the back end was just fish tailing around. Then its stop find a stick and push all the mud back under the fork brace, under the fork crown and away.

    And you tell that today to the disk riding youngsters “and the never believe you” :):):):

    Steve
    I remember those Maguras, they had very little clearance with the brace.

    In truth, I do remember having to stop to clear the mud more than a few times, but I seem to remember it being a good excuse to take a break from the slog of trying to swim through treacle :)

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    So many "innovations" over the years. I've been cycling for nearly 50 years. 1st decent bike was a Carlton Clubman, Reynolds 531 frame with Stronglight, Suntour, Mafac, Campag, 10speed 52/42. Pedalled down to Lands End from Durham in 1977 on that, a little 5 day jaunt. Then I built it with progressively more modern 12/14/16 speed double Campag kit.

    Lands End . . .




    Next all of the kit went on to a lovely 531C frame I found in the corner of a local bike shop, filthy and covered in stickers, but the investment cast bottom bracket and lovely lug work gave it's quality away. Suitably renovated and built up . . .





    Then along came MTBs. First a Halfords Carrera with full XT in a sale, changed the forks for Kona P2s and converted it to 8 speed with some XTR added and Suntour XC Pro thumbies. All of this kit went on a steel Kona Cindercone frame along with Pace front suspension for a while, then along came a Kona Hei-Hei titanium frame. After a while the Pace forks were changed for Pace rigid carbon forks, and that's where the Kona is now. Rigid, XTR V brakes, 8 speed triple with 11-28 cassette / 22-32-44 up front.





    Then for £65 a steel Bianchi winter/turbo bike, 7 speed Shimano double with 8 speed Campag Ergos.




    Then along came the luxury of just buying a bike complete, no spanners involved. Felt turbo/wet/winter bike with 9 speed Sora, Rose RS Pro3000, 11 speed Ultegra, triple butted alloy frame, upgraded wheels to Campag Zondas, a few bits changed to Hope for a little colour.







    Only the Kona, Rose and Felt remain now, but all of these bikes had/have one thing in common. There's no substitute for time on the bike and miles in the legs. That said, that Kona is a beautiful light ride, and the 7.3kg Rose puts a smile on my face every time I go up one of Durham's many looong hills!
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    I've a couple of off road bikes but nowadays manage just the one 20-30 miles ride on road at the weekend due to other commitments. I'm currently riding a Genesis Equilibrium with 105 but have been pondering an upgrade to something like a Diverge, ultegra and hydro discs for a while so if anyone has anything similar in a 58cm (ett c580mm) then send me a pm .

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    great post Magirus! I like the tourer at Lands End the best - I should say the Felt as I have two of them, an F1 and a disc FR2.

    It is great that you have been enjoying your bikes for the last 50 years and untold miles.. I sometimes feel a bit sad that I only took up road cycling (after being a m/cyclist since I was 17), when I hit forty and I'm fifty six now..
    going to head out for a spin, seems likes there's no wind atm :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    Nope Kerry we are talking real heavy mud , dragged up by the Panaracer Smokes. I had Magura Hydraulic rim brakeson my Orange MTB. Fixed calipers hardly any clearance. Ive ridden when the front wheel has locked solid and the back end was just fish tailing around. Then its stop find a stick and push all the mud back under the fork brace, under the fork crown and away.

    And you tell that today to the disk riding youngsters “and the never believe you” :):):):

    Steve
    That was a failing of Magura HS33



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    A quick clean, bolted on the top tube Apirdura, bottom bottle cage and pumped up the tyres. Didn't have time to clean the chain. Company half day tomorrow so hoping to pop out at/after lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    A quick clean, bolted on the top tube Apirdura, bottom bottle cage and pumped up the tyres. Didn't have time to clean the chain. Company half day tomorrow so hoping to pop out at/after lunch.
    Whats in all those pouches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Whats in all those pouches?
    Lol ... that’s exactly what I was wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Whats in all those pouches?
    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Lol ... that’s exactly what I was wondering.
    Saddle bag is coming off but I ran out of time at lunch. I'm a bit paranoid the rear light isn't visible enough so I'm taking it off and putting the light higher up. Lower bottle cage thing allows me to do this.

    I have a spare inner tube and tools in the bottom bottle cage thing and the top tube bag will be for snacks/keys/phone so I don't have anything in my pockets. I'm far from an athlete so need a few rest stops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    And no one rides in the mud. The bikes are so expensive and no one wants to clean then so we are all indoors on Zwift on the bad weather days
    Not all of us (I know I've posted this before but can't resist...)



    So much hoping CX racing starts again this year...

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    ^^^ that's why 'cross is best on the telly !

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    Quote Originally Posted by bry nylon View Post
    ^^^ that's why 'cross is best on the telly !
    Nah, nose diving endlessly into mud is the best way to spend a Sunday morning

    Luckily I have an "assistant" to clean the bike afterwards...

    (That particular race was hard, lots of running and adverse cambers with no grip, a mate who is at the pointy end of things in Vet 40s crashed and broke his ribs, end of season for him...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    A quick clean, bolted on the top tube Apirdura, bottom bottle cage and pumped up the tyres. Didn't have time to clean the chain. Company half day tomorrow so hoping to pop out at/after lunch
    What Spesh is that? Looks like a useful machine. How do you find the 1x11 for normal tarmac road speeds and do you find the gap between gears any more of an issue than if you had a double?

    (I have the smaller version of that top tube bag).

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    After using my Rockhopper on trails/towpaths for the last 3yrs I've now been tempted into road biking by a friend at work..

    I'll keep the RH as I'm planning on completing the TPT this year once restrictions ease. Ordered the 2021 spesh Allez Sport yesterday, currently on a 2 week lead time so I've got chance to change my mind!
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    Allez sport is a great choice. Sora groupset works better than it has any right to at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Si View Post
    What Spesh is that? Looks like a useful machine. How do you find the 1x11 for normal tarmac road speeds and do you find the gap between gears any more of an issue than if you had a double?

    (I have the smaller version of that top tube bag).
    Hey it's the 2021 Diverge Base Carbon bought last year. It was meant to be white but the colour is really weird.

    1x11 is ok but you can be found wanting when going downhill and trying to go faster. I wanted the simplicity of 1x and overall I'm happy with it. Same as most bikes though, I'm only using two or three gears unless I'm going up a big hill and need first so I never really explore all 11.

    I can always change the cassette but doubt I will.

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