Just to be clear - I was talking about *terminology* and language not making a direct comparison of the act.
There is a very strong push from counterfeiters to push a language (replica, trusted dealer etc) and build communities that normalise what they do by mirroring the language we use on watch collector sites (I have spend enough time on them for professional reasons as some members know).
It's why we should not use replica and always stick to fake.
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Not looking for a public flogging. However, TTC is probably as well known for moaning about money, selling expensive handbags and designer jeans.
I recall a thread where he was going to give up a car because of expensive repair costs so it was odd that he posted a “Explorer” on the Friday thread. I was surprised no one did comment and we will never know if he would have owned up to a fake at that point.
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It also raises the issue of whether, given his well self publicised financial position, the expensive handbags, clothes and shoes he sells here are also fakes.
I’ve always questioned why he has these expensive items for sale on a regular basis whilst constantly pleading poverty.
I’d donate £20 to the fundraiser if OP sticks it in the sales section.
(Joking before someone gets angry, imagine that thread)
Just read some of that TMS/Vicky thread, but sacked it off through exasperation halfway through - he/she was so rude, irritating and up their own backside, and some of the sycophancy that seemed to surround them was cringe. Did the validity of that watch ever get confirmed one way or the other, or did they just leave in a huff?
Yeah that’s the one, the AD loaning someone a £22k watch while they wait for the balance of a purchased one. And all the “oh yeah I might get round to picking it up today if I have time after getting my hair done and buying an LV...” Come on. And I could take clearer pictures than she did using my kids toy camera!
I always wonder why SC is treated as an all-comers bootfair - esp. given its borderline unmoderated status - surely there are more than enough online marketplaces already? At least if it's watch-only it makes it easier to manage the p-takers. Eddie clearly has better things to do than be forever rapping knuckles.
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Useful thread, mind - I've been considering a Panerai recently, but given they're a bit "Marmite" looks and size-wise, plus most models seem to be a good place to lose some money, I'd considered the notion of trying a sterile dial fake first to see how it looks and wears. This thread has certainly bought me back to my senses! It's easy to forget that every penny spent with the fakers is helping them make more and better fakes.
By way of atonement for this thought-crime, I'll also chip-in £20 to the Smash It With A Hammer Fund if TTC does the decent
Reading that thread is like a “right of passage” for membership here. It was just before my time too but it’s eternal; people will still be referencing it when we’re all dead and buried!
Eddie’s post HERE is pertinent
(PS smiling about the ‘at least on the watch parts’ comment!)
I remember Steve telling me he came close to being caught out when tai my shu was peddling fakes at the same time the dodgy watch thread was running, but she was banned I think and then him too, so the story never came out.
It was a story that kept on giving...loan watches, helicopter trips to Monaco, custard powder all centred around a WG Sub.
Closely followed by dawson2k who arrived here gained a bit of a following, flipped thousand pound watches every other day, always talked about joining the army, had a brief board invasion from people on another forum calling him out, sold a hooky iPhone and departed as swiftly as he arrived, later turning out to have a strange sexual interest in domination and 'breath-play'.
Yes, I did - about ten years ago, I think. I wanted to see if anyone noticed that it wasn't real. It didn't arouse the slightest suspicion or negative comment, despite being a pretty good photo of a fairly inexpensive watch (about £90 if memory serves). And if I hadn't stated that it was a replica (a day or two later I think) I doubt that the slightest controversy would have been provoked.
I think that would probably be the case for the OP too, if he hadn't started this thread.
Interesting experiment. Well remembered!
Something which you will always be able to bank on: Start a thread about fake watches and five minutes later monofaker will show up.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
Women being rare on most hobby-type forums, you always have a nauseating amount of "M'lady-ing" from sad, lonely, middle-aged males when someone claiming to be female rocks-up.
The hifi forums I used to frequent were especially bad - hilariously, all but one were eventually outed as being other sad, lonely, middle-aged men LARPing as women for attention-whoring purposes.
TMS eventually went on to sell her Rolex on "Dickinson's Real Deal" I think.
Apart from all the Terry Thomasing (ooh I say, ding dong) that went on, the other amusing thing I remember is that when someone puts a watch on Ebay with a back story along the lines of 'my uncle gave me this Rolex, took it off a bloke in part-ex against his Range Rover' oh how we laugh. But when a receptionist in a tattoo parlour talks about dropping 20 or 30 grand in a day on watches, well of course it must be true and suggesting it might not be kosher was just envy or sour grapes (according to her knight-errants).
Sadly Rolex prices will be their downfall, would sooner wear a Tuna or Sharkey than wear a fake Rolex, and genuine Rolexes too expensive to risk marring or being robbed.
Anyone off to the chippy tonight?
Re the Tai Mi Shu baloney, as soon as I saw the username I smelled a very large rat. As I recall there was also something about flying to Monte Carlo in a helicopter, as well as the Sub nonsense. In fact that undiscovered tribe deep in the Congo called me to ask about it. ;-)
F.T.F.A.
I (and probably other relative newbies) love it when these stinky old skeletons get dragged out of the venerable TZ cupboards.
TMS was before my time, but end up reading it about every 12 months when it reappears.
It was such a strange time, wishing I’d seen the TMS followers in the lead up to this & understood more of the history, but still a cracking read.
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I once worked a very male environment, weeks/months would pass without a female walking through the workshop..
On the rare occasion a lady would walk though no matter how attractive/unattractive she was the guys would stop working and basically perv!
If she was an attractive office girl in her 20’s I almost felt scared for her.. Blokes!!
Not the only post you edited today:
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...=1#post5576009
Which obviously tickled my curiosity what was so special about this one that it needed editing three weeks later?
Well, a little sleuthing and it turns out this is what the post looked like before today's edit (time is CET):
Seems like he posted this with a picture on 3 November, but returned a few hours later to remove the picture link and then again today to replace the post altogether. A Panerai Base model, you say. Has to be original, because:
Sure. Over to Possu.
Didn’t he say his brother was looking for one ?
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He said that his brother owned a fake PAM, not a Base model though.
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...ahem-)-Panerai
Nobody gets anything past Raffe online. This fake thread is the gift that keeps on giving.
TTC needs to post as he is very quiet
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You are correct:
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...-at-Goldsmiths
Could be the one - but why delete the picture within hours of posting and then go back and edit the whole post three weeks later - at the same time as deleting a picture of a fake?
Bit inconclusive.
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