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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    the person that leaves the lights on will still leave the lights on regardless.
    You've clearly met my wife.

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    When I looked into a while back smart meters didn’t transfer between companies to say npower fit one and you switch to British Gas a year later the smart meter is effectively useless you need a different one fitting or back to just reading the meter. I’m not sure if they’ve standardised it now or not but that was my main gripe when I almost had one fitted a couple of years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootneck View Post
    When I looked into a while back smart meters didn’t transfer between companies to say npower fit one and you switch to British Gas a year later the smart meter is effectively useless you need a different one fitting or back to just reading the meter. I’m not sure if they’ve standardised it now or not but that was my main gripe when I almost had one fitted a couple of years back.
    Gen 1 Smart Meters were as you descibed. Gen 2 became available earlier this year and are now transferrable.

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    Seems like they’re over that hurdle

    https://flipper.community/posts/smar...u-need-to-know

    However using your data to sell you things and selling that data on to others doesn’t sit right I’m not sure why it bothers me but it just doesn’t sit right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skier View Post
    Gen 1 Smart Meters were as you descibed. Gen 2 became available earlier this year and are now transferrable.
    Beat me to it lol cheers

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    My parents have had a Smart meter installed when they moved house around a year ago. They’re very happy with it. No more estimated readings. No more meter readers coming round.

    They get accurate bills and they can check anytime what they have spent on their energy.

    Not sure what there is to be unhappy about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungfupanda View Post
    My parents have had a Smart meter installed when they moved house around a year ago. They’re very happy with it. No more estimated readings. No more meter readers coming round.

    They get accurate bills and they can check anytime what they have spent on their energy.

    Not sure what there is to be unhappy about.
    Dynamic billing. With more and more people switching to electric cars the government is losing money due to electric cars not being subject to RFL and not requiring petrol or diesel.
    With smart meters installed it’s monitored what the energy is being used on and I guess it would be fairly straight forward to come up with a system where energy for vehicle charging can be taxed at a higher rate as petrol and diesel is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytip View Post
    Dynamic billing. With more and more people switching to electric cars the government is losing money due to electric cars not being subject to RFL and not requiring petrol or diesel.
    With smart meters installed it’s monitored what the energy is being used on and I guess it would be fairly straight forward to come up with a system where energy for vehicle charging can be taxed at a higher rate as petrol and diesel is now.
    I think you have completely missed the point.

    Currently, usage is just that - ours is high due to an AGA and a hot tub, no differentiation on what used what - we just pay a lot per month. Electric vehicles and RFL is nothing to do with smart meters.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytip View Post
    Dynamic billing. With more and more people switching to electric cars the government is losing money due to electric cars not being subject to RFL and not requiring petrol or diesel.
    With smart meters installed it’s monitored what the energy is being used on and I guess it would be fairly straight forward to come up with a system where energy for vehicle charging can be taxed at a higher rate as petrol and diesel is now.
    I’m sure a Smart meter isn’t smart enough to differentiate what the power is used on.

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    Had a smart meter fitted a couple of months ago as there was a (very) minor ussue with the old dumb one and because ultimately it was inevitable and it saves me sending readings each month via the Bulb website (we only have electricity, no gas) - hardly a chore I know. It has to be one of the most ill-conceived government initiatives that forces expenditure by the electricity companies and, therefore, ultimately the consumers. This cost is currently estimated at £11Bn which means it will probably be over £15Bn by the time it's complete. The smart display is a complete waste of time and now sits unused in a draw. How much has it saved us or changed behaviours? Zero to both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    You've clearly met my wife.
    And my kids

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    We have had one for 12 months now I don’t have a problem with it, it’s not as it costs any more .

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    You've clearly met my wife.
    What is it with women and leaving lights on EVERYWHERE even in rooms they aren’t using. Seriously!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    They are not being pushed to help you.

    They are being pushed in order to introduce variable tariffs. Once people have accepted them in sufficient numbers, peak usage periods such as breakfast time, dinner time, overnight EV charging etc. will incur additional costs.

    Coupled with the proposed removal of the UK domestic gas supplies/grid, electricity will rocket in price.

    To be avoided, imho.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Our contract ( just signed) is for 2 years - none of your bollocks is included in our paperwork.
    The clue is in... "Once people have accepted them in sufficient numbers,". When they reach that point they can set tariffs which are dependent on having said meters. 'Want a good tariff? Have our smart meter'
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    The clue is in... "Once people have accepted them in sufficient numbers,". When they reach that point they can set tariffs which are dependent on having said meters. 'Want a good tariff? Have our smart meter'
    I'll repeat my question above. "Can you link to any reputable evidence for your statements?" Scaremongering and conspiracy theories without evidence are BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skier View Post
    I'll repeat my question above. "Can you link to any reputable evidence for your statements?" Scaremongering and conspiracy theories without evidence are BS.
    It's a prediction, nobody said it was in force at the moment, which was fairly obvious. However with the increasing concern about energy usage it's not unreasonable to think smart meters will be put forward as a tool to help reduce it. and become more commonplace if not mandatory.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    It's a prediction, nobody said it was in force at the moment, which was fairly obvious. However with the increasing concern about energy usage it's not unreasonable to think smart meters will be put forward as a tool to help reduce it. and become more commonplace if not mandatory.
    Some common sense at last!

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