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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3949 View Post
    Still no response - so looks like it will be Ebay refunding me.
    Bear in mind it's the weekend now. I forget how long eBay gives sellers to issue a refund after getting goods back but I'd have thought that nothing can/will happen until the weekend is over.

    Quote Originally Posted by tom3949 View Post
    I wonder what the legal position will be with this. Someone who has goods returned because they were not as described and who has then kept the money that was paid for those goods. Is this fraud?
    It's only been a few days, nothing like long enough to allege fraud as yet. It's all just a civil matter as things stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Bear in mind it's the weekend now. I forget how long eBay gives sellers to issue a refund after getting goods back but I'd have thought that nothing can/will happen until the weekend is over.



    It's only been a few days, nothing like long enough to allege fraud as yet. It's all just a civil matter as things stand.
    I know.

    Communications with him were not a problem when I was buying the watch ...

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    Can you name them? In one post you mentioned you thought it might be someone on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Can you name them? In one post you mentioned you thought it might be someone on here.
    The seller was easy enough to find on ebay but the OP didn't want to name them until he received a refund.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3949 View Post
    Probably trying to see if there is any mark he can pin on me! :o)

    Or working out why he advertised it as 'unworn' and 'as new' when the case back obviously had signs of wear - and a lack of a serial number!

    Still no response - so looks like it will be Ebay refunding me.

    I wonder what the legal position will be with this. Someone who has goods returned because they were not as described and who has then kept the money that was paid for those goods. Is this fraud?
    eBay will debit his account for the refund don’t worry about that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Can you name them? In one post you mentioned you thought it might be someone on here.
    i don't want to mention any names until I have this sorted out. There may be a genuine reason for the current total lack of response to my communications. Some members have already located the transaction and so know the Ebay identity of the seller, (and he appears to have a flawless history). However, if there isn't a genuine reason for all of this and basically a fraud is being committed against me then I will certainly name and shame. I believed he was a member here because he mentioned Eddie's name in one of his communications - however it turns out he is actually a member of the Rolex forum. As soon as this is all sorted I will post the outcome - but still ongoing at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    eBay will debit his account for the refund don’t worry about that!
    I certainly hope so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3949 View Post
    Communications with him were not a problem when I was buying the watch ...
    Ah yes. :-/

    All the same, don't worry. It's annoying that he has your money and watch but it will all get sorted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Ah yes. :-/

    All the same, don't worry. It's annoying that he has your money and watch but it will all get sorted out.
    Cheers Mark. You're right - it's very frustrating.

    However I drove a Ferrari, an Aston Martin and a Lamborghini around 3 sisters this morning, (birthday present from the wife), so that helped relieve the stress a little ... :o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3949 View Post
    However I drove a Ferrari, an Aston Martin and a Lamborghini around 3 sisters this morning, (birthday present from the wife), so that helped relieve the stress a little ... :o)


    Happy birthday! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post


    Happy birthday! :-)
    It was back in March!!!

    :o)

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    Oh well, better late than never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Oh well, better late than never.
    :o)

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    Just received this from the seller:

    Hi Tom

    I am away for weekend. But have had neighbours collect parcel.
    You will be refunded by Sunday evening no problem.
    Thanks for message about serial no’s.... does not sound ideal!!

    Sounds good - but given the circumstances you would have thought that a quick check on the status of this would have been in order ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3949 View Post
    Just received this from the seller:

    Hi Tom

    I am away for weekend. But have had neighbours collect parcel.
    You will be refunded by Sunday evening no problem.
    Thanks for message about serial no’s.... does not sound ideal!!

    Sounds good - but given the circumstances you would have thought that a quick check on the status of this would have been in order ...
    Phew. Let's hope refund arrives on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Phew. Let's hope refund arrives on time.
    Yep - I've got my fingers crossed!

    Nothing yet.

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    ... and I can now end this quite stressful tale, (for me in any case). as I have now received a full refund - Hallelujah!

    As it turns out the seller was totally on the level, as suggested by his impeccable Ebay history, but he just put me through the wringer by failing to tell me he was going away and not replying to my communications for a few days, (when both cash and watch were in his possession).

    All hopefully now sorted, and I have a PRS-21 incoming today! (I am going to leave LLD ownership on hold for a little while now).

    :o)

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    One last parting shot on this thread for all owners of Legend Divers out there - check that the case back discloses a serial number. According to Longines all LLDs should disclose one, and as in my case, if you can't see one there is likely to be an issue with the provenance of the watch.

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    Excellent, glad you got your money back. And glad that the seller was legit. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Excellent, glad you got your money back. And glad that the seller was legit. :-)
    So am I Mark - and as he turned out to be legit I won't be naming.

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    Glad all sorted but is he really legit - did he know of watch issues? Could well be stolen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Glad all sorted but is he really legit - did he know of watch issues? Could well be stolen.
    I know - but I like to see the best in people. Everything pointed to him being legitimate; Ebay history, communications, speaking to him over the phone, the fact that he has a clock restoration business, (which I came across on-line), etc. It may be his 'source' who needs to be scrutinised. He told me he had returned the watch himself and his 'source' was more than happy with that. I suppose the main issue is advertising a watch 'as new' when the case back clearly indicated otherwise. I should have been more vigilant and picked up on that from the pictures before moving forward - but we all live and learn!

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