I'm assuming that "Oliver" refers to OliverCD but I'll take it or at least share it with him!
It's hard work begging watches off Eddie and then having to wear them . . . .
Great work Oliver! I can’t wait till the expedition goes on sale. I love the who vintage style of it
I'm assuming that "Oliver" refers to OliverCD but I'll take it or at least share it with him!
It's hard work begging watches off Eddie and then having to wear them . . . .
You have to already own a Timefactors watch to get one. Holding back warranty cards. Where will it end?
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Timekeeping is at +8 secs a day, not bad for a new movement. I'm expecting it will be even better once it's run-in and settled down a bit.
I think I need to keep this one on long-term test.
The old Smiths are delighted to see their grandchild. Well, all except Morrissey. He said the face isn't white enough . . . .
Norwegian flag strap, bit late for the 17th of May or maybe early for next year?
(Couldn't quite manage to catch the light on the blued steel hands so you'll just have to imagine it.)
Apologies for the q&d iPhone pics
I'm pretty sure that is the Tibetan name. Which is completely appropriate as Mallory and Irvine summitted first from Tibet. ;-) However from Nepal, the approach taken by Hunt, it's called Sagarmatha which sounds far less romantic to me. As Eddie has already used 'Everest' we could use 'George'.
He's buried in Hove, actually.
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SmithS Hill-ary
First off all, wanted to say hello as this is my first post on here. I've been looking for an Explorer style watch for a while. Not a fan of the current Rolex model and not ready for vintage. I was also mulling over the Tudor North Flag, but it is a tiny bit too big for me. My searches eventually led me to Time Factors and I really like the Explorer, although would prefer something that was a little less of a homage.
I was planning to buy the Everest later this Summer but the Exhibition looks like a lovely watch and has me intrigued. That said I am only really interested in a watch with a black dial at the moment. Is there any plans to do another version, an Expedition size dial with Everest colouring. I'm thinking of something like the Tudor Ranger, but with the vintage size and the Smiths design queues.
Feel free to tell me if this should be in its own thread.
There has been no mention of a black dial Expedition so far.
Have you taken a look at the PRS29a?
The PRS29a is a nice looking watch. I'd prefer a bracelet, but I suppose I could always swaps out the NATO.
I stumbled upon this forum in search of information about the prs-29am. And then i fell in love with this gem. What a wonderful watch, the casesize, the color of the dial and hands, just perfect!
I knew within a second that i had to order one, can't wait until it is released. Great job Eddie!
Is it on a faux rivet bracelet?
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Its interesting to compare the Everest and 29a side by side. The milky ring doesnt seem so impactive on the 29a's dial.
I have an "old" 29a with acrylic crystal so thankfully no "milky ring issues" there. Most people seem to have an aversion to acrylic but I think the Everest would look much better and more vintage looking with an acrylic crystal.
A 36mm watch is already quite small. Using a crystal that makes it look like it is 34 or even 33mm is not a good thing imo.
I have several watches with sapphire crystals which do not have the "milky ring" problem so it is specific to the type of sapphire crystal used.
I wanted this to have acrylic but now I've worn it for a couple of weeks sapphire is the right choice with this dial, practically and aesthetically.
The only things I would change on the pre-production prototype are the size of the text (the lower three lines more so than the De Luxe script) and the bracelet and, as it happens, those are the only two changes being made.
I think it is the most perfect new (or modern) watch I have ever worn. Nothing else has had wrist time and I only take it off to try different strap combinations. I did try wondering "is the seconds hand the right colour?" and "are the numbers too small?" and "is the background of the dial too white or too creamy?" etc etc but really there is nothing I would change. I like better the the longer I wear it, it's more and more prefect (if that can be possible).
A joy to wear and no worriers about scratches, WR, winding etc etc.
I think most of it that it's just not a bracelet-y kind of watch. The ensemble looks a bit . . . cheap Seiko.
That said, I do like the retro faux rivet look and the fact it doesn't weigh a ton but I don't like 1.) the way it didn't stay reliably shut until I fettled it by bending the tab on the clasp over, to give a tighter, more positive click action 2.) the end links and 3.) the finish on the springbar holes -- not the visible side end but the channels on the inside -- rough machining marks looked a bit primitive.
I know that points 1.) and 2.) -- which are the most important -- will be changed in the final version. I wore it on the bracelet for a couple of days it was OK but I'm not really a fan of the old metal bands (except Led Zeppelin ha ha) and even when I do wear one it's one it's always and only on watches that suit it; this one, imho, doesn't.
But with the new improved bracelet my concerns, such as they are, will be rectified and you fans of stainless steel will be very happy.
This is really a watch for perlon or brown leather imho but I guess Eddie would daft not to include a steel band (wide range of reggae and calypso standards also covers of current and classic pop; now taking bookings for weddings, fetes and the Notting Hill Carnival).
On a brown perlon it looks Hillary-tastic, like a Series 1 Land Rover with a modern common-rail turbo diesel, ABS, traction control and close-ration 9-speed automatic gear box. Truly the best of both worlds.
"Everest, Work & Play -- with the new Smiths De Luxe, only from Time Factors"
I think that a generic, non rivet, oyster style might be preferable. The 'faux' element of the rivet version kind of puts my off anyway.
Even better, a genuine Bonklip might look and feel good. Im currently wearing my 29a on a Staybrite Bonklip (manufactured in England by BHS & Sons) and it compliments the vintage style of the watch in my view whilst being light and very comfy.
+1 for how (surprisingly) comfortable and elegant the right sized Bonklip is but I am with RevO..... it's a brown, non padded strap watch.
I have a 34mm Seamaster and a 35mm Conquest and the Everest looks smaller on wrist than the Conquest. But maybe it's just me, I can't unsee the "milky ring effect" anymore.
Although ... there are several pics on the forum comparing the Everest directly to a 1016. The Everest definitely looks smaller ... at least to my eyes.
There's also a comparison of the Expedition to the 33mm original in this thread and they almost look the same size, Rev-O even likes it because of the smaller appearance.
Here's a side by side of my Everest and 29a
Both 36mm, both with milky rings. Which looks bigger?
Well, the 29a of course. Small differences in dial and case design can have a big effect. For this reason I think that the Expedition may wear a little larger in the flesh.
Interesting to note that the milky ring doesn't seem as obvious on the 29a. Im wearing it as I type this and glancing down I can hardly see it.
The 29a, but it's not just the milky ring effect. The dial of the 29a is 29mm (if I'm not mistaken) vs the Everest's dial at 27 or 28mm. Also, the 29a's crystal has a diameter of 31,5mm vs the Everest's 30,4mm. The dial of a 1016 is 29mm so that's also 1 or 2mm bigger than the Everest's. 1 or 2mm can make a big difference in appearance.
Sorry, instead of quoting the exact differences I simply put 'slight differences in dial and case design'
Its amazing the difference a couple of mm can make.
The milky ring doesn't really do the standard Everest any favours as regards being as close as you can get to a 1016. On the Expedition, I suspect its an asset - making the whole thing closer to the vintage De Lux than it wold have been with acrylic.
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The milky ring is much less of an issue on the light-dialled De Luxe than on the Everest (and I have handled them both. I suspect the same applies to the PRS-29 Air Ministry as that too has the "vintage" off-white dial although whether it has the same profile sapphire as the De Luxe and/or Everest I don't know.)
As I said before I initially wanted the De Luxe to have plexiglass / acrylic but, trust me, the sapphire is the right choice.
Damn I love this watch and am dreading the day when I have to send it back. (I did threaten to get "To My Good Friend Oliver, Regards, Eddie Platts" engraved on the back. The suggestion was not as well-received as I had hoped.)
Having compared the 29a and AM side by side I think that the milky ring looks about the same - far less obtrusive than the Everest.
I am really looking forward to the Expedition.
I really wanted this watch, but the second hand kills it for me. I've the 29AM, so know what the blueing is like, and just can't get my head around the high quality of blueing Eddie gets, coupled with such a cheap looking second hand.
Perhaps you are not old enough to appreciate red/orange seconds hands. They were all the rage back in the '50s... where this model is rooted.
Some v q&d iPhone pics
old Phoenix NATO ("circumcised" -- under-strap flap cut off)
Eulit "Panama"
Eulit "Palma"
Wrist shots to follow.
Buy this watch!