Looks interesting,
But it's not grabbing me.
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"Well they would say that ... wouldn't they!"
Looks interesting,
But it's not grabbing me.
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Interesting move, like the dial - very classey but the price around E10,000 I really can't see them sell too many.
I like it...
...but not 10k worth of like
How about a red one (link)?
They were never going to make an ‘affordable’ mass production watch though. I think they look good if you want and can afford a clean looking and very highly finished watch with an equally highly finished and rare movement. I’d imagine they’ll judge this initiative in 5-10 years, not the next 12 months sales.
I’d be interested if some of the professional photographers on the forum have any views on whether being a Leica adds anything to a watch.
It's like a really bad Sinn.
Me no likey da leica
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
I like it. Particularly the L1. Usually these efforts fall flat, but not this.
One of the better attempts at taking a brand name out of its natural habitat, it looks reasonably at home on a watch, given that they're already known for luxury level precision engineering.
Some echos of NOMOS, but good too that they've come up with some unique features for the movement, and a simple and clever way to add a second timezone.
Given the price of the cameras though it was always going to be painfully expensive for a watch from a brand without watchmaking heritage. Maybe there will be a LUMIX branded version for a fraction of the price? ;-)
One potential snag for me though - if you own a Leica camera, it seems a bit much to wear the watch too, while if you don't own the camera, it seems strange to wear it.
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I don’t mind them but I’m not sure I like them at £10k ? Like others they look a bit like Sinn and I would rather spend a quarter of the price on one of those?
Would be interested on whether they could use their skill to make a diver ? Not saying I would like it as I’m sure the price would end up at £20k but would be interesting to see why they would create and with what movements etc??
Although after saying all of the above it’s always nice to see a new brand enter the market even if it’s not for me!!
Chris
Nice clean looking black dial and some interesting features, from 10k....I suppose committed Leica users can afford to consider the exclusivity....but, for me, too much competition at that ballpark for my £.
Would be nice around the £500-£1000 mark, much like the cameras.
Definitely a case of "You get it, or you don't" and I really don't, although I like the look of the black dial one and can see they're quality.
I'm sure there's a market out there, they seem to sell enough cameras to keep going.
M
Far too expensive. The red doesn't seem to match the colour of the iconic red dot, maybe it's the photography!
Black dialed one is quite nice though
It doesn't float my boat but, on the basis that Leica have many enthusiasts with deep pockets. I imagine they'll sell a few. I'm sort of surprised they didn't attempt to differentiate in some way with the spec of the crystals; given that Leica are rather good at glass I'm surprised there isn't an angle there.
In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.
I'll wait for the Fuji version, it'll do the same thing for a quarter of the price.
I like it. However, as with any watch my thoughts immediately go to the ease and cost of servicing, albeit if you can afford the watch and probably Leica camera/s and lenses too then this may not be an issue.
F.T.F.A.
“it has one key feature that really sets it apart: a crown that you push to reset the seconds to zero and enter a time-setting mode. This means you never pull out the crown or fiddle with multiple positions.
Indeed, for a fraction of the cost I'd rather just fiddle with my Fuji.
Odd that they haven't used the classic Leica font and made more of the iconic 'red dot'.
I can only assume they considered making the sub-dial red but decided it would look like a superficial exercise in branding, and invite the inevitable comment that you’re mainly paying for the red dot. The red second hand is a more subtle nod to it, and keeps the focus on the movement and design. It’s tricky, to work it has to stand up purely as a watch, and not an accessory for someone who owns the cameras. It’s nice enough to get away with it, it’s similar in a way to Posche design or Monthlanc watches, though it’s always slightly confusing when you know the brand for something else.
These watches are not for Those who are into watches and know about escapements, balances and Rolex dial types. They are for wealthy Leica collectors (I don’t think the word photographer suits these buyers)
At least they have made some effort though and not just slapped a name on an existing watch buy way overpriced like all Leica products.
Looks to be well put together, but way overpriced! Cashing in on the name perhaps? I'm sure there'll be a few Leicafiles queuing up to but one.
Best Regards - Peter
I'd hate to be with you when you're on your own.
The case is disappointingly generic, the handset is not to my taste and the price is very rich indeed. Only 5ATM? Don't get it wet...
Love their binos though!
It’s just an opinion from a sample of other working professionals who operate in the same area as me (london based advertising/design) nobody I know shoots on Leica, none of the rental house stock them, they don’t tether to the industry standard (capture-one) in 25 years I never once assisted on a shoot where a Leica was used. The S model was just not reliable enough as the af motors broke in the lenses and took months to fix, let’s not forget the sensor delamination issues with the early digital offerings either.
As a business cost they are a non-starter, their main market is wealthy amateurs/collectors.
Such as old slow hand here:
I guess it’s much like dive/pilots watches it’s not Divers and Pilots buying them!
Leica=rebadged Panasonic. The two companies have been in cahoots for many years.
If I liked the style enough would go for Nomos, watchmaking history and in-house movements for a lot less money.
Agreed, Leica are not what you and I consider mainstream, but are you seriously suggesting that the "main market" for Canon, Nikon etc is other than "wealthy amateurs/collectors"? I believe that they may sponsor professionals to bolster their image / marketability.
Then, maybe your opinion might be changed by looking into the more artistic side of photography where 'shoots' and tripods are not the common way of working. I think you'll find examples of world-class professionals using Leica. And you'll find others using medium and full-frame format cameras...it's 'horses for courses'.
Last edited by PickleB; 14th June 2018 at 15:51. Reason: amend 2nd para...adding last sentence
http://www.procentre.co.uk/rental-cameras-leica.php There are other pro camera hire agencies renting Leica cameras and lenses … and I'm aware of professional photographers using them. The S lens motor anomaly has been remedied. And the professional camera market extends far beyond the advertising and design sector.
dunk
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"Well they would say that ... wouldn't they!"
You have to admit that it would look a bit naff for someone to wear a Leica watch whilst using, say, a Nikon camera.
Possibly they should restrict sales to those who actually own a Leica camera.
Make it more exclusive and push the price of both the cameras and watches up.
i’m well aware of the artistic side of photography, several meters of shelving weighed down by years of buying photobooks attest to that i also worked with renown ‘art photographers’ in the past. the fact remains Leica operate in a luxury niche, they have even branched out into selling £10k wristwatches
I never felt at all awkward travelling with my Leica binoculars and Nikon DSLRs.
Now "niche" I can agree with (rather than the parenthesis in #24), especially as I don't see their niche as anything to do with horology.
As to the watches, I like the look and the, albeit limited, novelty...but, as several others have said, not at that price.
It looks like a nicely built watch - but not 10 grand's worth.
I don't like the fact that on the L2 there are 3 pushers or crowns and they are all completely different. Messy design on an otherwise almost Bauhaus approach. As has been said, I think Nomos does this style of design better, for a lot less money.
Simon
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Ahhh?!? Completely the wrong colour, looks a bit cheap too that..
Nice looking watches, but not for 10k. Who's next entering on the watch market ? Hasselblad ?
I'm not even sure of the market position, Leica cameras users are already wearing Rolex,PP, AP, etc...
Not for me at all.
They will no doubt sell some - the Chinese market will lap these up in their Leica love.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
What do those dial cut outs do? They look like they should have a function but I can't see anything about them in the article, and they're blank so not like a triple date function.
Feels like a management pet project
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