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    Under rated / under the radar.

    Just for fun.....
    Name a watch that you think is currently under-rated or appreciated.


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    The 40mm Rolex Explorer IIs

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    Not necessarily in monetary terms !


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    Not to everyone's taste, but I do like the brand Urban Jurgensen
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    Modern Doxas - I really don't understand why they seem to get a bad press in some quarters

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    The 40mm Rolex Explorer IIs
    42mm gets my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
    Modern Doxas - I really don't understand why they seem to get a bad press in some quarters

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    Possibly because of many stories of poor very poor customer support and qulaity control. They sure do look good though.

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    Nomos ahoi atlantik

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    Stuff like basic Citizen eco-drive. Cheap, cheerful and surprisingly good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafle View Post
    Possibly because of many stories of poor very poor customer support and qulaity control. They sure do look good though.
    Well mine's fabulous...



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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    The 40mm Rolex Explorer IIs
    Absolutely!

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    This one :)

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    Edox Iceman. One of the best built watches I've ever handled/fondled.... ;-)

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    Under rated / under the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
    Well mine's fabulous...



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    Indeed it is, but it doesn't alter the poor experience many have had in recent years. I'd happily own one myself.

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    Yes I would agree that the 40mm Rolex Explorer 2 is under rated.

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    Most of the modern high end Raymond Weil line.
    Specifically the Nabucco diver from a couple of years ago, and the Freelancer chrono from the current range. Both exceptional watches for a couple of grand.

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    Most Grand Seikos and Orients. Was aware of the names, but only got to know more after joining this forum. I now have a Grand Seiko Quartz Diver and an Orient Retrograde. Both from forum members.

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    Vacheron Constantin 42042 original Overseas - somewhat overlooked and still well priced for what it is. The recent white gold version has returned to the ultra-thin style, and it feels a bit more dressy and sophisticated than the larger, later ones. Beautifully put together and wonderfully solid too, comparing favourably with 14790ST Royal Oaks while feeling more substantial. There's even a completely ignored quartz version that has - at least until recently - been a bit of a bargain.
    Oysterquartz 17000 - A firm favourite here but still overlooked in the scheme of things as people are wary of quartz and want a typical Rolex. I've been wearing mine today, such an awesome, bullet proof bracelet, unique style, and a solidity and weight that's quite different from mechanical datejusts of the time. Now confirmed as being a direct descendent from a Genta design (the 'texan') that pre-dated the RO. Brilliantly futuristic, in a 70s way.
    1019 & 6541 Milgaus - Ok well not exactly under-rated, but what a watch and when did you last see one? When are they even discussed? They are not a brand that does re-issues, but still, imagine it.
    Grand Seiko 9Fs - again not exactly under-rated and much loved by some, but many ignore high accuracy quartz in favour of mechanical and spring drive, even though the 9Fs are in many cases better proportioned (less thick), are low maintenance, are incredibly practical, and are special in their own right. My preferred GS in many ways.
    Omega Aqua Terra Quartz, last applied indices generation - I tend to bang on about this one but it has the right combination of AT attributes such as brushed centre links and no date surround, is thinner than the mechanical version and so wears better, and has the independently adjustable hour hand 'time zone' function that goes back to the 70s Megaquartz, which went missing in the following generation. When the dust settles it might just be a classic, an affordable low maintenance, practical Omega beater in an era of price rises.
    JLC Geophysic True Second - Some interest on launch, but largely ignored as looking like a quartz is an odd complication, and it's quite different from the usual romantic JLC style. But is it actually one of their best looking watches?
    Girard Perregaux vintage dress watches. If you can find an oversized one, they can be lovely, but have never been highly valued.

    Good question btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsguy View Post
    Vacheron Constantin 42042 original Overseas - somewhat overlooked and still well priced for what it is. The recent white gold version has returned to the ultra-thin style, and it feels a bit more dressy and sophisticated than the larger, later ones. Beautifully put together and wonderfully solid too, comparing favourably with 14790ST Royal Oaks while feeling more substantial. There's even a completely ignored quartz version that has - at least until recently - been a bit of a bargain.
    Oysterquartz 17000 - A firm favourite here but still overlooked in the scheme of things as people are wary of quartz and want a typical Rolex. I've been wearing mine today, such an awesome, bullet proof bracelet, unique style, and a solidity and weight that's quite different from mechanical datejusts of the time. Now confirmed as being a direct descendent from a Genta design (the 'texan') that pre-dated the RO. Brilliantly futuristic, in a 70s way.
    1019 & 6541 Milgaus - Ok well not exactly under-rated, but what a watch and when did you last see one? When are they even discussed? They are not a brand that does re-issues, but still, imagine it.
    Grand Seiko 9Fs - again not exactly under-rated and much loved by some, but many ignore high accuracy quartz in favour of mechanical and spring drive, even though the 9Fs are in many cases better proportioned (less thick), are low maintenance, are incredibly practical, and are special in their own right. My preferred GS in many ways.
    Omega Aqua Terra Quartz, last applied indices generation - I tend to bang on about this but one but it has the right combination of AT attributes such as brushed centre links and no date surround, is thinner than the mechanical version and so wears better, and has the independently adjustable hour hand 'time zone' function that goes back to the 70s Megaquartz, which went missing in the following generation. When the dust settles it might just be a classic, an affordable low maintenance, practical Omega beater in an era of price rises.
    JLC Geophysic True Second - Some interest on launch, but largely ignored as looking like a quartz is an odd complication, and it's quite different from the usual romantic JLC style. But is it actually one of their best looking watches?
    Girard Perregaux vintage dress watches. If you can find an oversized one, they can be lovely, but have never been highly valued.

    Good question btw!
    Interesting selection and I agree on a number of them. A lot of ticking watches in your selection including the mechanical geo! The Texan is great, I would like to get my hands on one of those, I saw one with bark texture bracelet in solid gold. Super bling but such a run watch and very cool indeed. Never see one available at attainable prices though, for me anyway, it would feel to frivolous to get one and I have a number of watches higher up the wishlist at that kind of money!

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    Rolex Air King. Latest model

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffcotton View Post
    Rolex Air King. Latest model
    Judging by the other thread running, this is generally NOT rated rather than UNDER rated...

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    Vintage Accurists.
    Good quality swiss ebauche movements, can be found for under a tenner on ebay.

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    Breguet Type XX Aeronavale

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
    Judging by the other thread running, this is generally NOT rated rather than UNDER rated...

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    Any Rolex model which does not sell well in its day is destined to become a future classic.

    In thirty years from now, they will be sought after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Stuff like basic Citizen eco-drive. Cheap, cheerful and surprisingly good.
    Got one of them and pretty good , heavy but good
    Last edited by P ELLIS; 6th September 2017 at 08:39. Reason: poo spelling

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    Under rated / under the radar.

    Agreed on the Grand Seiko 9F models (pre- re-branded versions with 'SEIKO' displayed in top 1/3), the no-date and historical variants in particular. Citizen Chronomasters too, especially as service costs for mechanicals go up in the coming years.

    Speedmaster Tin Tin also gets my vote, always thought this would be a few £k more at least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
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    Would love to see more of these on the forum. Have been considering one as a future purchase and would be good to hear from current owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J J Carter View Post
    Breguet Type XX Aeronavale
    Beat me to it. Given the price, size and pedigree I'm surprised we don't see more of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Stuff like basic Citizen eco-drive. Cheap, cheerful and surprisingly good.
    Totally agree.


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    Watches by GGB (Carl). I have the 6B Mk2.

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    Dubey & Schaldenbrand rarely get a mention on here and seem to have some interesting and attractive designs.

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    Really great thread. I spent a pleasurable hour-long train journey this morning chasing down some of the suggestions.

    I think Nomos Club is under-rated though it does have some exposure in the forum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Any Rolex model which does not sell well in its day is destined to become a future classic.

    In thirty years from now, they will be sought after.
    Really? Why?

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    I'd say Chronoswiss are a good shout - Really nice details & well finished
    I bought the Pacific to be 'under the radar'...



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    [QUOTE=zelig;4482581]I'd say Chronoswiss are a good shout - Really nice details & well finished
    I bought the Pacific to be 'under the radar'...



    Fully agree with you. I always enjoy your pictures of this model. I miss my Kairos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    I like that a lot. Certainly more than other KonTikis I've seen before. Nice though it may look, it seems a touch overpriced for a fairly generic 2824-2 though. It's not even COSC.

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    Vintage Eberhard watches for me. They don't get mentioned on here very often and you can get some truly beautiful ones for not a lot of dosh. A case in point:-


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    Oris fly under the radar and are hugely underrated imo.

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    Alpina are another for me.

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    PP 5167 often goes un-noticed.

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    Eterna Super Kontiki Limited Edition 1973. Love the original and apart from the increase in size to 42mm this is a very faithful tribute.

    eterna super kontiki by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

    Speedmaster MkIV Is there a cheaper Speedmaster Pro. Unloved and unwanted, but for how long?

    IMG_4219 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

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    Like some others have said, I think the Grand Seiko 9F watches are a class act that is hard to beat. Beautiful, slim, low maintenance - they are a watch lover's dream come true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejjl View Post
    Watches by GGB (Carl). I have the 6B Mk2.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
    Really? Why?

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    Because he said so. Despite massive amounts of contrary evidence.

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    The Rolex Sub. Hardly ever mentioned here anymore.



    Seriously, Alpina, Fréderique Constant, Maurice Lacroix, Roger Dubuis, Revue Thommen are all doing interesting things but never get a mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seffrican View Post
    The Rolex Sub. Hardly ever mentioned here anymore.
    Actually agree, there is very little interest in the Sub compared to the Seadwellers, BLNR etc

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    Tag Heuer. Finish EASILY comparable to Omega but frequently frowned upon by non Tag owners


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