I like the original titanium 500, but not this. It's missing the nice extra touches that set the previous o500 apart. Shame as a few purple highlights could have set it off nicely and made it less of a "homage".
I like the original titanium 500, but not this. It's missing the nice extra touches that set the previous o500 apart. Shame as a few purple highlights could have set it off nicely and made it less of a "homage".
Interesting to see that some people think everyone is buying and wearing a certain watch to be seen he is wearing a certain (or similar more expensive) watch. I'm sure it's their way of thinking and have no creativity or imagination to accept that some others simply appreciate a certain design and would love to see it on their wrist giving sh*t about what others think. I quite understand the stand point of the latter, however I don't really wear homages exactly because of that someone thinks I'm wearing an expensive watch which I'm not is not a desired effect.
Also I find advices like "save up for the dream watch" useless in most cases. Some people have the opportunity to save until they get their grail simply having no patient to do it, but many others are completely ruled out lately by the mental prices. You can not think seriously someone will save 10-20 years to have their grail watch. Nonsense.
I have some decent watches (Omega, Breitling etc.) but owning no Rolexes at all.
The reason? I find the vintage ones far more beautiful and better balanced than modern ones and I could imagine to have a 1680. I could have bought one about 10 years ago if it was my absolute grail. Just didn't happened and apparently it will never happen with always raising prices. I can't justify spending that amount on a watch. But will not buy a homage either...
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I have been looking at the Steinhart a lot, but I really do want a BLNR or Explorer II at some time but want a GMT watch now. I am not a "flipper" so I'm considering something quite different, one of the Farer GMT watches: https://farer.com/collections/gmt-automatics
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Who is thinking someone's wearing an expensive watch when it's not though?
90% won't notice
9% May notice you've got a watch but not know what it is or ask if it's Michael Kwoooars
1% May notice you've got a watch and want to know what it is. If I saw someone wearing a Steinhart and was in a position to chat I'd be quite pleased that they were clearly into watches enough to know what one is! And I'd hope anyone on here in reality would do the same to be honest!
Are some of you really going to see me on the street wearing my ocean one vintage and think, "look at that prat, can't even afford a £50k vintage Rolex!"
The Farer is really nice. I hovered over making the choice between it and the Steinhart
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Nice to see them making correct sized watches. I made the mistake of buying an ovm, never wear it due to size of it.
Can you buy the Squales mentioned on the thread (like that tropical) be purchased in the UK or only from Gnomon ?
I find it about as appealing as the genuine BLNR.........not very!
Can't understand what all the fuss is about, a watch with a blue and black bezel holds zero appeal for me regardless of who produces it.
Having had a couple of Steinhart watches in pieces I'm impressed with the quality, well worth buying and excellent value for money.
Paul
No need to have a melt down:-)
To me it looks like a copy ( blatant is your insertion ).
You are free to have your own interpretation.
I have nothing against Steinhart copying and people buying and wearing them. I have several.
It is just that I choose not to fool myself or get defensive about it.
If I was looking to buy something like this I would go for the Davosa which is more of a blatant copy and wear it without worrying about what others think. It just seems so much nicer.
Yup, you're only fooling yourself if you think these aren't in any way a copy.
Big steinhart fan, and a huge admirer of the BLNR but this doesn't work for me for some reason. The titanium doesn't help either.
I don't know. It's not a hit for me, if you'd told me there was a steinhart BLNR coming out a few weeks ago I'd be checking my bank balance and putting my name down..but nah.
The titanium puts me off, personally I like the weight of stainless steel.
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IMO, the use of Titanium makes it an entirely different watch. Certainly not a copy in my eyes
Well for me the OP the decision was taken out of my hands. I bought another watch and now got no cash so that makes it a easy choice !
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Different material, different size, different hands, different date position.
There are many similarities but there are also plenty of differences which make it not a copy.
IMHO, a copy may possibly be mistaken for the real thing. This watch will never be mistaken for a Rolex BLNR.
I really don't understand some people in here. It's obvious to anyone but the hard of thinking that this tips it's hat to the BLNR as it's inspiration, but let's look at the similarities...... the bezel is black and blue.... the gmt hand is the same. But er - that's it.
Titanium
500m wr
No PCL
Date at 6
No cyclops
Numbered chapter ring
Lumed bezel
Unidirectional bezel
Sword hands
42mm
Sapphire crystal with AR
Display back
Cmon guys please be honest instead of just sniping cheap shots. This is what a homage should be - not a copy not a replica but at first glance obviously inspired by the BLNR. Maybe more homages should do this? The ocean one black sub from steinhart IS a shameless copy but this isn't and I think we all know that. Given steinharts ability to very closely copy a design, if they had released THIS with a blue gmt hand and blue:black bezel then the tomatoes would be warranted and Steinhart would saved themselves a lot of money and effort . They didn't and they produced a proper homage. I'm sure they will continue to produce full blown copies as well, but this release hopefully signifies a shift in their strategy
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Looking on the bright side, TZ has filled it's daily 'Times someone says BLNR' quota by 10:00am!
If BLNRs are so good, how come there is a steady stream of them being flipped on SC.
So any watch with a blue/black bezel is automatically imitating the BLNR? That seems like quite a narrow view.
Steinhart make some awful rip offs. The newman daytona style thing, for instance. Awful.
But only a layman would confuse this for a rolex. But I'm not sure they'd know what a blnr is!
Steinhart make top quality watches as far as I'm concerned and given that the watch in question is a different size to the BLNR, it's titanium, no PCL and the hands/dial are fairly different - its not a copy.
As a BLNR owner, I have no problem with this watch's existence.
I only wish that Steinhart would invest it's time and money in being a little more creative though.
Go back to making stuff like this:
They actually make a lot of unique pieces but sadly they seem to do this as Ltd edition forum exclusives . There's been several WUS, Russian Czech polish and German forum editions that are very inventive. Just wish they would mainstream them
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Even these can be mistaken for other things. I had an Aviation Vintage, same case shape as that one but DLC, and while watch shopping in London was asked by the salesman if it was a Bell & Ross!
To be fair though, my eyes are so bad that I wouldn't be able to tell from a distance if someone was wearing a Rolex or a Mickey Mouse watch, so I guess I can't criticise!
Firstly, I have no interest in buying either this or the BLNR.
Yes Rolex made that colour combination famous and it definitely has Rolex influences but even a blind man can see it's not a Rolex.
I therefore stand by my apparently ridiculous statement that it's not a copy. Unless your definition of a copy is any watch with a blue and black bezel insert!
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I'm not quibbling with anyone's using their love of any watch as an excuse for a good squabble, I was merely congratulating you on acting so decisively upon your desire to raise the level of the debate.
It would be nice if everyone else would listen to your plea and would resist using playground insults in every post, but I fear that you will find that kind of refined discourse rarely flourishing here.
I've enjoyed this thread and changed my mind a couple of times.
I agree with Raj and others, wear what you want as long as it isn't a fake.
I think it is a copy, but only because Rolex have done such a great job of making the blue and black bezel, and the dial plots, so iconic. Not everyone will see it that way but I think that Steinhart know exactly what they are doing.