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    All this talk of space watches...

    As the title suggests, there has been a few posts referring to space watches of recent. Now, I fell in love with the Gagarin special shown in another thread (black and red always do it for me), but looking around that is out of reach at present (still recuperating after the seafire purchase prior to Christmas).

    So the question is, since a real moon watch is so out of "my" world, which watch is a good foray into the space world?

    Vintage, modern cheapo version, Russian, whatever, any suggestions are welcome!

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    How about the official Chinese space watch. Not exactly cheap though at about £700.



    Plenty of good value Russian stuff has been in space. You can pick up a decent condition Sturmanskie 3133 for less than £150.

    Lots of pics/info here: http://www.netgrafik.ch/russian_space_watches.htm

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    may be Fortis can do for you!

    http://www.fortis-watches.com

    Last edited by rik_68; 7th December 2014 at 13:17.

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    The first series Vostok Amphibia has been into space




    Can be had for a reasonable amount - you have to watch out for frankens though!

    And there is of course the Seiko 'Pogue' - though not too cheap these days and fake ones abound on eBay and elsewhere. Lovely looking things...



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    In the early 80s NASA used Seiko A829s for Shuttle missions... I have one but no photos from my phone...these are pretty cheap 100- 200 quid ..

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    Thanks for the suggestions! Will keep them in mind, well maybe apart from the Chinese one... That's a bit expensive for my tastes at present.
    Like the idea of a vostock as I already have military one of theirs. Hard to spot some of the frankenwatches there though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    In the early 80s NASA used Seiko A829s for Shuttle missions... I have one but no photos from my phone...these are pretty cheap 100- 200 quid ..




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    Thanks, that's the one.....
    Cheers..
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    Fortis have done some nice cosmonaut watches

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    There's an interesting Russian watch on SC as well with some links to cosmonauts

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    My personal favourite space watch ....

    If you're open to quartz - and I'm not talking any old quartz, but the Seiko 7A38 15J movement ....
    Then you might like to consider the Yema Spationaute III Aragatz, as worn by French and Russian cosmonauts for joint missions to Mir in 1988 and 1989 (and even as late as 1992), by the likes of Jean-Loup Chretien, Michel Tognini, Alexandr Volkov and Sergei Krikalev, to name but a few.








    They appear on eBay and LeBonCoin fairly regularly - sometimes with 'pie-in-sky' asking prices as high as 500 Euros, but you should be able to pick up a decent example for 200 - 250 Euros, if you shop around. I picked up this one, an early limited edition numbered example, off a Belgian classifieds site in March for a mere 120 Euros.



    Last edited by Seiko7A38; 7th December 2014 at 15:08.

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    Where can you pick up one of those Yema watches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Where can you pick up one of those Yema watches?
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko7A38 View Post
    They appear on eBay and LeBonCoin fairly regularly - sometimes with 'pie-in-sky' asking prices as high as 500 Euros, but you should be able to pick up a decent example for 200 - 250 Euros, if you shop around.
    http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Yema-spationa...-/131370894875
    http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijo...937.htm?ca=1_s
    http://www.leboncoin.fr/montres_bijo...200.htm?ca=1_s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    How about the official Chinese space watch. Not exactly cheap though at about £700.
    Seems there was also a 53mm version the astronauts worn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoiksy View Post
    (black and red always do it for me)
    A black and red one here...



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    Lots to consider. My choice is the Sinn 142, the second automatic chronograph in space!

    Tony can tell you about it and take much better photos than I can. His was gorgeous...

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...So-there-I-was

    Otherwise, lots of great suggestions here?

    http://www.spacekids.co.uk/spacewatch/

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    Dont forget fictional space watches as well!

    Such as Bishop's Seiko from Aliens





    Seiko 7A28 6000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    How about the official Chinese space watch. Not exactly cheap though at about £700.



    Plenty of good value Russian stuff has been in space. You can pick up a decent condition Sturmanskie 3133 for less than £150.

    Lots of pics/info here: http://www.netgrafik.ch/russian_space_watches.htm
    I like the face of that watch but for £700 I couldn't live with that cheesy caseback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldwarkid View Post
    I like the face of that watch but for £700 I couldn't live with that cheesy caseback.
    Different, slightly less cheesy (only just) case back here: http://www.watchshop.com/mens-fiyta-...p99969512.html
    Only YOU have to know about it when wearing it ;)

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    Great thread...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Dont forget fictional space watches as well!

    Such as Bishop's Seiko from Aliens





    Seiko 7A28 6000
    That's a nice looking watch. Loosely linked to space... as was mr Curtas suggestion. Both red and black though

    Loving where this thread has gone. Some seriously nice watches coming through. SO much temptation!! ( I was warned this forum would be a bad idea!)

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    Why do so many "space" watches have sapphire crystals? Worst material for the application. Best is plastic.

    Mind you, why do so many of them have high water resistance where this is redundant? Mechanical movements where quartz would be more accurate and durable?

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    Don't forget the Sekonda/ Strella chrono. First watch to walk in space...



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    Quote Originally Posted by seikokiller View Post
    Why do so many "space" watches have sapphire crystals? Worst material for the application. Best is plastic.

    Mind you, why do so many of them have high water resistance where this is redundant? Mechanical movements where quartz would be more accurate and durable?
    Im more bothered about them having day/date windows personally...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Im more bothered about them having day/date windows personally...........
    Never seen one with a moonphase though.

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    Omega display of commemorative moonwatches at NASA mission control, Huston.





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    Quote Originally Posted by seikokiller View Post
    Never seen one with a moonphase though.
    I'm afraid that I cant allow you to do that Mr Seikokiller


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    Quote Originally Posted by seikokiller View Post
    Why do so many "space" watches have sapphire crystals? Worst material for the application. Best is plastic.

    Mind you, why do so many of them have high water resistance where this is redundant? Mechanical movements where quartz would be more accurate and durable?
    Yema Spationaute III has a 2.8mm thick Hesalite crystal. Bit tougher than your average 'Speedy'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikokiller View Post
    Why do so many "space" watches have sapphire crystals? Worst material for the application. Best is plastic.
    As 99.999999% of them aren't worn in space, but here on planet earth, with our brick walls and bathtubs and everything ;).
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    There are still 'flown' watches out there for very reasonable money, one of our very own forum member picked up an Omega NASA LCD prototype watch with Beta Light (Tritium back lighting behind the LCD display) for £1000 last year!

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=alaska

    One watch I would love to see and never have is Omega project 'condor', along side numerous Alaska watches (including Speedsonics) Omega were commission to prototype a multiscreen LCD watch in the early 1980's, the watch was developed and flown but I have never seen a single image of one.

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    Wasn't the Casio dw5600 worn in space? Sure I've seen pictures and read it's 'flight verified' or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    Wasn't the Casio dw5600 worn in space? Sure I've seen pictures and read it's 'flight verified' or something?
    From Wikipedia (DW-5600E)

    This model replaces the older Casio DW-5600C and features Illuminator, an EL backlight with flash function. The dual-time function was deleted, but the current time is also displayed in countdown timer and stopwatch mode. Like its predecessor, it is one of the few watches certified by NASA for space missions.


    Also:

    Found this picture on google of one being worn on a mission


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    Quote Originally Posted by dickstar1977 View Post
    There are still 'flown' watches out there for very reasonable money, one of our very own forum member picked up an Omega NASA LCD prototype watch with Beta Light (Tritium back lighting behind the LCD display) for £1000 last year!

    http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=alaska

    One watch I would love to see and never have is Omega project 'condor', along side numerous Alaska watches (including Speedsonics) Omega were commission to prototype a multiscreen LCD watch in the early 1980's, the watch was developed and flown but I have never seen a single image of one.
    Thats a really interesting read - thanks for the link

    I love the LCD model - it looks great

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    Great thread, loving the Pogue and swing lugged Amphibia.

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    Speaking of naff digitals ....

    Let's not forget the Elektronika 5 worn by some Russian cosmonauts in the 1980's. http://www.netgrafik.ch/elektronika.htm






    Still, at least both Volkov and Krikalev were also wearing their Yema Spationaute III's when they landed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    A black and red one here...



    Am I helping? You did say whatever!
    You just know that red one will stop working any minute now......

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceslug View Post
    You just know that red one will stop working any minute now......
    Actually thats a different red one in each picture

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    Really like that FIYTA very substantial and lots of nice details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    Really like that FIYTA very substantial and lots of nice details.
    Same here. I'd really like to hear your opinions on the quality etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    Same here. I'd really like to hear your opinions on the quality etc.
    It is a very nice watch, keeps very good time about +1 second a day. pushers are nice and smooth and it is a heavy beast with a well put together bracelet, I took a flyer on it saw it online and bought it.
    I am really surprised by it and very happy.

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    Great thread

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    From the sublime to the...ahem.....

    How about this Sturmanskie Sputnik?



    The little red rocket orbits the central section to indicate seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    From the sublime to the...ahem.....

    How about this Sturmanskie Sputnik?



    The little red rocket orbits the central section to indicate seconds
    That's a great looking watch Ian, I haven't seen those before........love the red rocket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    That's a great looking watch Ian, I haven't seen those before........love the red rocket!
    I know what you mean Barry

    It doesnt take itself too seriously, its quartz, has no date and can be had for well under £100

    I am seriously tempted - even if it is 40mm...........

    Miyota movement

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2517401421...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


    Also available with black dial

    Last edited by Velorum; 8th December 2014 at 21:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    From Wikipedia (DW-5600E)

    This model replaces the older Casio DW-5600C and features Illuminator, an EL backlight with flash function. The dual-time function was deleted, but the current time is also displayed in countdown timer and stopwatch mode. Like its predecessor, it is one of the few watches certified by NASA for space missions.


    Also:

    Found this picture on google of one being worn on a mission

    Cool. I own a space watch.

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    Or maybe not - LOL !!

    Quote Originally Posted by rik_68 View Post
    may be Fortis can do for you!

    http://www.fortis-watches.com

    Not wishing to knock the opposition, but I couldn't resist this little poke at Fortis.

    As you may have guessed from the few images I've posted in this thread, as with any subject that interests me, I've done an inordinate anorak-level amount of research into the Yema Spationaute III, collecting dozens of photos of them being worn by various French and Soviet cosmonauts - even gone as far as cadging high resolution, albeit sometimes grainy, zooms of a few images from Russian news agencies. Having studied them all closely, I have a pretty good memory for such photos.

    This little thread renewed my interest, so I started googling a few of the other brands mentioned.

    Came across this thread on another forum.

    http://forum.atgvintagewatches.com/s...mania-in-Space

    Fortis also enters the fray, securing the title of the official cosmonaut’s chronograph for their 5100-powered offerings. Unfortunately, there seems to be no evidence of the Cosmonaut Chrono in EVA, but there are photos of it on astronaut's wrists, even if they are clearly on the ground ....

    It is clear that Fortis were a little miffed to have missed out on decent photographic evidence for their watches on Cosmonauts' wrists, and they have been at pains to get images of their later B42-cased versions (non-Lemania) in later years.
    So what else should I stumble across, but this misleading Fortis magazine advert from 2000:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Adverti...-/361136057487



    .... using a blatantly blagged photo of Jean-Loup Chretien on his 1988 Aragatz EVA !!



    Funnily enough, made on the 9th December, 1988.

    http://videotheque.cnes.fr/index.php...c&id_doc=20027
    Last edited by Seiko7A38; 9th December 2014 at 15:04. Reason: Adding in eBay link and date postscript.

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