Hi all!
pulled the trigger on the Tesla Y lease deal (tesla direct) - but now is the quandary of getting a home charger - any suggestions or recommendations?
Also have switched to octopus energy so will move over to one of their EV tariffs!
I’ve got a Wallbox Pulsar Plus, it’s pretty small an unobtrusive and the App works well. You can also operate it/set timers via Bluetooth as well so you’re not relying on Cloud Services etc.
I haven’t got Octopus, but I believe it’s compatible with their smart EV tariffs where it charges at cheapest rate/surplus energy generation, and it plays very nicely with my wife’s Tesla and my VW. Doesn’t like the mother in laws Zoe when she visits though, but they’re notoriously fussy so she has to use our aptly named Granny Charger via a 3 pin plug.
The Ohme’s are good as well, and have a working relationship with Octopus so they tend to get new features first etc.
Ive got an Autel charger at home & work on the basis we use their diagnostic systems and theyre very good. Its been faultless so far and compatible with octopus EV tariffs
I have a Simpson and partners charger which I rate very highly
I also have a charging lead from this guy which has a button to open the Tesla charging flap which I find very handy
https://www.evchargeking.com/en/tesla-charging-cables
Just had a Zappi charger fitted at the house and I have ordered a Tesla Model 3 as my next company car.
It will be a big change from the manual box 3 series BMW I currently have.
The brief test drive I had in the model 3 really impressed me, but I'm getting a bit nervous now as the date for handing back my BMW approaches.
I'm sure it will be a real mindset change for me but it will work out fine in the end.
I was in exactly the same position diving into the EV world with a Model 3 Performance in September 2020. The learning curve is steep but within an hour you will feel at home with one peddle driving and you will never look back.
I am briefly back in a new M Sport 1 Series and it’s like going back in time, I can’t get back into a Tesla quick enough.
Enjoy
Pitch
Hiya mate.
Not pulled the trigger yet. Personal circumstances dictated that we reduced to one car and it had turned into a competition to see how long we could manage, wifey had Scottish blood………
Majority of my business trips have utilised public transport which even in rural Suffolk has been fine and with ALL bus journeys 2 quid it has been a very cheap period. But my new co is gathering pace and a purchase is looming very soon.
No brainier for me, electric and Tesla Model S.
Pitch
All depends on the mileage you do. If you do low mileage with the occasional isolated long journey then I'd recommend sticking with the granny charger and Octopus Intelligent. You'll benefit from the whole house getting cheap electric after a long journey, and normally the granny charger can top up frequent short journeys.
If you're doing sustained long journeys then wall charger is the way to go. Just don't assume you need one if the former is true ;-)
Just sharing some recent experience. Few weeks ago I sold my Tesla Model3 Long Range. It was a 2021 model (China built) which I owned for 6 months. Bought with 104k miles on the clock, sold with 106k miles. Ran absolutely faultlessly. Was an absolute joy to drive, and battery range and performance didn't seem any different to my previous Model3 which was on 70k miles, and seemed to get similar mileage to relatively new and low mileage cars.
Understandably there's a few concerns about battery range and reliability. Not saying there won't be issues, but then again ICE engines go bang occasionally, so it may be comparable. I certainly didn't worry about it and had 6 months and 2k miles trouble free motoring.
Picked up a 2018 Jaguar iPace S now, on 57k miles. Totally different car but still nice in its own way. Has a few issues which I need to resolve but looking forward to another 6 months with it before passing it on. Trouble is Jag and Octopus parted ways a few months ago so having to charge with the granny charger in the off-peak period. Argghhhh.
I’ve been put off the ipace by the horror stories about all JLR products recently. So have many others if the price of an ipace is anything to go by.
There are a couple of cheap Tesla model S on eBay at the moment with 350,000 and 450,000 miles on the clock. I’d expect them to get close to a million before the battery is anywhere near useless.
Yep, there are some real high-mileage S's out there. Most of Amsterdam taxi's were S's last time I was there. They seem to be wearing well, and with little to service.
I'll be honest, the tech in the iPace is miles behind the Tesla. The GUI is slow and non-intuitive. In a weeks ownership I've noticed that the front windscreen is leaking somewhere or the coolant hoses are leaking (both common issues). There is a big battery issue where people can only charge to 70%, which luckily this one doesn't have. It's covered by the 8 year/100k mile battery warranty.
I picked this one up cheap (it would be cheapest in UK if I put in on Autotrader), so it will likely be 6 months free or at worst cheap motoring. The Tesla took 4 months to sell (mileage and time of year), and I expect this to take just as long, so it will be on Autotrader in 2 months :-)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-69022771
BBC saying EV sales falling but the article is all over the place, one interesting bit is the US putting 100% tariff on chinese electric cars
It is also, as usual, very Tesla centric. Like the uptake of EVs depends on the success of one EV manufacturer with a limited and aging model range. There are some very compelling models out there now from other manufacturers.
There are of course many people waiting patiently for the EV sky to fall in, but generally across Europe BEV sales are up 3.8% versus the same quarter last year.
https://www.acea.auto/pc-registratio...-market-share/
The same report shows quite a rise in hybrid vehicle sales, probably reflecting the fact that manufacturers have to get fleet emissions down to avoid/minimise fines and also the general interest in electrically propelled vehicles from the general public, albeit ones not ready to let go of petrol just yet.
It’s just a slowing in the rate of growth of EV sales, but every day more and more EVs are hitting the road.
The US putting punitive tariffs on Chinese EVs is a shame, they’ll miss out on some good models, some of China’s export EVs are excellent cars. If BYD and Nio take off here they’ll create a lot of jobs in a declining sector even if they’re not manufactured here.
Could it not be so much about missing out on excellent Chinese EV's as protecting American firms and also not wishing to contribute to China's near future war economy...seems to me only a matter of time until it hots up in the S. China Sea, bad form to be financially supporting a big plank of your enemies export sector and driver of growth...This alongside humanitarian, moral reasons is why I'd avoid a Chinese made vehicle. Though obviously in this world no ones got completely clean hands.
Well, as apparently we can’t talk politics in the G&D, I was restricting myself to the consumer impacts of such a decision.
I’d imagine and agree it’s precisely short term protectionism at work, trying to mask the fact that the US (and much of Europe too) hasn’t grasped the opportunities (and boatloads of money) that alternative energy offers.
China could go to war any time it likes, it doesn’t need to export EVs for that.
Last edited by Tooks; 17th May 2024 at 10:17.
1) that's not the Chinese way
2) The US are precisely setting up the infrastructure. It will also force Chinese manufacturers to build them in the US to sell them, thus more jobs for Americans.
3) I believe at least the US (not speaking for Europe) are moving in the right direction regarding alt energy sources; That they have catching up to do is not disputed.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Maybe, maybe not, there´s going to war with hopes and expectations and then there´s the Chinese way...
´´The greatest victory is that which requires no battle´´
Sun Tzu.
Personally I´ll do my little bit, where I can by not boosting their economy. It´s no skin off my nose, feels the right thing to do to me.
No, and thank goodness.
I hope that we, as in the UK, take any opportunity to build Chinese EVs here, and jobs are created in the dealer networks and battery hot swap facilities (Nio) as well.2) The US are precisely setting up the infrastructure. It will also force Chinese manufacturers to build them in the US to sell them, thus more jobs for Americans.
The MG EV models sell pretty well from what I can see, they’d probably sell more if they were UK manufactured like we saw with cars built by Nissan in Sunderland and Honda down in Swindon.
Even if most of the cars built here were exported, people felt they were still supporting the UK somehow.
We had a good start here in the UK, but does feel like we’re letting it slip.3) I believe at least the US (not speaking for Europe) are moving in the right direction regarding alt energy sources; That they have catching up to do is not disputed.
Geely have made a good start in the UK and Sweden
I am not sure the combination of death by a thousand cuts and "what are you going to do about it?" are that much better, a bit like boiling the frog starting in cold water... By the time it realises things are bad it's too late.
Getting manufacturers to build the cars in the countries they want to sell in is what you had earlier called "short term protectionism"; It also has the advantage to level the playing field with the national manufacturers.
The problem this country will have if they manufacture more than their internal market can absorb is described in one word that starts with "b" that cannot be mentioned here.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
The EV market is still relatively new, I believe some people are nervous over long term support from other than mainstream manufacturers. By way of example see the current Fisker situation. It is also possible that should there be any future issues with China spares could prove problematic to obtain
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Just sold my ICE to her an EV through SS. When that tax loophole closes I’ll be back to ICE again I guess
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I ain’t going back to ICE even when things change.
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My eldest picks this up today from a VW dealer. One thing i’ve noticed with watching the second hand car market of late is that main dealer prices in some cases are in line with Indy’s and often a bit cheaper. Added to the fact with VW you get a 2 year extended warranty and a certified battery health check it appears a no brainer. With most Indy’s you get 3 months and then the option to pay to extend. He paid just over 14k with a small deposit and an old banger he part exchanged.
23k on the clock with an 8 year battery warranty.
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I’m sure he’ll love it, I liked my ID.3 1st Edition I picked up in lockdown 2020.
Make sure it’s running software 3.2 if it isn’t already, VW tweaked a few things including raising the battery pre-heat threshold temp with some efficiency improvements as a result, improvements to the rapid charging curve/speed and some navigation/voice improvements.
To check the version;
open the “Setup” item in the main menu of the infotainment system. Then navigate to “System Information”. The “ID. software” icon is next and info should be in there.
Interesting statement from Rimac.
https://www.motor1.com/news/718973/r...ric-hypercars/
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Not sure where Rimac are going with that statement?
After 2035, they won’t be selling any new ICE ones in the EU unless things change.
Still, Hypercar sales are a niche within a niche, so not really relevant to the wider car market. But, I’m sure there’ll be plenty of millionaires in enough parts of the world to keep them going.
Just bumping Bugatti stock for a bit. WAG group bought him out and made him CEO there.
Got from SW15 to Knutsford for about £3.50
Ionic 6 AWD and 20” wheels. Wide tires as well. Normal mode with low AC. Left with 90% battery arrived at 31.
I’m thinking of getting a used Tesla ( long range ) with about 50k miles on the clock. Can pick them up now for about 19k.
Been doing some research and vast majority haven’t had any issues even at 100k.
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I’ve read If the long range is charger to 80% is gets around the same as the normal but for a longer trip you can charge to 100% to get the extra 60 miles.
I’ll only need to do one 200+ mile trip a month.
It’s the model 3 yes.
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Last edited by Ivan Drago; 20th May 2024 at 21:06.
Worth watching a video or two like this
https://youtu.be/9RYKa9PifJc
Last edited by Pitch3110; 20th May 2024 at 22:06.
Those are the new ones.
In the older Tesla’s (mine included) the standard range has one battery type which can be charged to 100% and the long range has a different type which Tesla advised me when buying should be charged to 80% unless going on a long journey immediately. Heat pump makes a difference too.