Reply With Quote8) i want one!Originally Posted by abraxas
Me too....hmmm start saving and looking!
8) i want one!
What's a puff? a bit touchy about about slang words for homosexuals ralphy arn,t you :? a bit quick to jump on the old "puff" malarchy , i know you are cheif pc but you,re making me suspicious :? :mrgreen:
R
Great green on the bezel.
He's got a even better pic IIRC. :wink:
Stunner of a watch IMO.
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
Great pic Karl.
john
“We undoubtedly want to compete with the leading Swiss makers, but we are aware of the fact that, if a particular buyer is totally Swiss oriented, he or she might never become a customer of ours. But those with a broader mind who appreciate fine watches will see that we offer a unique combination of technology, Japanese craftsmanship and reliability.”
Seiko CEO Shinji Hattori in QP this month
THIN is the new BLACK
18 pages and it gets flipped for a Rolex?
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=108916&p=1140831#p1140831
Seems ironic doesn't it? :D
Erm a Daytona is hardly just any Rolex is it!
classic :lol: good choice though ryan.
:lol: the irony is brilliant - now this one reason why an old thread should be revived :Dclassic :lol: good choice though ryan.
Tora Tora Tora indeed. Lovely Rolex :):lol: the irony is brilliant - now this one reason why an old thread should be revived :Dclassic :lol: good choice though ryan.
Abraxas quotes:
Great. Now how about stooping low enough to let us snotty Europeans actually BUY one of your multi-thousand-pound watches without having to go on a picture off of the internet? We certainly wouldn't do that with any Swiss watch so why should we do it with yours?“We undoubtedly want to compete with the leading Swiss makers, but we are aware of the fact that, if a particular buyer is totally Swiss oriented, he or she might never become a customer of ours. But those with a broader mind who appreciate fine watches will see that we offer a unique combination of technology, Japanese craftsmanship and reliability.”
Seiko CEO Shinji Hattori in QP this month
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
:lol: :lol:
Shame - Really liked the GMT - my all time favourite Seiko - or not so much of a shame as the SS Daytona is still one of my favourite Rolex - Just envious as although I have an SS Daytona at my place it's not mine and I don't get to keep it :cry::lol: :lol:
It's just a matter of time...
i have spent nearly an hour reading this thread and you have now traded for a Daytona........
so where are the pictures??
i think we deserve pictures at least :mrgreen:
I'll take that wager.
As for the need, this thread is ample proof that people do not understand a watch they have never touched, let alone had.
So instead of saying "look, this is my new Rolex", which allows you to be understood by everyone because everyone here has at least tried one, and receive tons of accolade about how good, wise, etc. a choice it was, the OP went for something different.
All WIS that we are know of Seiko, but only a handful have actually handled a GS and therefore were immune from stupid comments a la "it's only a Seiko". Please note that I called these comment stupid, not those who said "I could not put that money in a Seiko" because that is a different, legitimate reason (even if it shows that you buy for status :wink: )
Therefore, by comparing the watch to something we all know, the OP was using a rhetorical figure, a simile, to allow us to understand what his watch was. Not preparing his next post in SC.
Prejudice being what it is, a number remained at the bottom of the cavern. It matters not, those who matter are those who came forward...
Shame we never made that wager :)
Arrives next Sat, I will put them up then 8)
You would have lost your money - it never appeared on SC, it was only because the opportunity to get a lifelong grail - a Rolex Daytona became available. That's the only reason it went and in any case I think you have to make an exception for a Daytona. 8)
I'll take that wager.
As for the need, this thread is ample proof that people do not understand a watch they have never touched, let alone had.
So instead of saying "look, this is my new Rolex", which allows you to be understood by everyone because everyone here has at least tried one, and receive tons of accolade about how good, wise, etc. a choice it was, the OP went for something different.
All WIS that we are know of Seiko, but only a handful have actually handled a GS and therefore were immune from stupid comments a la "it's only a Seiko". Please note that I called these comment stupid, not those who said "I could not put that money in a Seiko" because that is a different, legitimate reason (even if it shows that you buy for status :wink: )
Therefore, by comparing the watch to something we all know, the OP was using a rhetorical figure, a simile, to allow us to understand what his watch was. Not preparing his next post in SC.
Prejudice being what it is, a number remained at the bottom of the cavern. It matters not, those who matter are those who came forward...
Shame we never made that wager :)
Nothing to be ashamed of, a Daytona is a Daytona after all. Still, a little ironic, it is. ;)
if you are happy then thats all that counts
yeah but its just a phase the 'daytona' thing we all get it. Ryan'l get over it and be back with another gs soon :lol:
Great watch Ryan! I pity the Rolex that has to face that one! :D
edit: and then I read the thread to the end and found out how much you really liked that GS... :x
To be fair to Ryan he "ummed and arred" over this for weeks and resisted my repeated offers at the GTG with good grace.
I knew he was bitten by the Daytona bug but was surprised when he finally did the deal because he was wavering even then.
Nevertheless I'm not complaining :blackeye:
Good luck to you Ryan :)
Oh no!
Sold the slayer to buy the slain! :lol:
What's "Tora Tora Tora" in Swiss (French/German) ? :lol: :wink:
Cheers,
Neil.
In German probably same as in English if tora means tiger ;)
tora means "dive" in japanese doesn't it????In German probably same as in English if tora means tiger ;)
Err, no? I understood that Tora was just a code word for radio use.tora means "dive" in japanese doesn't it????In German probably same as in English if tora means tiger ;)
Here: http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_tora_tora_tora_meanErr, no? I understood that Tora was just a code word for radio use.tora means "dive" in japanese doesn't it????In German probably same as in English if tora means tiger ;)
Here: http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html
Wikipedia also explains it: The title is made up of the code-words that were used by the Japanese to indicate that complete surprise was achieved and is translated in the Japanese as "?" or "tiger", hence making the code for achieved surprise "Tiger, tiger, tiger"."
Wikipedia also explains it: The title is made up of the code-words that were used by the Japanese to indicate that complete surprise was achieved and is translated in the Japanese as "?" or "tiger", hence making the code for achieved surprise "Tiger, tiger, tiger"."
yes, sorry i meant to write you were right and it was code, however i had a hungry cat on my lap who needed attention :lol: :lol:
I admire a man who gets his priorities right :DWikipedia also explains it: The title is made up of the code-words that were used by the Japanese to indicate that complete surprise was achieved and is translated in the Japanese as "?" or "tiger", hence making the code for achieved surprise "Tiger, tiger, tiger"."
yes, sorry i meant to write you were right and it was code, however i had a hungry cat on my lap who needed attention :lol: :lol:
Flipping this GS for a Daytona :roll:
Or perhaps the GS was a "phase" as well. After all, "you must have a GS at least once" is an even stronger WIS doctrine than "you must have a Daytona".
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
Well since this thread has been resurrected I may as well take the opportunity to say what I think.
As soon as I saw it I loved it. I certainly think that it's very different from the Rolex GMTIIC - it certainly wears much biggger on the wrist.
The bezel is really impressive and very different from the Rolex (sometimes looks grey - sometimes black).
Like all Seiko's the dial lume is impressive too - way better than Rolex, none of which seem to charge as well in artificial light. The stand out however is the bezel lume - the way the arabic markers light up even in moderate light is simply stunning.
Of course the second hand is something to behold - very, very smooth and a constant source of enjoyment (sad but true). Even the crown fitted at 4 o'clock feels right.
The bracelet is much easier to wear because the centre links are only polished at the chamfered edges and so do not WABI. On the downside, the clasp is not as good as the Rolex (the weak spot on all Seiko's IMO) and the GMT hand looks cheap by comparison.
I really like the power reserve indicator - very useful for not only knowing how much is left, but also knowing how much shaking is required to get it back to full charge. The dial is big enough not to look cramped either.
I like the idea that there are very few of these around and anyone who looks will think it's a bog-standard Seiko (and there's nothing wrong with that in my book). Honestly, comparing the GS and the GMTIIC in real life is pointless - they really are so different that you can own both.
FWIW at first sight the watch reminds me of the Maurice Lacroix (you probably won't get it from looking at my pics, but from a distance I mean) - don't know why, but it just does.
Oh and it's a bugger to photograph like the GMTIIC :blackeye:
I will try to get some comparison shots with the GMTIIC so you can see for yourself.
That's the bit I'm always impressed by (and available in vanilla Seikos as well). But I wouldn't mind seeing these a bit more often, or indeed ever, in more outlets. GTGs are one thing, but it's a lot to plunk down on something sight unseen!
...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!
Agreed but if the prices in the little shop on rue Bonaparte are anything to go by, it may well be a lot to plunk down, period.
Cheers
Stern
I searched high and low to find any GS that I could actually look at from the first time I saw one posted here last summer. In the end I resorted to YouTube and the photos. Thankfully Ryan was good enough to bring his to the GTG. But you are right - it's silly, but Seiko do seem to regionalise a lot of their watches.
Availability only in Japan or via import seems really odd to me for such a big watch - it almost seems purpose-made for the Euro market :?
Seiya quote $6k (about £3700 on a good day) but then you have to factor in up to 20% duty which makes it the same as the GMTIIC at full list price... and that is really too much (for both the Rolex and the Seiko).
In other words, it's a great watch that is overpriced and nigh on impossible to find in the wild if you want to buy one.
I've played with this one, I own both Rolex GMTII,ExpII and Seiko 600M GMT.
In term of finishing and movement..Rolex can't beat this.
In term of resale value...Seiko of 4k GBP is hardly known to few..I like this more than the auto version.
I had struggled between this and 600M. I wished their hands were not with broken tips. While the 600M is made of bright ti and the 24hr hand is what I like..my choice is very clear.
"My" GS goes a long way! :D
Congrats, it's a beauty!
http://jimmyfu.com/watchsold/rolex.htmlThese are some of the best photos of the SBGE001 on the web
http://mollewatch.webgain.se/informatio ... upId=12335
john
http://jimmyfu.com/watchsold/sbga029.html
http://jimmyfu.com/watchsold/sbge001.html
That's the bit I'm always impressed by (and available in vanilla Seikos as well). But I wouldn't mind seeing these a bit more often, or indeed ever, in more outlets. GTGs are one thing, but it's a lot to plunk down on something sight unseen!
I agree. But I must also say that I have never been disappointed by a Seiko. Pic do them no justice. On the other hand, there are a lot of Swiss watches that when seen in flesh do not feel as good as one may suppose from what seen on the net.
Bumping this. Interesting to see if/how attitudes have changes since this post was made. Seemingly so as a lot more people now own Grand Seiko/higher end Seiko and the prices have shot up since 2009 as well.
Goodness Ryan - some of us weren’t born when this post started! It would be interesting to go back to some one these posts and see how the watch world has changed.
My attitude has certainly changed as I used to be firmly ensconced in the ‘how much for a Seiko?’ camp. Then I met up with Kash of these parts and saw my first Grand Seiko, was immediately smitten, and had to buy. I had no intention of flipping the watch but then saw the Skyline GMT Springdrive on SC recently. In my current world I need to operate a one in one out policy so the GS went. The Skyline though is every bit as good as the GS, with Zaratsu polishing, the awesome two tone dial, and my first Springdrive true GMT movement. It is running to zero deviation after two weeks too. I’m smitten and also like the fact that in the current climate I can wear something this good and it slips under the radar.
I love the GS in question and a few other take my fancy like the snowflakes, but in recent years my appreciation of them has wained due to so many LE's/versions, to me it waters down what should be a top marque.
Bit like Bremont, certain watches like the MBII, original Alt1 are solid designs but all the limited editions involving every military unit and now the England Rugby team just fog over the really good watches..
Interesting thread. Certainly when this thread was started I can't say I would have even been aware of GS as a brand.
Now? Since buying a SBGE001 in 2017 it has been and remained my favourite watch of all time.
Key observation is the use of the term 'Rollers' in 2009. I've thankfully never heard that before.
I do think that the WIS community has a really good appreciation of the GS brand now however Seiko really needs to step up their marketing of the GS brand to encourage Joe Public. I've just had a look at the SBGP013 on the Goldsmiths site and it refers to it simply as 'Quartz'. Now to Joe Public, £2350 for a Seiko Quartz is ridiculous as you can get one of those for £99 from H Samuel.
It's slightly better on the Grand Seiko says which states....
Movement
Calibre no. : 9F85 Instructions Movement Type : Quartz Accuracy : ±10 seconds per year
....which might begin to spark some interest with JP but still no mention of the finishing or quality of materials.
Last edited by TaketheCannoli; 26th April 2021 at 21:08.
Do you still own the Daytona you swapped for this? That would have been a very nice investment if so.
Ryan is unlikely to still have a watch he bought last week let alone that Daytona.
^ This is genuinely true ^ Watch that arrived saturday (SLA043) is already for sale.
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