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    Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added






    Press release just received

    Senator Chronometer. For the special moments in life. The exclusive launch of the Chronometer in Berlin.

    When seconds turn into significant moments, something very special is often created.

    A decision becomes a success, a victory turns into a triumph, and a “yes” is transformed

    into a promise for life. The Senator Chronometer was made just for such precious moments.

    As unique as life itself, it is an uncompromising acknowledgement to the value of every single second.

    The Glashütte watchmakers have therefore taken all the time necessary to develop

    a manually wound caliber to make the Senator Chronometer the ideal companion

    for the perfect moments in life – and for the moments along the way – with

    its high precision rate and excellent finishing.

    Under the motto „Moments. Seconds. Emotions.“ the first masterpieces with

    official chronometer certificate were presented on Friday, 9 October.

    As a German luxury manufactory, Glashütte Original combined three exclusive addresses:

    the German capital Berlin which is full of history, the majestic grand hotel Adlon

    and its longstanding partner, the retailer Juwelier Leicht.

    More than 30 watch aficionados were invited to the prestigious “Unter den Linden”

    to discover personally the precise and precious watch.

    After a reception at the boutique, the delightful atmosphere of the winter garden of the hotel

    provided the perfect backdrop to the presentation of the watch.

    For Günter Wiegand, Managing Director of Glashütte Original, it was a special moment to present

    the chronometer after more than three years of development.

    The designation 58-01 sees the Senator Chronometer’s caliber modestly following

    the usual nomenclature, even thought its “inner values” are anything but ordinary.

    In additional to its officially certified chronometer precision, a first for the manufactory,

    this movement offers an innovative reset mechanism that has the second hand precisely

    return to zero that makes setting the time much easier.

    The movement designers also premiered a very quick date change at midnight in this caliber.

    Guests could experience both functions as well as the useful day/night indication in animated graphics.

    On the case back an anti-reflective sapphire crystal provides a fascinating view of the artful mechanics:

    the finely decorated three-quarter plate, screw-mounted gold chatons, and the hand-engraved

    balance cock shine in this setting – without a trace of false modesty.

    For emotional insights into this microcosm the manufactory had especially brought along

    a watchmaker to answer all technical questions who also enabled the guests to experience

    for themselves the fascination of the chronometer.

    No other than master chef Mario Gamba guaranteed culinary delights during the evening

    who shared personal stories and anecdotes, thus creating emotionally charged moments in time.

    Watch aficionados can admire the Senator Chronometer until the end of October in

    a special exhibition in the grand hotel Adlon, Berlin.

    Until the end of 2009, this masterpiece will be exclusively distributed by only a few selected partners world-wide.

    Interested watch enthusiasts are invited to contact the sales team of Glashütte Original

    (info@glashuette-original.com) to obtain a list of authorized dealers who will have

    the Senator Chronometer in their stores before Christmas.

    Until then, an animated screensaver can be downloaded that shows the current system time.
    Here's the animation on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4EXOlmCMyA

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    A lot to read :shock:
    If they made it in steel, it would be even more a thing of beauty :drunken: .

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Gasp

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Very beautiful watch but that PR gobbleydegook is almost enough to put me off. Who comes up with that crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark996
    Very beautiful watch but that PR gobbleydegook is almost enough to put me off. Who comes up with that crap?
    Watch firms.

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    Lovely. I would have preferred the gumf to say "This an attractive, well built watch. Buy it if you like it" :roll:
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    That is a magnificent piece.
    The rebirth of German watchmaking is really spectacular, and this piece is a perfect illustration of their ambitions. It is not often that new calibres are developed...

    And yes, the gobbledegook Communication departments and agencies can come up with beggars belief.
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    I particularly enjoyed the
    hand-engraved balance cock
    part...
    :shock:
    I wonder how big it is.
    the diameter, you know, since I like small ones otherwise my wrist hurts after a while.

    sounds weird eh?

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Not bad, but this style has been done better by others :D

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    Not bad, but this style has been done better by others :D
    Not much is really new in watch making; but please do tell :twisted:
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    GO can't be beat for style IMHO.

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    Dial looks exquisite however theere appears to be a quality control issue with the top lug :lol: :lol:

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    Eddie this is a brilliant piece of horology.
    Wow
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    PS Thanx a lot its lovely.

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    Don't like it
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Quote Originally Posted by bubi
    I particularly enjoyed the
    hand-engraved balance cock
    part...
    :shock:
    I wonder how big it is.
    the diameter, you know, since I like small ones otherwise my wrist hurts after a while.

    sounds weird eh?
    :lol: :lol:

    Welcome back Bubi
    Or am I disturbing you with something that involves wrist action :D

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Wow. A real beaut'. Ummm... but they say nothing about really about the watch itself: beat rate, and as someone says balance size, Kif or Incabloc or in-house shock protection, etc. What they did tell us was that a chef told entertaining stories - whatever that has to do with the watch??? :?

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Beautiful, and of exquisite quality, but why pay more??

    http://www.dornblueth.com/flash.php?p=c ... refcal_992

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    Quote Originally Posted by doug darter
    Beautiful, and of exquisite quality, but why pay more??

    http://www.dornblueth.com/flash.php?p=c ... refcal_992
    Panorama datum? White or yellow gold?...
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original

    [quote=Saint-Just]
    Quote Originally Posted by doug darter":3l40a0u0]Beautiful, and of exquisite quality, but why pay more??

    [url="http://www.dornblueth.com/flash.php?p=collection&s=refcal_992
    http://www.dornblueth.com/flash.php?p=c ... refcal_992[/url]
    Panorama datum? White or yellow gold?...[/quote:3l40a0u0]

    Marine Chronometer layout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug darter
    Beautiful, and of exquisite quality, but why pay more??

    http://www.dornblueth.com/flash.php?p=c ... refcal_992
    Because the Glashütte made me go "Wow!" and the dornblueth made me think "thats quite nice".

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    Very nice - I was very tempted by a GO on holiday this year but ended up with an IWC engineer instead .

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdonolix
    That's what I thought, when I first saw it. Probably the sizes are different ... I'll check them when I get round to it.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    It has blue hands, white dial with black Roman numerals, 12-6 sub dials with identical reserve de marche.
    Other than that the GO has a panorama date, and a day/night indicator. not quite the same specs, then. But a common theme, yes.
    The UN is WR 200m...
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    That is so beautiful, just perfect
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Can someone explain the utility of a day/night indicator? Is this for when you get trapped in a windowless room for days on end? Or am I missing something?

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt
    Can someone explain the utility of a day/night indicator? Is this for when you get trapped in a windowless room for days on end? Or am I missing something?
    First and foremost it is an added horological complication, and should be seen as such.
    Second it helps you set the time to avoid date change at noon
    And last, it serves the same purpose as the red hand on a Explorer II
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    First and foremost it is an added horological complication, and should be seen as such.
    Absolutely. How often do most complications honestly get used by most of us, even the potential everyday functions like chronos and GMT hands? It's about knowing they're there, and what's gone into the movement to put them there.

    Love the vast majority of the GO line-up by the way, including this one.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Thanks for sharing, very nice. Too bad about the Roman Numerals..... :shock:

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Don't forget it also has a true in-house movement as well. It doesn't matter how many modifications you make to an ETA, it's still an ETA.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    I just love this watch. I do prefer steel though but the dial and movement are to my personal taste and I think this piece is stunning.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    I would certainly like one!

    GO watches are really my favourites at the moment.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej
    I would certainly like one!
    Me too, but S/S please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej
    GO watches are really my favourites at the moment.
    Mine too.
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    That is a beautiful looking watch and kudos to the company on the movement and for it being a chronometre.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    I think this is the white gold model. I downloaded this photograph several weeks ago and I keep on ogling it.


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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Stunning. There are very few of their models I don't like.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Stunning watch. But Im a bit confused.
    Is it chronometer as a model name, rather than COSC movement.
    I thought that COSC could only be applied to Swiss movements.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by bins
    Stunning watch. But Im a bit confused.
    Is it chronometer as a model name, rather than COSC movement.
    I thought that COSC could only be applied to Swiss movements.
    COSC is the Swiss Certificate.

    Glashutte is an observatory which delivers the certificate as well. As is Besançon, as was Kew...
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Ah I see. Thanks.
    So what are the major chronometer movement certificates?

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by bins
    Ah I see. Thanks.
    So what are the major chronometer movement certificates?
    Any "Master Watchmaker" in Germany can issue his own chronometer certificates to the DIN standard, which is virtually identical to COSC. Dornblüth certified the Dreadnought.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by bins
    Ah I see. Thanks.
    So what are the major chronometer movement certificates?
    Any "Master Watchmaker" in Germany can issue his own chronometer certificates to the DIN standard, which is virtually identical to COSC. Dornblüth certified the Dreadnought.

    Eddie
    Really Eddie?
    I thought it was the Glashutte observatory that did the job; Obviously wrong, then I would have thought that the DN was presented by Dornblüth for certification.

    Could you tell us more please :bounce:
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by bins
    Ah I see. Thanks.
    So what are the major chronometer movement certificates?
    Any "Master Watchmaker" in Germany can issue his own chronometer certificates to the DIN standard, which is virtually identical to COSC. Dornblüth certified the Dreadnought.

    Eddie
    Really Eddie?
    I thought it was the Glashutte observatory that did the job; Obviously wrong, then I would have thought that the DN was presented by Dornblüth for certification.

    Could you tell us more please :bounce:
    My understanding is that to become a Master Watchmaker you have to design and make your own watch movement. Presumably if you can do this, they reckon you're competent to adjust a watch to chronometer standard.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    My understanding is that to become a Master Watchmaker you have to design and make your own watch movement. Presumably if you can do this, they reckon you're competent to adjust a watch to chronometer standard.

    Eddie

    To adjust it, without a doubt.
    But I would have thought there was an independant certification, and that certification involved an independant reference (hence the observatories, from a time where quite a few people did not have a Casio waveceptor :lol:
    Admittedly, the requirement is not the same because of the technology. Yet the recently re-created French certification was homed at the Besançon observatory, in partnership with Kew I believe.

    edit: found it:
    Because the sought after Swiss COSC seal is not available for watches of German origin, the Wempe company has set up a chronometer testing facility in the old "Urania" observatory of Glashütte where testing and calibration can once again be carried out, with the official blessing of the state measurement and calibration services of Thuringia and Saxony and the accreditation of the German Calibration Service, Chronometers, in accordance with the German standard, DIN 8319.

    To this day, German chronometry remains closely linked with the name of the family business. Its origins go back to the foundation of the Hamburger Chronometerwerke, bought in 1939 by Herbert Wempe, who recognised the potential as a training and production establishment for precision timepieces and was soon making ship’s chronometers with a world-wide reputation.

    In the Glashütte chronometer testing facility, however, it is, to begin with, only wristwatches that are certified, the fundamental difference from the Swiss chronometer standard being that DIN 8319 stipulates that it is fully assembled timepieces and not just movements that are to be tested. The strict criteria prescribe inspection and monitoring over a period of 15 days. In the five positions, "crown left", "crown up", "crown down", "face up" and "face down", the average daily gain must lie between -4 and +6 seconds, with an average daily gain deviation of no more than two seconds and a maximum gain deviation no more than five seconds. All watches are tested at temperatures of 23 °C, 8 °C and 38 °C with a relative humidity of approx. 50 %.

    At the end of each 24-hour period, the deviations are measured and the watches wound. On the tenth day of testing, any complicating factors that may be present are applied in order to test their effect on the accuracy. A particular feature of the German standard is that it must be possible to set the watch to the nearest second.

    The services of the Glashütte Chronometer Test Facility are open to all watchmakers, however, capacity is, as yet, limited by the time consuming test procedure.
    HERE
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    All I can tell you is that Dornblüth certified the Dreanought and signed the certificates. I can't believe he would have put his name to something he wasn't allowed to do. Fricker said they had used him before for chronometer certification and he could do it because he was a "Master Watchmaker".



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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    I was not doubting your word for a minute Eddie: You've done it, I only read about it....

    I just though it was possible that Dornbluth presented the dreadnought for certification, got it passed, and signed it to that effect. But I have no problem in bowing to your experience :bigsmurf:
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Btw Eddie, any news on Sewills? :)



    Do you think we will see something like this again in the [s:1kxboms0]near[/s:1kxboms0] distant future? It's actually the ONLY reason I don't get a UN at the moment...
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Btw Eddie, any news on Sewills? :)



    Do you think we will see something like this again in the [s:2q4qzpas]near[/s:2q4qzpas] distant future? It's actually the ONLY reason I don't get a UN at the moment...
    It's planned to produce something similar if I can get the movements. I want to do it with a power reserve at 12 though.

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne
    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Btw Eddie, any news on Sewills? :)



    Do you think we will see something like this again in the [s:3ppdxv0j]near[/s:3ppdxv0j] distant future? It's actually the ONLY reason I don't get a UN at the moment...
    It's planned to produce something similar if I can get the movements. I want to do it with a power reserve at 12 though.

    Eddie
    Great news!!!
    Have you considered Seagull movements Eddie? I seem to remember that there's a movement with exactly this design....
    Or a module?
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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Great, the power-reserve is a great usefull complication.
    Did you ever hear from Seiko? about buying 6R15 movements as an option?

    Cheers,

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    Re: Senator Chronometer from Glashütte Original-more pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Great, the power-reserve is a great usefull complication.
    Did you ever hear from Seiko? about buying 6R15 movements as an option?

    Cheers,

    Daddel.
    I wrote to Seiko twice and never received a reply :( .

    I was hoping to use a NOS Unitas with small seconds for the Sewills. It can be modified quite easily to take a PR, just waiting for an answer on availability and cost.

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