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    Seagull again

    Just found this over at WUS:





    WTF!???

    :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: Seagull again

    Getting better and better :shock:
    I don't know if those movements are already up to scratch, but if so, I,m tempted to try one.

    Cheers,

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    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Re: Seagull again

    Are you shi**in me mate? :shock:
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: Seagull again

    Newbie question; What's WUS...? :?

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    Re: Seagull again

    Watch U Seek.

    A strange place to discuss watches with oppressive moderation.
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Are you shi**in me mate? :shock:
    :shock: :D

    You don't like it?

    Cheers,

    Daddel.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Are you shi**in me mate? :shock:
    something wrong with sea-gull watches?

    http://www.usseagull.com/m177s.htm link found.

    this fella is $140 not the £3.5k of the ultra thin

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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks
    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Are you shi**in me mate? :shock:
    :shock: :D

    You don't like it?

    Cheers,

    Daddel.
    That's a bloody [s:3s0qhe4u]fake[/s:3s0qhe4u] homage if you ask me! I bet the very same case/movement/dial/everything as the fakes from guangzhou!
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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by sbadger
    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    Are you shi**in me mate? :shock:
    something wrong with sea-gull watches?

    http://www.usseagull.com/m177s.htm link found.

    this fella is $140 not the £3.5k of the ultra thin
    That's not a [s:3km4sb5d]fake[/s:3km4sb5d] homage of the Ultra Thin, it's more a [s:3km4sb5d]fake[/s:3km4sb5d] homage of the Master Control in 40mm.
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: Seagull again

    Thank you...

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    Re: Seagull again

    It seems to use a Sea-Gull ST21 - the Sea-Gull version of the ETA 2824.

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    Re: Seagull again

    The date together with the 3 looks so wrong too.
    Not considering the price; I have had enough of Seagull products. Three movements failing is enough. No matter how cheap. While they are capable to produce to good standards, like the movements in the PRS-5 that have been checked over by a watchmaker, they apply some low quality standards and quality controll in their own budget watches. Waste of money. The Homage is not an issue, so many others out there.

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    What really makes my blood boil is the caseback actually. You can clearly see the origins of this one. It's purpose is solely to create the very same look as the JLC.
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: Seagull again

    Seagull produces some high quality movements: the Venus chrono, the Unitas ones and lately some 2824s and 2892s. This high quality movements are almost as good as the swiss (look for Bob´s classic post). And they are not fakes.

    If you ask me about that watch, the movement is not one of the high quality ones mentioned above. Rather, it looks like a cheap movement from a cheap faked watch.And I remind you that what is valuable in a JLC is the movement.......

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    Re: Seagull again

    No different in principal to any of the Rolex or Panerai homage pieces is it :?:

    Why get so excited (negative) about it :?

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    They have a few tourbillon watches from $4000 upwards. Does anybody actually order these?

    http://www.usseagull.com/st8007g.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowman
    No different in principal to any of the Rolex or Panerai homage pieces is it :?:

    Why get so excited (negative) about it :?
    Actually I don't know :lol: :lol:

    It's just that they obviously want to conquer the US and European market and I thought they'd have finally "grown up".
    Seagull isn't small, so we're not talking about a niche producer. They should now try to get some interesting watches done.

    I'm not sure who creates the cases for sea-gull. Are they doing them in-house? If yes, why an exact copy of the JLC back?

    Did the fake industry ask for that? Do they have the same suppliers? Do they produce for the fake industry?

    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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    Re: Seagull again

    Perhaps we should ask not why Sea Gull feel the need to clone other watches, but perhaps whether JLC source their cases from the same manufacturer? It's possible, isn't it?

    D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMR
    Perhaps we should ask not why Sea Gull feel the need to clone other watches, but perhaps whether JLC source their cases from the same manufacturer? It's possible, isn't it?

    D.
    No way. The lugs are completely different.
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    Re: Seagull again

    I will only add that I remain smitten by my SG 1963.

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    Re: Seagull again

    I love mine too! It's definitely on of the nicest watches out there - and it's a honest watch!



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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by mr1973
    I love mine too! It's definitely on of the nicest watches out there - and it's a honest watch!

    that is quite charming... where did you get it from?

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    Re: Seagull again

    From the best AD in the real world. Sales Corner :lol:
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    Re: Seagull again

    Several of us bought from here: http://www.watchunique.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring
    Several of us bought from here: http://www.watchunique.com/
    me too, and I really like it.

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    Re: Seagull again

    I have one and it's really beautiful. Bit small for my 8.25 wrists though. That Seagull on topic is available for about £90 delivered. Very tempting especially with the JLC reference :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventura
    I have one and it's really beautiful. Bit small for my 8.25 wrists though. That Seagull on topic is available for about £90 delivered. Very tempting especially with the JLC reference :D
    Aaaaaaaaaaargh!!!



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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring
    It seems to use a Sea-Gull ST21 - the Sea-Gull version of the ETA 2824.
    No.

    The movement is an ST16, better decorated than usual, but still an ST16.

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    Re: Seagull again

    I like mine. :)




    cheers,
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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowman
    No different in principal to any of the Rolex or Panerai homage pieces is it :?:

    Why get so excited (negative) about it :?
    I know, some people really get their Y fronts in a right twist, it's only another Homage watch.
    A great buy, for people that are terminally short of cash :)

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    Re: Seagull again

    What's the difference between this Seagull and the SBIII?

    They are both homages... Neither is intending to be the IWC or JLC.

    What's all the fuss about?

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    Re: Seagull again

    Liking my seagull powered Time factors watch

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    Re: Seagull again

    I have a master control memovox with a very similar face to the watch this is clearly referencing but I'm not offended by this - it does say seagull on the front

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    Re: Seagull again

    Quote Originally Posted by gregflat9
    What's the difference between this Seagull and the SBIII?

    They are both homages... Neither is intending to be the IWC or JLC.

    What's all the fuss about?
    Beats me. It doesn't say Jaeger LeCoultre on the front, or even Haider LeChiffre, or anything that could remotely be mistaken for JLC. Yes, I take the point that it's very similar, but if using a slimline case with dagger indices and quarter arabics in a 30s-style font and dauphine hands is illegal because Jaeger LeCoultre (Peace Be Upon Them?) uses them, then please feel free to vilify this one. Which I bought, and never once made the JLC connection because I just don't know (or care) enough about them:

    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    Re: Seagull again

    My Sea-Gull M222S is my favourite watch most of the time. It is beautifully finished and not an homage to any particular watch as far as I know. It blew me away the first time I strapped it on, and I still smile every time I take it out of the box. I urge any doubters to take a look at one before you make up your mind about Sea Gull. It's a peach!

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