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    TZ-UK Glossary

    With a raft of newbies signing up each week I thought a TZ-UK glossary would be useful for those less knowledgeable on forum lingo...

    710
    Wife or girlfriend

    Bump
    Blank post to bring a topic up to the top of a forum

    AD
    Authorized Dealer

    AFAIK
    As far as I know

    Beater
    Daily wearer

    BNIB
    Brand new in box

    DN
    PRS2 Dreadnought

    Eddie Platts (Swanbourne)
    Site owner

    FFS
    For F*ck Sake

    Flipper
    Frequent SC user

    FSOT
    For Sale Or Trade

    GLWTS
    Good Luck With The Sale

    Grail
    Your must have watch

    HAGWE
    Have A Good/Great Weekend!

    IIRC
    If I remember correctly

    IMHO
    In my humble opinion

    Keeper
    Watch you intend on keeping

    LMAO
    Laugh my ass off

    Lol
    Laugh out loud / lots of laughter

    MM
    Marine Militaire or Marine Master

    NOS
    New Old Stock

    OHPF
    On hold, pending funds

    OT
    Off Topic / Or Trade (as in For Sale Or Trade - FSOT)

    PAM
    Officine Panerai Watch

    PO
    Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean

    RMSD
    Royal Mail Special Delivery

    SC
    Sales Corner

    SD
    Rolex Sea-Dweller or Seiko Spring Drive

    Seiko OM
    Seiko Orange Monster

    SO
    Breitling Super Ocean

    SOTC
    State Of The Collection

    Timefactors
    Eddie's online store

    Toshi
    Strap making forum member

    Wabi
    Japanese concept wabi-sabi, beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete" (according to Leonard Koren in his book Wabi-Sabi: for Artists, Designers, Poets and Philosophers). Also as an acronym, Worn And Broken In, used to describe watches with marks related to age and use.

    WHY
    What Have You

    WIS
    Watch Idiot Savant
    Something that almost all savants have in common is a prodigious memory of a special type
    An idiot savant is a person with both autism and savant skills. Idiot savants may have mental abilities called splinter skills. The term idiot savant was first used to describe the condition in 1887 by Dr. John Langdon Down.


    WLTT
    Would Like To Trade

    Keep them coming...

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Great idea, thanks. took me ages to work out OHPF (on hold, pending funds)

    What's BNIB?

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Keeper:

    Nice watch, but it will be for sale next week.

    Grail:

    Brilliant watch for which I have been saving, and searching for years. It will be for sale next week.

    Beater:

    Word used to describe watch in poor condition, which will almost certainly be for sale next week if I can find anybody daft enough to buy it.

    Flipper:

    A member known as Ben Clapperton.

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    BNIB
    Brand New in Box

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    FSOT = For Sale Or Trade
    WHY = What Have You

    Both Very important
    :mrgreen:

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    A2M - A$$ to............sorry, wrong forum :D
    Respect the past, live the present, protect the future

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Can someone explain the percentages that show up in SC? Ta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishtrunkmonkey
    A2M - A$$ to............sorry, wrong forum :D
    damn, beat me to it :lol:

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Delta
    Can someone explain the percentages that show up in SC? Ta.
    It's based on the TimeZone (US Forum) rating of watches:

    Grading system

    Please keep in mind that to be listed on a TimeZone sales board, a watch must be pre-owned and have been worn. Pre-owned means sold to a retail customer and no open papers.

    LNIB

    A pre-owned watch that has been worn, yet is in perfect condition. Accompanied by the factory box(es), tags and documentation. No alterations from factory-delivered condition. The warranty papers must be stamped to establish the authenticity and validity of the watch - TimeZone does not allow sales of watches with "open papers." No bracelet resizing or marks of any kind. 100%

    Mint

    A pre-owned watch that is in very nearly perfect condition. Signs of wear are visible with a low powered loupe. May be a watch that is in LNIB condition but not accompanied by the factory box(es) or documentation. May refer to an older watch that has been restored, so long as the restoration returned the watch to very nearly perfect factory original condition. Working perfectly, keeping excellent time, needs nothing. 98-100%

    Near Mint

    Showing very light signs of wear. Faint scratches on the case, bezel, bracelet or buckle are visible to the naked eye. Completely original in every way. Strap shows light use - may be bent or lightly creased, but not stained. Bracelet may be resized. The watch is working perfectly, keeping very good time and needs nothing. 93-97%

    Excellent

    Evidence of use is visible to the unaided eye. Scratches are light, but more numerous than "near mint". If the watch has been restored, all original replacement parts have been used. Strap clearly used but no stains. No dents or dings are detectable, and the bracelet has little wear. Working perfectly, needs no repair or service. 88-92%

    Very good

    The watch shows what might be considered normal wear by a careful owner who wore the watch regularly. Scratches are evident, but no nicks or dings. May have replacement parts and/or a high quality redial. Running and keeping good time, though may need minor regulation. A sound, attractive presentation overall. 83-87%

    Good

    Nothing fundamentally wrong with the watch, though it has quite obviously been used. Running and wearable, but may gain or lose a few minutes over 24 hours. Case may show a few dings, nicks, or deep scratches. May have a redial that is not up to high standards. May not have all original parts. 77-82%

    Fair

    Well used, may require service and/or restoration to be useable. May be running erratically. Dial, case, and other major components may not be original, but no pieces are missing. Even an untrained eye could tell the watch is worse for wear. Some might call it rough. 72-76%

    Poor

    Shows abuse, requires service and/or restoration. May have major cosmetic flaws, missing parts, may not run at all. A speculative piece - 'fixer-upper' would be too generous. Not junk, but requires lots of work to be made wearable. 66-71%

    Scrap / Parts

    A collection of parts that at one time may have been a functioning timekeeper. Now missing parts, may be rusted or corroded, not worth restoring. Most people would call it junk. 64% or worse.

    Your watch description must expressly state one of the grades set out above, or an intermediate grade. If your watch does not fall precisely into one of the grades, you may use an intermediate indication such as "Good +" and provide a description of why an intermediate grade was used, for example "cosmetically rough, but just received a full mechanical overhaul, new strap, and runs perfectly."

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by doug darter
    Keeper:

    Nice watch, but it will be for sale next week.

    Grail:

    Brilliant watch for which I have been saving, and searching for years. It will be for sale next week.

    Beater:

    Word used to describe watch in poor condition, which will almost certainly be for sale next week if I can find anybody daft enough to buy it.

    Flipper:

    A member known as Ben Clapperton.
    Haha! Falling off my office chair here! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    wabi Japanese concept wabi-sabi, beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete" (according to Leonard Koren in his book Wabi-Sabi: for Artists, Designers, Poets and Philosophers). Also as an acronym, Worn And Broken In, used to describe watches with marks related to age and use.

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonmurgie
    Quote Originally Posted by D-Delta
    Can someone explain the percentages that show up in SC? Ta.
    It's based on the TimeZone (US Forum) rating of watches:
    Much sense, this makes. Thanks.

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    Useful guide - thanks!

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    i have to go right now however if anyone wants to explain
    710

    seiko om

    mm
    if not will do it when i get back

    bfn
    by for now

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by sangman
    i have to go right now however if anyone wants to explain
    710

    seiko om

    mm
    if not will do it when i get back

    bfn
    by for now
    seiko orange monster

    marine militaire

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    mm could also be Marine Master

    710 wife or girlfriend

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Thanks for starting up this useful thread Chris :thumbright:

    small contribution :

    WLTT = Would Like To Trade

    (hope this is correct ... :lol: :lol: )

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    If you want a repository for all this, http://www.bluwiki.com is excellent and free.

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    This thread would be useful to pass on to newbies when they introduce themselves.

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishtrunkmonkey
    A2M - A$$ to............sorry, wrong forum :D
    :D

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    I've always liked the definition -

    Chronometer - A watch of proven inaccuracy.


    Not much help but it made me laugh. :lol:

    Dave

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    Thank f*ck for that - the longer I went without knowing what the bloody hell WIS stood for, the harder it was to post a thread to ask.

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    SD - Rolex Sea-Dweller or Seiko Spring Drive

    SO - Breitling Super Ocean

    STM - Scottish Trans-gender Male

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob
    STM - Scottish Trans-gender Male
    B1tch
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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by alexaff
    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishtrunkmonkey
    A2M - A$$ to............sorry, wrong forum :D
    damn, beat me to it :lol:
    :D me too
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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by darrenw
    Thank f*ck for that - the longer I went without knowing what the bloody hell WIS stood for, the harder it was to post a thread to ask.
    :lol: I thought I was the only one!

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishtrunkmonkey
    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob
    STM - Scottish Trans-gender Male
    B1tch
    Sorry

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    So that's what OHPF means. Thanks.

    But then again I'm slow to catch on. I've been here since may and I only got the Mods and Wreckers joke last week.

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    Useful guide. What is AD?
    How does 710 translate to wife?

    Excuse ignorance.

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    ^^^

    on hold pending funds :wink:

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    Hmm... what do you call a watch that is in exactly 65% condition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draz
    Hmm... what do you call a watch that is in exactly 65% condition?

    wrote off :mrgreen:

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    AD = Authorized Dealer

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    AFAIK - as far as i know

    IIRC - if i recall

    :wink: - license to say almost anything

    Bump - blank post to bring a topic up to the top of a forum, mainly because someone wants it to be seen. Because they're selling it!

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by Galea
    wabi Japanese concept wabi-sabi, beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete" (according to Leonard Koren in his book Wabi-Sabi: for Artists, Designers, Poets and Philosophers).
    Just amazon'd this book. All thanks to you. You had to be clever and show off you knew it. Cheers :twisted: :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPF
    :wink: - license to say almost anything.
    That made me lmfao 8)

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by draz
    Hmm... what do you call a watch that is in exactly 65% condition?
    Near mint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian99
    Quote Originally Posted by CPF
    :wink: - license to say almost anything.
    That made me lmfao 8)
    and me lmfsao :lol:
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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by CPF
    Quote Originally Posted by Galea
    wabi Japanese concept wabi-sabi, beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete" (according to Leonard Koren in his book Wabi-Sabi: for Artists, Designers, Poets and Philosophers).
    Just amazon'd this book. All thanks to you. You had to be clever and show off you knew it. Cheers :twisted: :wink:
    Its amazing what wikipedia can tell you :lol:

    Never heard of the book before, if its a good one, let me know :)

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    IDWTTMGTSE

    I don't want to teach my grandmother to suck eggs ... but I'm going to try.

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    Thanks a million for the info, and perfect timing for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdwiow
    Useful guide. What is AD?
    How does 710 translate to wife?

    Excuse ignorance.
    It's a punchline to a joke about women drivers - woman goes to garage looking for some "710", demanding it, even, saying that there's a filler cap under the bonnet with that written on it' Turns out, it's the oil filler cap, but upside-down.

    I prefer 'SHMBO' for the wife (she who must be obeyed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol
    Quote Originally Posted by rdwiow
    Useful guide. What is AD?
    How does 710 translate to wife?

    Excuse ignorance.
    It's a punchline to a joke about women drivers - woman goes to garage looking for some "710", demanding it, even, saying that there's a filler cap under the bonnet with that written on it' Turns out, it's the oil filler cap, but upside-down.

    I prefer 'SHMBO' for the wife (she who must be obeyed).
    Actually prefer Sd = she devil because I've yet to meet an angel although mine can be nice sometimes

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    FFS = you might wish to reflect, quietly, on what you just said.
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    WTF - A somewhat surprising post/idea/statement/sale price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangman
    This thread would be useful to pass on to newbies when they introduce themselves.
    Yes, I learnt a lot in 5 minutes...

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by doug darter
    Keeper:

    Nice watch, but it will be for sale next week.

    Grail:

    Brilliant watch for which I have been saving, and searching for years. It will be for sale next week.

    Beater:

    Word used to describe watch in poor condition, which will almost certainly be for sale next week if I can find anybody daft enough to buy it.

    Flipper:

    A member known as Ben Clapperton.
    just seen this - brilliant :lol:

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    Re: TZ-UK Glossary

    Quote Originally Posted by Griswold
    FFS = you might wish to reflect, quietly, on what you just said.
    Or For Sale, if afflicted with a mild stutter or temporary stage fright.

    WTB: Want To Buy,

    WTD: Want To Die. (Least that's how I read it.)
    ...but what do I know; I don't even like watches!

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    "Thanks Crusader" - Sign that the thread is about to go wildly out of control and possibly expand to gargantuan (yet irrelevant) length.
    Dave E

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    = There will be no DN re-edition
    I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

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