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    Pam 05 long arrow

    Recently I’ve been looking into this,now it’s not a secret and I’m sure a lot of people will know about this,so they can probably add to the thread,but hopefully this is news to some.
    The Pam 195 was introduced in the early 2000s as a paneristi edition,you were able to have your name engraved on the back.

    You will see in the top picture the arrows pointing up and down are a different length to the standard logo below.
    Once this run of 195s were done there was estimated 100 dials left,which were used for the G series Pam 05.
    According to some information I’ve read some of the owners of these had the cases pvd coated so they were like a 195,now leaving even less 05s.
    These 05 long arrows now command a premium,were are not talking Rolex type premium,but if you do have an 05 it may be worth checking,or if you are in the market you may drop lucky.


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    I had a short arrow and long arrow at the same time. Have a photo somewhere I’ll dig out. Both 005’s now sold on here a while back.

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    That last thing the WIS world needs is another brand where mid run component changes carry a premium.

    I think people try too hard to make their lovely and desirable, but otherwise unremarkable watches somehow magically remarkable.
    "Bite my shiny metal ass."
    - Bender Bending Rodríguez

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    I'm always 1/0 on the lookout for a long arrow 005. There are also some with a number 3 with a longer top cross piece from memory too. The long arrow logo visually looks miles better too.

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    can't argue with that logic....but then when did logic come in to this hobby? These were my two, i did perhaps like the long arrow a little more, but only because I knew. In reality i could barely tell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tz-uk73 View Post
    can't argue with that logic....but then when did logic come in to this hobby? These were my two, i did perhaps like the long arrow a little more, but only because I knew. In reality i could barely tell.

    What a perfect photo for this post. Aesthetically much better.

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    I have a ‘long arrow’ 005 which is 0043/1000. ‘Back in the day’ I was a total nerd about these things and I seem to remember that the highest confirmed number of the edition, with this dial, was 0085 or 0086. It seemed that anything after than was the newer logo. I suppose the real attraction was/is that this long arrow logo is the same as the early ‘90s pre-Vendome 5218/201A and yes, while the difference is subtle, it is more aesthetically pleasing.
    At that time I also had a PAM 0027, power reserve, and a PAM 0029 GMT with a tuxedo dial. Both those are gone and just the ‘long arrow’ and a preA 1. Since then I’ve lost interest in the recent Panerai models but intend to hang onto the two I have.

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