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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    Yes but I think folk also often refer to that when speaking about trusted forum members for example, and I guess my point is you can be an honest seller and still be selling a dud unknowingly.
    I bought a Sub Date 16610 through the forum a couple of years ago. I think I was the third person on here to buy it.

    I went through so many worries when it needed a service of where to send it. In the end I took it to Rolex Kings Hill service centre. My biggest fear was them telling me it wasn’t the real deal or it was full of non oem parts and refusing to work on it. In the end it was all fine but I did have a few sleepless nights.

    Ironically I wore it pretty much every day from when I bought it until it stopped working, since getting it back in December it’s unworn and I’m now considering selling it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    I'm also cautious of the buy-the-seller mantra when it comes to expensive watches, unless the seller is the original owner of the watch or an actual expert. They may be totally trustworthy, but that's not going to help if they bought a dodgy watch and don't have the expertise to identify it (as I certainly don't have the expertise to do so!).
    I think to be fair that sort of expectation is bound up in the buy-the-seller mantra: i.e. is the seller the sort of person who has some expertise, or has done some due diligence via someone who has, and not merely are they a good egg.

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    The main trait you need in a seller is the confidence that they would react appropriately if there was a problem.

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    Funnily enough. A good friend of mine whose not in to watches, but wanted to get a significant watch for the birth of his 2nd child, only really wanted a Rolex, put his name down for a Sub no date after a bit of window shopping with me, this was in Bluewater back in September 23, friend was working in the TV industry and having the money straight away no issue.

    Fast forward to last year & received some terrible news regarding his health, now a complete lifestyle change, moved away from the big city, no work, cheaper mortgage etc.

    Just messaged me to say he’s received the call the Subs available!

    Completely forgot about it, and we both thought was only 6m ago.


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    I waited a matter of weeks for my Sub ND after asking about one. Picked up January 2023.

    Had an established buying history with the AD and was surprised how quickly it came.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    I waited a matter of weeks for my Sub ND after asking about one. Picked up January 2023.

    Had an established buying history with the AD and was surprised how quickly it came.
    I was assured I could have an Explorer 40 inside just a couple of months. I´d walked into a watch place in a mall in Philly, very casually dressed with no history or references.
    Oh and the shop fella did a wee bow when he gave me his business card, neither of us Japanese but he did that present his bizzo card with both hands thing, bless him for trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest76 View Post
    Why would any sane person humiliate themselves like this,I immediately think of serfs throwing themselves at the feet of there masters hoping to chew the last meat of the bone.

    If I see anyone wearing a new Rolex watch all I can think of is how low has this man gone and demeaned himself,I have zero respect for them.
    What a strange comment. Aside from the fact that it would not be possible to know whether the watch was new or not, surely. You cannot really be so readily judgmental to base your entire opinion of an individual’s character on the watch that s/he wears?

    As it happens, I bought a new Rolex watch last week…demeaning myself in the process, evidently. Good grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger;[emoji6[emoji640
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    Oh and the shop fella did a wee bow when he gave me his business card, neither of us Japanese but he did that present his bizzo card with both hands thing, bless him for trying.
    What a waste of effort, if only he’’d known he was dealing with the world’s biggest lowballer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11erv View Post
    What a strange comment. Aside from the fact that it would not be possible to know whether the watch was new or not, surely. You cannot really be so readily judgmental to base your entire opinion of an individual’s character on the watch that s/he wears?

    As it happens, I bought a new Rolex watch last week…demeaning myself in the process, evidently. Good grief.
    I did smile when I first read his, as you say, rather strange comment.

    Anyone paying attention over the years would be well aware that there are plenty of prominent members on here who tend to end up with the models they request new from an AD without buying stuff they don’t want, nor by treating it other than as a retail purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    What a waste of effort, if only he’’d known he was dealing with the world’s biggest lowballer.
    chortle Did the sales wallah a favour, kept him on his toes, a chance to polish his patter. ;)
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    We do love a 'Rolex - comment and get your hopes up' thread...........................

    It's like "Field of Dreams" : "If you talk about it - it will happen"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbn13 View Post
    I did smile when I first read his, as you say, rather strange comment.

    Anyone paying attention over the years would be well aware that there are plenty of prominent members on here who tend to end up with the models they request new from an AD without buying stuff they don’t want, nor by treating it other than as a retail purchase.
    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbn13 View Post
    I did smile when I first read his, as you say, rather strange comment.

    Anyone paying attention over the years would be well aware that there are plenty of prominent members on here who tend to end up with the models they request new from an AD without buying stuff they don’t want, nor by treating it other than as a retail purchase.
    Agreed (but in no way a prominent member).


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    Quote Originally Posted by 11erv View Post
    What a strange comment. Aside from the fact that it would not be possible to know whether the watch was new or not, surely. You cannot really be so readily judgmental to base your entire opinion of an individual’s character on the watch that s/he wears?

    As it happens, I bought a new Rolex watch last week…demeaning myself in the process, evidently. Good grief.
    Careful, he will now pm you for a phone call, so he can pity w@nk himself off as he can’t run or fight or defend himself. That is what I got from him a fortnight ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbyf View Post
    Agreed (but in no way a prominent member).


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    That does look so good. 14060M worm today & removed as I’m cooking & rather hit the Apple Watch on something. The ceramic insert really does look so different.


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    Another fruitless journey into the AD. Still a big waitlist apparently.

    Coffee was good, the chat was pleasant. So will just have to continue waiting


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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest76 View Post
    Why would any sane person humiliate themselves like this,I immediately think of serfs throwing themselves at the feet of there masters hoping to chew the last meat of the bone.

    If I see anyone wearing a new Rolex watch all I can think of is how low has this man gone and demeaned himself,I have zero respect for them.

    Without doubt if they were freely available 90% wouldnt want one anyway,its a watch that I have no desire to own (thats a relief to you and me).
    You have a very active imagination. I know people who own Rolexes but I don't know anyone who has 'demeaned' themselves to get them!
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    I’ve never accepted the coffee or bubbles offers, just feels weird in a watch shop for me. Perhaps I’m doing it wrong lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    You have a very active imagination. I know people who own Rolexes but I don't know anyone who has 'demeaned' themselves to get them!
    I've had a few sports Rolex's over the years, and no, I did not demean myself purchasing.
    But in them olden days you could walk into an AD with the full range in the window display and just buy one. My last was a 16570 GMT from Upchurch Colchester, 2023, long gone, for £2,250. At the time there was every sub' variant in the window with Explorers & a Yachtmaster.
    Happy days then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nealywheelie View Post
    I've had a few sports Rolex's over the years, and no, I did not demean myself purchasing.
    But in them olden days you could walk into an AD with the full range in the window display and just buy one. My last was a 16570 GMT from Upchurch Colchester, 2003, long gone, for £2,250. At the time there was every sub' variant in the window with Explorers & a Yachtmaster.
    Happy days then.


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    Sorry peeps, meant 2003, Doh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nealywheelie View Post
    Sorry peeps, meant 2003, Doh!

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    And since then they’ve become much harder to get, much, much more expensive and thankfully much, much, much more shiny and flashy. Thank goodness, if I liked the current models I’d be frustrated and broke!


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    Quote Originally Posted by NickGaters View Post
    I keep hearing weeks or months BUT I've been on a list for the 124060 just over a year now and annoyingly I know of people on here who have gotten one from the same AD here in Leeds much faster than me i.e they were added to the list much later than me and got offered one much faster than me - I'm still waiting BTW.

    Feels like it's a std BS lottery still.

    (As a result I decided not to play the game and went grey for a BLNR and added a Pelagos P39 to cover the no date diver angle instead).
    So if you really wanted a 124060 why go grey for a BLNR? Why not just go grey for the 124060 you wanted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nealywheelie View Post
    I've had a few sports Rolex's over the years, and no, I did not demean myself purchasing.
    But in them olden days you could walk into an AD with the full range in the window display and just buy one. My last was a 16570 GMT from Upchurch Colchester, 2023, long gone, for £2,250. At the time there was every sub' variant in the window with Explorers & a Yachtmaster.
    Happy days then.

    Bought my Milgauss from Upchurch. I remember the watch being unveiled at Basel 2007 and me calling Upchurch immediately to buy one. Got the first that came in to the store.

    An easier time. Liked that AD. Shame it went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nealywheelie View Post
    My last was a 16570 GMT from Upchurch Colchester
    [16750. 16570 was the Explorer II.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom-P View Post
    [16750. 16570 was the Explorer II.]
    Sorry, meant 16710. Doh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    So if you really wanted a 124060 why go grey for a BLNR? Why not just go grey for the 124060 you wanted?
    Yeah it is weird.

    Guessing future resale vs wearing what was wanted.

    Very strange indeed.

    Wanted M4 but waiting list, so bought an M5 via higher priced greys, that will teach them a lesson.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    So if you really wanted a 124060 why go grey for a BLNR? Why not just go grey for the 124060 you wanted?
    Because I really wanted the BLNR for such a long time and couldn't get it, I did the typical man thing of thinking I should get on the list for something that was maybe achievable and hence the 124060..

    Bit like when the Black Bay Heritage with in house movement first came out, I thought I would sell my 114060, pocket the cash and be satisfied with the Black Bay. Expensive lessons learned by me: just pick the watch you actually really, really want and do whatever is necessary to get it. No such thing as a consolation watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    Yeah it is weird.

    Guessing future resale vs wearing what was wanted.

    Very strange indeed.

    Wanted M4 but waiting list, so bought an M5 via higher priced greys, that will teach them a lesson.


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    Not really. Future resale doesn't really bother me as this won't be going anywhere - it was a special occasion watch (and if anything with the downturn in second hand prices I'd be losing more if I flogged the grey purchased BLNR than had I bought the 124060 at retail and sold it on).

    No lesson for the dealer intended either: they won't know I now have a BLNR or where it came from. if they do ever call me for the 124060 I'm likely still on a list for there's no dramas I'll just politely say no thanks, they'll hang up the phone and just sell it to the next guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickGaters View Post
    Because I really wanted the BLNR for such a long time and couldn't get it, I did the typical man thing of thinking I should get on the list for something that was maybe achievable and hence the 124060..

    Bit like when the Black Bay Heritage with in house movement first came out, I thought I would sell my 114060, pocket the cash and be satisfied with the Black Bay. Expensive lessons learned by me: just pick the watch you actually really, really want and do whatever is necessary to get it. No such thing as a consolation watch.
    Fair enough, I can understand that.
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