Reply With QuoteNot sure why you are intent on dragging me into anything that you think involves esysman?Originally Posted by PickleB
Edit- Actually, I do, but the below still applies:
Suggest you Foxtrot Oscar.
First a health warning:
And I stand by my comment. Whilst his presentation and some content leaves something to be desired, he does appear to be putting the effort into what he reports:
Whilst this had been reported in the news (BBClink) I haven't seen anything very revealing from other sources, eg the Independent.
Last edited by PickleB; 8th February 2025 at 11:40.
Not sure why you are intent on dragging me into anything that you think involves esysman?
Edit- Actually, I do, but the below still applies:
Suggest you Foxtrot Oscar.
Sorry you found something to be upset about. I included your post because, although I've followed the website, I was becoming similarly disenchanted with its content. But, IMO, it does sometimes report something interesting...such as the above.
Not at all sure why you're upset but I assure you that was not my intention. My apologies for having caused you some offence. However, it is not my intention to take your advice.
I have watched a few of his videos before and found them informative.
Though as I dont have a super yacht Ive no idea how accurate he is.
I love dive watches but as I have become more and more claustrophobic I wouldnt want to dive anywhere.
You whine way too much.
Aside from being on a wreck dive, how can you be claustrophobic with the entire ocean around you, literally the expanse of water cliche.
Warm water diving would be good for your hands too.
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Claustrophobia is not that uncommon a sensation when you've got all the gear on - the mask and regulator can be pretty oppressive for some then combined with restricted movement of the other gear it can be pretty grim.
I found diving helped mine, but certainly not the case for all.
You have been drinking yet again.
If you want a fight join the Army and leave me out of it.
Wife has always found a mask helped open up a view & remove any claustrophobic feeling despite suffering usually. As have my ex gfs, so assumed a mask helps with it.
Perhaps head above water I can get, but once below in the ocean treasures it is rapidly forgotten.
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You don’t have to be in a confined space.
I had it when locked in the hold of a big ship,when lost in very narrow streets in Marrakesh and in Granada.
It stems from being crushed at a football match pre Hillsborough that the police and club denied happened.
Bing pushed into a wall and unable to even get my arms up.
After a 2 week all inclusive, we are both giving ourselves a booze break as of Saturday & before the festive period. So very wrong there.
Your non SAK bladed SC post said it all, apparently speaking to someone in charge to smooth the way, on a checked in bag, or was it carry on, you flounced about way too much for me to care, or understand.
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Oh well...my simple purpose was, by means of the video, to draw to the attention of recreational divers, and in general, to the issue of ill equipped / unsafe vessels being used to provide diving holidays. However it seems that the thread has taken another turn.
Please remember that this is in the G&D...carry on.
I do worry about some of the terminology you use like "flounced"are you supressing something?
Where abouts in Berkshire are you we can meet up and you can buy me a coffee (as long as you arent drinking that is) things and people are far different in real life.
Though you will need to bring a sense of humour and lighten up.
Have dived the red sea literally more times than I can remember. Accidents happen. I've never felt unsafe. Had more issues with Egyptian hotel food then dive boat food. That yacht that sank recently in the storm was the pinnacle of technology but still sank.
Life's too short to worry about stuff like that.
I dived in Cambodia with my daughter on a boat that must have been at least 40 years old. Best dive crew and boat ever. If you worry about stuff like that just don't go out or cross the road. Life is risky but enjoying life is amazing.
The biggest question is not its compass or GPS but why it set sail knowing the weather was terrible and that advice was not to leave port?
MAIB Safety bulletin 1/2025 published
Link to 2025 SB1 Red Sea Dive Boats (pdf).
I did plenty of diving in Egypt before it was deemed unsafe (top part) and it was wonderful. Never felt unsafe at the hands of any crew or guides. I also have dived in Mossel Bay in South Africa with Great White Sharks, although that was cage diving so a weighed up measure of danger involved :)
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We did the Great Whites in SA too, were you out by Seal Island by chance?
Yeap, we were:) We did whale watching the following day so a bit of a chill day. Needless to say I didn’t go swimming in the sea as I’d hate to get mistaken for a seal!
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I’ve dived in Egypt, never again. The whole set up was sketchy. One dive ended with people all over the place. Safety was not a priority.
Egypt is not a place I would want to return to …
I had a similar experience in Zanzibar.
Darn right...thoroughly intimidated from safely inside the cage.
I’d take a book with you!
I've done almost all of my 52 dives in the Red Sea at Marsa Alam so further south but I'd disagree with most of the comments above.
The dive schools I've used have been very professional and thorough and have never, to my knowledge, taken risks with the safety and their responsibility to their wards.
It is a great place to dive.
I’m sure there are some reputable operators… the the accident record isn’t flash …
Personally, like any holiday or holiday activity you need to choose your provider carefully. Scuba diving itself has many hazards and so you would want to dive with a reputable organisation where safety is taken seriously.
I have done many trips to Egypt for liveaboard holidays and each has been wonderful with good boats where safety briefings have been robust with demonstrations of the safety equipment.
Also never had the issue of group separation even when on drift dives where the risk is greater.
On reading these reports, I don’t feel that they add any further knowledge to what is already known.
It was a drift dive along a wall, current turned out to be much stronger than the anticipated with down current. People everywhere, dive master and a few others were in floods of tears when they eventually scooped everyone up. It was quite exciting… but I don’t fancy a repeat.
To be fair, that can happen anywhere with currents and is, to a degree, down to the experience of the divers. I had it in Indonesia and someone I know had a far worse experience in the same place.
Maldives and Galapagos also have strong currents and limited numbers of dive guides per boat.
When I learnt to dive (in Sharm) you needed 50 logged dives to go to the Thistlegorm, nowadays you can go if you pay and have AOW or similar.
Too many dive centres/boats and too few divers is the problem at the moment.
I've dived a few times in the Red Sea and never felt in any more danger than in other places, but I do feel safety standards have dropped over the last couple of decades and not just in the Red Sea.
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Gave up with wreck dives as got fed up with inexperienced divers bouncing their tanks off the ceilings & stirring up silt when they were on the floor. Just got frustrating, never dangerous with experience, just could not see anything.
Fast drift dives were always exciting, never ceased to amaze me the power of the sea & how it needed to be respected.
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Indeed, it was inexperience. I think it was the diver masters first dive as a lead. She’d done a pre dive inspection.
We clocked the strong current and tucked in close to the wall, it was almost comedic watching the rest of our group go whizzing past in the current. People panicking and surfacing early … was chaos.
That said I wasn’t that impressed with the boat and the staff, and I’d checked reviews.
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