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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Do you ever wonder how much child benefit is actually spent on the children?
    Guy in the pub moaning about the 2 child rule, suspect his family allowance(child benefit) was going over the bar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitfitter View Post
    Guy in the pub moaning about the 2 child rule, suspect his family allowance(child benefit) was going over the bar!

    Uh-oh! If you get family allowance - you ain’t allowed a beer or two? What about holidays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Do you ever wonder how much child benefit is actually spent on the children?
    Not really the same is it. You have children and they are an ongoing cost, heating you can choose to use or not use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbh View Post
    Not really the same is it. You have children and they are an ongoing cost, heating you can choose to use or not use.
    Yeah, I suppose you can choose to not use the heating and die of hypothermia instead. Selfish pensioners expecting to be able to keep warm in the winter, eh?

    Having children is a choice. It's not like they are distributed to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Do you ever wonder how much child benefit is actually spent on the children?
    What like food and heating of the home or do people not feed children or heat their rooms. School uniforms, clothes and shoes. A day out to the seaside and an ice cream.

    What point are you trying to make? Whatever it is, it doesn't surprise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    What like food and heating of the home or do people not feed children or heat their rooms. School uniforms, clothes and shoes. A day out to the seaside and an ice cream.

    What point are you trying to make? Whatever it is, it doesn't surprise me.

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    Millionaires and the very well-off get child benefit too.
    Why not means test that as well while they're at it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    What like food and heating of the home or do people not feed children or heat their rooms. School uniforms, clothes and shoes. A day out to the seaside and an ice cream.

    What point are you trying to make? Whatever it is, it doesn't surprise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    Millionaires and the very well-off get child benefit too.
    Why not means test that as well while they're at it?
    Technically they do but it gets clawed back from anyone earning £60k or more so the net result is the same as if they weren't eligible for it in the first place.

    A very round-about way of means testing and I wonder how expensive it is to administer. It feels very inefficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimm View Post
    Technically they do but it gets clawed back from anyone earning £60k or more so the net result is the same as if they weren't eligible for it in the first place.

    A very round-about way of means testing and I wonder how expensive it is to administer. It feels very inefficient.
    It also feels rather unfair for families living on a single higher income (such as when one parent is a full-time carer) compared to those with two high incomes who can afford to keep both below the threshold by topping up pensions and whatnot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    It also feels rather unfair for families living on a single higher income (such as when one parent is a full-time carer) compared to those with two high incomes who can afford to keep both below the threshold by topping up pensions and whatnot.
    Indeed.

    It is a badly thought out and expensive way to administer a benefit which penalises a single income household by not taking total household income into account!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paw3001 View Post
    Indeed.

    It is a badly thought out and expensive way to administer a benefit which penalises a single income household by not taking total household income into account!
    Couldn't agree more. I struggle to understand how there could be any reasoning behind the current rules. Appears to be no logic whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    Millionaires and the very well-off get child benefit too.
    Why not means test that as well while they're at it?
    As stated above
    You essentially don't get child benefit above certain earnings

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    My father inlaw likes to make a point of telling everybody that he uses his heating allowance to go on holiday or go out for meals. That’s whilst he’s telling everybody about his final salary pension. I will look forward to seeing him next week :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilgoe1972 View Post
    My father inlaw likes to make a point of telling everybody that he uses his heating allowance to go on holiday or go out for meals. That’s whilst he’s telling everybody about his final salary pension. I will look forward to seeing him next week :)


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    Point out that at the current levels it is a crap holiday & at best a tasting menu for one with a good chef. I did likewise to my FIL, but after I’d played for a few hours with his new Turbo S. he at least agrees he doesn’t need it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    Point out that at the current levels it is a crap holiday & at best a tasting menu for one with a good chef. I did likewise to my FIL, but after I’d played for a few hours with his new Turbo S. he at least agrees he doesn’t need it.


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    Ha nice :) He enjoys gloating over the younger gens about everything he’s got in life and how fortunate his generation are and how hard they worked for it. He could almost be Mr P of this forum.


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    How much extra do you get with pension credit?

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    Apparently before MPs cheered when they won the vote to remove the pensioners winter fuel allowance, the chancellor claimed over £4k heating allowance.
    Nice to know she won’t be getting chilly over the winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Apparently before MPs cheered when they won the vote to remove the pensioners winter fuel allowance, the chancellor claimed over £4k heating allowance.
    Nice to know she won’t be getting chilly over the winter.
    The money was claimed over the past 5 years, all MP's no matter which party can do the same, however the Telegraph didn't bother reporting how much the Cons claimed, I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbh View Post
    The money was claimed over the past 5 years, all MP's no matter which party can do the same, however the Telegraph didn't bother reporting how much the Cons claimed, I wonder why?
    So only about £1k a year then, and perhaps because it wasn’t them who removed the allowance and clapped and cheered when they did it? Just a guess.
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