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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Yep this is the reason.
    Inside closets too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scepticalist View Post
    Might not be feasible if you have an exceptionally minimalist house, but mine is randomly located out of sight inside an everyday item. Any would-be thief would have to be exceptionally lucky to find it or have far more time available to search than would be likely with a Police-connected alarm running. Coins are ideal for this type of concealment - you can tape them flat or into small packages easily.

    Not mine, but this is kind of the idea

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lynx-Stash-.../dp/B01H5PJVHU
    What if it was a thief that liked to smell good all the time though?

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    Safety deposit box.

    It's not like you need access to bullion all the time is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    What about the mobile phone/prison method? Just carry it around with you at all times.
    Good for a few ounces but when you get up to a handful of kilo bars you'd start to run into problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scepticalist View Post
    Might not be feasible if you have an exceptionally minimalist house, but mine is randomly located out of sight inside an everyday item. Any would-be thief would have to be exceptionally lucky to find it or have far more time available to search than would be likely with a Police-connected alarm running. Coins are ideal for this type of concealment - you can tape them flat or into small packages easily.

    Not mine, but this is kind of the idea

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lynx-Stash-.../dp/B01H5PJVHU
    Wow, I bet no burglars ever thought of that!

    Seriously though, ever seen a house that's been burgled with everything tipped all over the floor?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Good for a few ounces but when you get up to a handful of kilo bars you'd start to run into problems.
    Nothing that a bit of gradated training wouldn't sort

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    Honestly I have no idea why you’d share stuff like this on a forum??
    Attention.

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    Why would anyone keep a large amount of physical gold at home, just buy an ETF if you want gold investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Good for a few ounces but when you get up to a handful of kilo bars you'd start to run into problems.
    I think Ryan could handle it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I think Ryan could handle it
    Those who crave the most attention usually have the most punched of lasagnes. I think he would have no problem getting it up there, but standing up and walking around would be a problem.

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    So if you are out then a safe will provide some security because it will take time for an individual or gang to get into.

    If you are in, a safe is going to a great incentive for them to take bolt cutters to your fingers if you don't unlock it quick enough because they will be desperate to know what is in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Yep this is the reason.
    If you whack the heating on and use a cheap digital thermometer you can find the pipe runs - that was how we avoided mine.

    Probably easier in the winter when the floor is colder but definitely works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Those who crave the most attention usually have the most punched of lasagnes.
    Where do you find these expressions? PMSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchlovr View Post
    This. Or made into a vintage Rolls Royce.
    Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB2 View Post
    If you whack the heating on and use a cheap digital thermometer you can find the pipe runs - that was how we avoided mine.

    Probably easier in the winter when the floor is colder but definitely works.
    Ours is actually water under the floors. The water gets heated which heats the floors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Ours is actually water under the floors. The water gets heated which heats the floors.
    The water runs in pipes. the uggestion was that you would see where those pipes are and would thus be able to drill without risking to damage one
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Buy an old fruit machine that takes coins that are no longer legal tender, melt the gold into coin size discs and have fun safely secreting your bullion away.

    If you do happen to win a fed times, you can just play some more. Fun and safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    The water runs in pipes. the uggestion was that you would see where those pipes are and would thus be able to drill without risking to damage one
    We had a heating engineer visit us last year with a heat camera gadget he plugged into his iPhone - he checked the underfloor heating pipework for any potential leaks and to see where the runs were. I asked to have a go and it also revealed a coupIe of hot spots on the wife! - googled the gadget and it was about £200, quite fancied getting one and pretending I was The Predator! - the Arnie one not some kind of pervert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    We had a heating engineer visit us last year with a heat camera gadget he plugged into his iPhone - he checked the underfloor heating pipework for any potential leaks and to see where the runs were. I asked to have a go and it also revealed a coupIe of hot spots on the wife! - googled the gadget and it was about £200, quite fancied getting one and pretending I was The Predator! - the Arnie one not some kind of pervert!
    Is there anywhere else you can find out about gadgets that sound like fun for a rainy day? Think I'll buy it before asking SWMBO.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    I have a small slit cut in the internal wall of my wardrobe, near the ceiling. I just slide my bullion in there, store it in the wall. When I need it back, I just pull off a section of skirting board and get what I need. Easy.
    Haha, just tell someone about it. When one of the locals died about 10 years ago his wife couldn’t work out why there was not the money in the bank that she thought. After rummaging round the house the family found about £90,000 in cash stuffed in obscure places.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?
    “No, Mr Bond. I expect you to die.”

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    Hello

    The first port of call should always be a bank, you could even try the Bank of England for advice. But I’d be very wary about revealing this kind of information to others, which you’ve done.

    Just not necessary and not a particularly wise thing to do. Your aim is to secure your high value items and reduce risk of harm to it / theft etc.

    By posting this you’ve not really helped that aim / outcome.

    Hopefully a bank will be able to provide you with some workable solutions and options acceptable to you.

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    Hello

    And just to say this is not a reflection on TZ members. But once things are online then you’ve lost control of that information and who can access it. And also who could potentially exploit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    … it also revealed a coupIe of hot spots on the wife!
    Might we know where these hot spots were?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aa388 View Post
    Haha, just tell someone about it.
    Just for avoidance of doubt, I was joking. I don't store my bullion in the walls. I hold it prison-style, like a normal person.

    That's a joke too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I think Ryan could handle it
    Might be tricky going on holiday again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB2 View Post
    The safe fitters we used said if they couldn't drill the floor they would just chemically bond it to the floor although drilling was preferable.
    You mean glue to the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Ours is actually water under the floors. The water gets heated which heats the floors.
    That's what's mine is. The plumber had a FLIR camera when he was doing some work but the thermometer on a cold floor works really well - especially if you open the zones up one by one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Just for avoidance of doubt, I was joking. I don't store my bullion in the walls. I hold it prison-style, like a normal person.

    That's a joke too.
    Or is it?
    It is.

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    Safes are for show, a distraction, the biggest strongest most secure safe will be open quick sticks if they put your loved ones fingers in wire cutters Concealment is key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCFastybloke View Post
    Safes are for show, a distraction, the biggest strongest most secure safe will be open quick sticks if they put your loved ones fingers in wire cutters Concealment is key.
    Not an issue, that’s when your insurance pays out.
    If the house is empty, a (good) safe works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchlovr View Post
    Not an issue, that’s when your insurance pays out.
    If the house is empty, a (good) safe works.
    They see it, are intrigued and return when you are in.A visible safe attracts attention.

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    Solution is(assuming you’re putting it in a closet;
    Remove all clothing etc.
    Remove all skirting.
    Fit 25mm ply or similar tight to the walls (bond to floor for additional safety)
    Refit all skirting.
    Screw safe to false floor using 25mm screws.
    Use thicker timber if you wish to use longer screws.
    I’ve done this, carpeted over the top. It is invisible to the casual observer.
    I’m sure a safe could still be removed, just makes it more difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Just for avoidance of doubt, I was joking. I don't store my bullion in the walls. I hold it prison-style, like a normal person.

    That's a joke too.


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    Is it April already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suds View Post
    Is it April already?
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    I have just bought a new-to-me caravan. It has a safe screwed to the floor in one of the seat bases.
    I am so relieved. I can now store my watches in a secure safe when away from home caravanning.

    It's not as though the felons can just steal the entire bloody caravan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    I have just bought a new-to-me caravan. It has a safe screwed to the floor in one of the seat bases.
    I am so relieved. I can now store my watches in a secure safe when away from home caravanning.

    It's not as though the felons can just steal the entire bloody caravan.
    This does remind me rather of the people who fixate on having a fully armoured front door from Banham, with ultra secure cylinders in the locks, and who then have single glazed windows on the ground floor that are often left open.

    Ryan, use an insured safety deposit box.

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    Mine is small. 15 x 5 x 5 and bolted to a brick wall. Hidden behind some things. Empty now. Hid the family jewelry, but all sold

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB2 View Post
    That's what's mine is. The plumber had a FLIR camera when he was doing some work but the thermometer on a cold floor works really well - especially if you open the zones up one by one.
    FLIR cameras are for vessels (Forward Looking Infra Red) but I know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    FLIR cameras are for vessels (Forward Looking Infra Red) but I know what you mean.
    The reference is to the company, Teledyne FLIR, who manufacture IR cameras for all kinds of environments despite the connotations of the acronym.

    https://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/b...ng-inspection/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    The reference is to the company, Teledyne FLIR, who manufacture IR cameras for all kinds of environments despite the connotations of the acronym.

    https://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/b...ng-inspection/
    Well, I never………………

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Well, I never………………
    Trouble with cutting and pasting from Google, matey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    Screw it to the ceiling.

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    Thanks for all the tips guys.

    A forum member has kindly agreed to pop round tonight with one of his mates who works in the security industry to show me the best way to install a safe. I've not met this chap before as he doesn't post often but it just goes to show that community spirit is alive and kicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    The reference is to the company, Teledyne FLIR, who manufacture IR cameras for all kinds of environments despite the connotations of the acronym.

    https://www.flir.co.uk/instruments/b...ng-inspection/
    Meh, make your own and add the saving to the contents - https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/a...t=984585994250

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Thanks for all the tips guys.

    A forum member has kindly agreed to pop round tonight with one of his mates who works in the security industry to show me the best way to install a safe. I've not met this chap before as he doesn't post often but it just goes to show that community spirit is alive and kicking.
    You're on form. Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    You're on form. Good one.
    Pleased to see that I'm not alone
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    "You gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em".

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    Get some gold ‘interconnects’ made - https://www.analogueseduction.net/an...goldinter.html, no-one’s going to pinch some speaker cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Man with stash of gold bullion complains insurance is too expensive. Good luck.
    Sell some bullion to pay the insurance premium. Job done! :0)

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