What about one of the kits you can buy, they have all the parts and tools needed, if he wants to take it further he can replace the tools as needed and when funds allow?
:sigh:
What is the bare minimum quantity and quality of tools required and what should he look out for (good/avoid) regarding parts?
Also - are there any UK sources of this stuff or is he fine browsing aliexpress?
I’m happy for him to discover that you get what you pay for and finally feel the wrath of nasty bracelets - but I’d rather he not outright fail.
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
What about one of the kits you can buy, they have all the parts and tools needed, if he wants to take it further he can replace the tools as needed and when funds allow?
I'm far from an expert but I've had a bit of fun over the years putting stuff together and taking it apart, with varying degrees of success. I've found that the following we're quite useful;
For taking the back off cases, which are either threaded (in which case a 'sticky ball' is useful) or if push fit, then a watchmakers knife (looks like a metal butter knife) and a crystal press for putting it back on again ( or get friendly with your local Timpsons).
For attaching dials to movements, a set of watchmakers screwdrivers are good, although there will be only one size you need for that job, I expect. A dressmaker's pin is useful for releasing the stem from a movement.
The same screwdrivers are useful for messing about with straps. I bought a Burgeon strap tool and it's rather good, with a forked end of two different sizes.
Oh and the most useful thing I've got has been a tool for attaching hands, it's like a pen with an acrylic tube at either end (for attaching) and a set of tweezer things for removing the hands, not sure what the correct name is.
Have a look at Cousins, they used to be quite good value.
Have fun! Hope that's some help?
M
All helpful so far…….
Sounding like movement holders and gasket lubricating pots are not needed as I suspected.
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
What a great start your lad is having into our watch hobby. Once he’s built a few he’ll realise the madness of spending thousands of pounds on so-called Swiss made watches, and how the difference between a £200 self-chosen, self-assembled, self-regulated beauty, and a luxury brand is nothing like the price difference suggests.
If he wants a kit these look ok. I’ve not used either, but I believe the second one below exhibited at the recent British Watchmakers Fair, and if I’ve got that right, the 36mm Oyster Perpetual similar job looked very nice indeed.
https://diywatch.club
https://www.watch-supply.co.uk/colle...diy-watch-kits
Alternatively, why not buy the components seperately? Your son can then browse web sites and put together something he really likes. To start, I recommend focusing on Seiko NH38 (no date) NH35 (date) or 36 (day date) movements. They’re all interchangeable and your choice will depend whether you want a date or not. The NH series are robust and are great for starters. Adjusting precision is a bit hit or miss, and will test his patience, but it’s “fun” to do.
Namoki has been round for ever and is a stalwart of the modding scene:
https://www.namokimods.com/en-gb
Seiko mods is UK based so delivery is quicker.
https://www.seikomods.com
Seiko mods also has some useful tutorials
https://www.seikomods.com/noob-centre/
I’ve used both and they’re both excellent. Seiko Mods delivery is quick.
You’ll need a case, movement, dial, hands, exhibition case back if you want to see the fruits of your work, and a bracelet or strap. A strap is easy to start with because a bracelet will need adjustment. The NH34 is a GMT movement, and because 4 hands are used the setting can be more difficult. Perhaps try this later on.
Tools
Cocktail sticks
Watchmakers Rodico
Eye glasses cleaning wipe
Microfibres cloth to polish the finished watch.
The following are cheap tools, that will be fine for your first attempts:
Screwdrivers: look for the following in Amazon at less than a fiver
Precision Screwdriver Set Watchmakers Screwdrivers for Watch Eyeglasses Jewelry Repair,0.6 0.8 1.0 1.2 1.4 1.6mm Glasses Ergonomic Watch Repair Screwdriver Set
Simple tool kit: again, Amazon is convenient. This kit comes in a nice zip-up case and costs about 12 quid
New YUSHI 185pcs Watch Repair Tools Kit,Watch Tool Set,Back Case Removal Tool,Strap Link Removal Repair Tool,Watch Band Bracelet Pin Remover Adjustment Kit,Spring Pin Bar Watchmaker Tool Bag
Pushers for hand setting: Amazon, around a fiver:
3 PCS Watch Hand Pressers, Watch Hand Pusher Fitting Set Kit Watchmakers Repair Tool Watch Repair Tools Watchmakers Wristwatch Repair Tool Kit
The tool kit includes a generic movement holder. A better one would be a nylon one specific for the movement. Search on Amazon or eBay for nh35 movement holder and you’ll find one for less than £9. Because he’s starting off, I’d recommend a nylon/plastic/3D printed movement holder rather than a steel one.
Some silicone grease to lubricate the case back and crown seals.
I haven’t recommended Cousins because they’re a trade supplier, and the above are all cheap, easily available tools which will give your lad a feel for this new potential hobby. If you’re the sort who doesn’t like cheap tools even for one off use, then the above can be bettered, but at a higher cost.
Good luck
Last edited by YCymro; 3rd June 2024 at 14:19. Reason: Tutorials added
Parts and chinesium tools ordered………
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
I have the parts for a Vostok Cosmodude project if that's of any interest?
I have a donor watch with the GMT movement, the dial, bezel and handset, plus a case & caseback. I think I have a strap choice, a strap or a bracelet. Not the
NATO that was part of the original design though.
I think he is good for now thank you.
All parts arrived, so far he has swapped the rotor.
Tomorrow he will be pinching the wrong pins off the dial.
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
He only went and succeeded. A little guidance was provided, but he cracked on and is chuffed to bits.
Oblig:
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
Very nice!
He still needs to pay me for the parts and tools…….
"Bite my shiny metal ass."
- Bender Bending Rodríguez
That looks excellent - he must be chuffed!