Reply With QuoteUnai Emery signs a new 5 year contract, lots of very good players will be back from injury, some astute signings will be made. Prediction - Arsenal 1st, Man City 2nd, Villa 3rd, Liverpool 4th.
Now that the season’s over and we’re going to start getting into players and managers moving around, I thought it sensible to start a new thread.
Over to you for thoughts, opinions and predictions.
Unai Emery signs a new 5 year contract, lots of very good players will be back from injury, some astute signings will be made. Prediction - Arsenal 1st, Man City 2nd, Villa 3rd, Liverpool 4th.
City will get 115 points
That’s a tough fine, but probably deserved.Originally Posted by thegoat
Potter 2.1 will be gone by Christmas or he will be better than Jose
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A lot depends on the signings. From my club Arsenal's perspective we are basically a combo of either us getting a smidge better and City staying the same, or us remaining the same and City getting worse away from winning the league. City don't have the same ceiling to improve as Arsenal which is why I think there's an inevitability to Arsenal winning the league. Whether that's next season I'm not sure as Pep makes City more than the sum of its parts. Also Gvardiol will be an absolute monster next season but Arsenal's Jurrien Timber is a star in the making too.
I think Isak may be too pricey for us, assuming we have £300m to spend in the summer (£100m generated by sales of players like Ramsdale, Nketieh, Jesus, Smith Rowe, Nelson etc). We also have Ethan Nwanyeri coming through who many English coaches are saying is the best talent they've seen come through since Phil Foden.
So assuming we get a Left back, number 9 and left sided midfielder in I'd say we will remain top 2, decent chance of 1st but let's remember we were lucky with injuries last year whereas City had their best player out for half the season.
So Arsenal and City for the top 2. Liverpool is hard to tell but I think they may finish outside the Top 4 as it is a transitional season for them. Villa were supposedly selling Douglas Luiz, Watkins etc but why the heck would they now that they are in the CL? So they could have a strong season but will need to add to the squad. They will contest with Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea for spots 3-5.
At the bottom end Leicester are already down. They'll get an 8 point deduction so are absolute toast. Ipswich's plucky long ball play just won't cut it in the PL and they will go down. So 1 of Southampton, Forest, Brentford for the final relegation spot.
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For me it’ll be City and Arsenal top two again. Liverpool to finish outside the top six and Villa to fall away a bit too due to sheer number of fixtures. As for Chelsea and Man Utd - who the hell knows! I just want us (Newcastle) to win something. Anything.
City will be worse next year, another year on KDB and Walker.
Arsenal need a striker.
Liverpool will easily be top 3 and better next season than this season.
Villa to fall away with champions league football and finish 6/7th.
United to finish top 4. Really don’t think they are too far away if they get the next couple of signings right.
Newcastle to fishing same as this year.
Chelsea have a shout at top 4 now players have settled.
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I'd imagine Villa won't have to play more fixtures. Harder games more than likely but atleast the travel is usually within Western Europe rather than the Eastern European fixtures Europa Conference brings.
Definitely going to be interesting next year, Pep indicating it might be his last season might well sow doubt into players minds, look what happened when Clippity Klopp announced he was going, add in some injuries are creeping in and Citeh might well have a similar season or worse.
I think the Scouse could have a new manager bounce for the first 10 games but they will do well to get into the top 4, Villa might struggle to keep a few players and then have to deal with CL football for the first time in many years so will find it harder going next year, I like Unai Emery though and he will take them far I think.
Arsenal, the more years they go without the PL the harder it becomes, that mentality to maintain top spot knowing they let it go in previous years will hang heavy round their necks, I think they need to have a cup final or two as well to feel more progress.
Man United, it could be mid table or worse or it could be knocking at the top, it really is all over the place at the moment, I just hope INEOS sort themselves (and the club) out with what they are doing and just make the right decisions, rumours of Gareth Southgate fill me with dread! I'm happy with ETH, its been a train wreck behind the scenes so if the new owners get all that inline along with improving Carrington and just let the manager and staff do their job hopefully it will come good, that being said INEOS talking with other managers leading up to the FA cup is very disrespectful.
Tottenham, maybe Ange Ball will come good next season??
Chelsea, Owners look like they want too much input hence Potch walking, as long as they interfere they will struggle under any manager..
Leicester, top four finish :)
Starting the Liverpool nonsense early doors I see !
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No I think it’s going to be tough for you. Post Klopp, player changes and an untested and unproven manager at this level. I’d say predicting a comfortable top four finish is foolish and a bit arrogant.
What player changes ?
Arrogant to think a team who were 5 games from winning the league won’t finish top 4 ?
You’re round the bend.
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So no players are leaving or joining? None? I thought Trent was going to Real?
You don’t see any potential for drop off? You don’t think there’s any potential for a Ten Hag situation to arise? The new manager and a changed team will just continue to do what Klopp’s team did? I’m not saying it will happen, I just can’t understand how you won’t entertain the possibility that it might.
I’d call that supremely arrogant and it doesn’t come as any surprise from Reds.
I see Spurs have extended the loan of Timo Werner. In that case I see a sustained title challenge from Spurs.....
As an aside Chelsea may withdraw from the Conference League as they'll struggle to achieve the FFP stipulations of that competition, stipulations that are tougher than PL FFP rules.
No Trent is going to Real Madrid next year on a free, he’s got a year left on his current deal.
No first team player is leaving. ( I’d like Salah to go if we can still get 150m+ from Saudi ).
Liverpool will have a stronger squad this year after the summer window.
Liverpool to finish no higher than 6th is daft and stinks of your unhealthy obsessive bias against Englands most successful football club.
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That last sentence reads like you’re bitter of how the wheels came off your title run!
No matter how good a team is any new management is going to be a challenge, it all might click and you start where you left off but history shows us that most new managers struggle a bit at big clubs.
I think LP will start well but the ghost of Klopp will come back to haunt at some point..
City 1st , Arsenal 2nd.
I think Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and UTD will be fighting over 3rd and 4th.
Villa / Newcastle to then be 7th and 8th.
Arsenal desperately need a striker, but not sure we will get one. I would try get Watkins from Villa, he is apparently an Arsenal fan and had a great season. Or Isak from Newcastle, but both are unlikely to want to sell either player unless for mega ££
City will spend another 500mil on players.
£100 here (to the fundraiser) that says Liverpool will not finish top 4
I think you're vastly underestimating what Klopp has achieved with a team not full of superstars
Depends if Salah/VVD are staying. If they are then I don't see why they wouldn't be top 4 contenders although new manager coming in is a risk. They'll sign players as well of course.
I think the Euros is the big risk for the next season. Top players coming back knackered - we may see some surprise results in the early weeks of the season as many clubs won't be able to get their players doing a full pre-season.
We have a deal Demon.
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Excellent, and the fundraiser will benefit regardless of who wins the bet
Arsenal, City, Chelsea Top 4. Have a feeling thought that City will not make it 5 in a row.
Liverpool and Villa to not finish top 4.
Other position up for grabs.
Howe will get sacked at some point this season.
Just out of interest if liverpool are finishing 7th or worse who are your top 6?
I predict Newcastle will win nothing, and Howe will be gone mid season.
Oh dear
Someone isn’t satisfied with the We Got Four Points Off Citeh And Finished Second trophy.
Howe won't be sacked mid-season. What he's achieved in his two years has been incredible considering what he inherited therefore he has a lot of credit in the bank. He's a very astute coach who has had us playing the best football since the mid 90s and I'd say potentially better as we're more of a team unit than the Keegan side.
Two top seven finishes, Champions League and a cup final after 16 years of scraping by both on and off the field with zero investment in anything club related. We haven't spent a lot of money relatively speaking, we've had the worst season for injuries I can ever remember (and I'm 52) and we've had a signing suspended through no fault of Eddie's.
Our owners said on arrival that this will take time and patience and they're right. EPL PSR Uefa FFP means we can't spend very much money at all until we're consistently earning it. The owners and the Board are doing amazing things to increase revenue and brand awareness across the world but we'll have to be patient for that to appear across multiple financial accounting years. Financially we're 20 years if not more behind Chelsea, fifty behind Liverpool and we'd never catch Man Utd.
So, what more can be expected of Eddie at this point? We won't be spending big this summer and will be focusing on bringing in squad players to backfill leavers rather than superstars for the first team. So, what can reasonably be expected of him next season? Another top 8 finish and a decent cup run with some real entertainment along the way would be great. A trophy would be....unless you're from the city you can't imagine what a trophy win would be like.
Eddie's as safe as houses.
Let's see I think he will be gone to be honest, sooner or later they will want a big name.
So that top 6?
Nonsense mate. City managed it in a few short years. Just do what they did. You'll soon have the best players and best manager and the trophies will come flying in. Simples.
Bloody amateurs I say.
Season ticket renewed.
As already said, a good signing up front and hope that 5 in a row is a step too far fpor City.
What top 6?
I agree that there will come a time when, it he's not winning things, they'll want a winner in. I say keep him for two more seasons then get Pep in when his time's up at City.
Your top 6 if liverpool are finishing outside it
Ah right, I see. I thought about this the other day and struggled. Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea all with new coaches could storm ahead or bomb in equal measure. If Ten Hag stays and they splash the cash, who knows what they can do. What post-tournament injuries will affect which clubs? I think next season is the hardest in ages to predict and if I could I'd stick money on it!
So on reflection I'll say Arsenal and City will be top two again but as for the rest....perm four from eight.
Wow - genius or insanity? If you're Harry Kane you must be thinking 'WTF?'
Vincent Kompany: Bayern Munich appoint Belgian as head coach after leaving Burnley - BBC Sport
Bonkers!! And they paid Burnley a fee for him !! - I wonder who was next on their list, Lampard ?
Imagine if he takes Bellamy as his assistant 😂
I think it's a really inspiring hire. Time will tell
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I'd imagine Kompany will have ever so slightly higher level players at his disposal now vs at Burnley so he'll be able to play the way he wants and execute better. He's played as Pep's captain for several years and will surely have absorbed a lot. That being said it's a big leap from Burnley but probably Bayern have seen how previous Pep disciples have got on whilst adopting their own personal slant and thought it's worth a shot.
Only slightly.....
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Funny how clubs see coaches, players and mangers that worked under Pep, they all hope they will be as good as Pep or at least have 50% of his managerial talent!
I think Ten Hag was running the B team at Bayern Munich when Pep was in charge and they have a lot of respect for each other, if Pep leaves Citeh next year that will be a hammer blow and impossible shoes to fill.
After Pep has left City will bring in Neil Warnock to get them promoted from League 1 back to the Championship.
That will be amazing.
Haaland and Foden s goal tally would be off the charts .
Bring it on
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Me too, painful one as put lower tier percentage increase up more than upper tier again this year.It does includes the initial 4 home Chumps league matches...so still less than 7 cup matches we used to get
There’s a great thread on Twitter that goes into massive detail of the city charges. It’s pulled out the info and documents from the initial case.
It’s as we all have know. City are absolutely guilty and it’s clear as day.
Good read if anyone has a spare hour or two as it’s very load and very detailed.
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I've seen that, the internal emails are very damning, looking forward to some resolution to this.
Any chance of a link please?
At least we'll be able to see if Haaland can indeed do it on a cold and wet night at Grimsby
Yes, I also read through this and the screenshots of the actual emails.
Things like allocating of income to sponsorship rather than equity - for sure those decisions should not have been made by MC management.
There are also other things such as the contract Mancini was on and how we was getting paid.
They are guilty without doubt of manipulating, the evidence is there in black and white. But of course, they have expensive lawyers and are seeking not to cooperate.
It will only be satisfactory if they are punished properly. The talk about it being years ago is also not relevant, as that success in those years has allowed them to do what they are doing today, attracted managers, players, etc.
Sadly, cannot see any meaningful punishment happening, but maybe I am just pessimstic.
Don't forget they were already found guilty once by UEFA and supposed to be banned from Champions League for two years, but it didn't happen although the appeal still stated they were obstructing the investigation. In the end, I think they got away with it due to the incidents being time barred but don't recall the exact circumstances.
Twitter you say ?
Well , that proves it .
Let me guess . The magic hat thread , right ? The only interesting part of that thread is when the author and his alter ego argue with each other in the hope of disproving that they are the same person . It’s bizarre .
It makes you wonder that if a bloke on Twitter can find City guilty with an hours reading , why can’t the PL and the Kings Counsel ?
There’s absolutely nothing on there that hasn’t been in the public domain since the charges were announced . It’s just been rehashed into a simple format that halfwits can pretend to follow .
The absolute best bit of it all is that Liverpool , United and Arsenal fans are all clinging to these charges to mask the on field shortcomings of their own sides . It’s like a security blanket needed to make big bad four in a row City to blame .
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What you on about ?
City have already been found guilty by UEFA.
So strange you still take the stance than City have done nothing wrong.
It’s clear as day.
Even without any physical evidence it would still
be the most obviously case of cheating.
Team with a tiny fan base become the biggest commercial revenue generating club in 14 years.
Dwarfing the likes of United, Real, Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool etc who are historic massive clubs who have massive global fan bases.
Absolutely laughable stuff.
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Anyways I’m not mentioned it again, don’t want to completely derail a thread when the season hasn’t even started.
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