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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Zubi is superb but a strange signing as you already have Rice and Jorginho in thar role.


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    I suspect it’s more todo with Partey and Jorginho being in their final year of contract, Partey won’t be offered a new deal and I think they’ll give Jorginho a one year extension.

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    I agree he’s a good signing, but again we are not signing a striker!


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    Cole Palmers goal, pure class. Chelsea should be out of sight here, which probably means they will lose 2-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Zubi is superb but a strange signing as you already have Rice and Jorginho in thar role.


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    Jorginho is off to MLS at the end of the season apparently

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    Great second half there, if only Jota could stay fit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Middo View Post
    Great second half there, if only Jota could stay fit
    Yep, blatantl penalty not given aswell on salah.

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    Good set of results for Arsenal last night, we just need to beat Spurs, which on current form may be difficult!

    It’s nice watching other teams score from open play with some flowing quick football, something we lack


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    Forget it- we're not making up 9 points on Liverpool without our attackers. Where are the goals going to come from to outgun Liverpool by 9 points over the rest of the season?

    We'll probably beat Spurs tonight (Gabriel from a corner) but over the rest of the season won't make up the points as we can't score enough goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Forget it- we're not making up 9 points on Liverpool without our attackers. Where are the goals going to come from to outgun Liverpool by 9 points over the rest of the season?

    We'll probably beat Spurs tonight (Gabriel from a corner) but over the rest of the season won't make up the points as we can't score enough goals.
    They aren't, I am not sure we will even beat Spurs. Unless Arteta gets a striker in this window we will fade away and maybe finish 3rd or 4th.

    A lot of rumours about Nico Williams, I don't get why he is still at Bilbao, with a small release clause (£50mil), had an outstanding summer, after the tournament he would have been the player everyone wanted but no one went for. He would be perfect for our left wing, if he does come that is.

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    Great point for forest and a very good watch - I hope they can maintain there form as its great for the neutral to see an underdog perform with the big boys - no doubt Liverpool a class above everyone else at the minute - good start for Potter at W Ham though Fulham really should have been out of sight and Brentford again decent at home (Great value that season ticket)

    Im looking forward to the NLD this evening and hoping Spurs can continue to rattle Arsenal which will no doubt tip the gooners over the edge
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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    They aren't, I am not sure we will even beat Spurs. Unless Arteta gets a striker in this window we will fade away and maybe finish 3rd or 4th.

    A lot of rumours about Nico Williams, I don't get why he is still at Bilbao, with a small release clause (£50mil), had an outstanding summer, after the tournament he would have been the player everyone wanted but no one went for. He would be perfect for our left wing, if he does come that is.
    It's frustrating as last season's Arsenal team pips this season's Liverpool side to the title. But the injuries and fact that teams have figured out how to play against us, plus players being out of form has been painful.

    It could change though and getting a frontman in would help a lot. Liverpool didn't look great vs Forest last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    It's frustrating as last season's Arsenal team pips this season's Liverpool side to the title. But the injuries and fact that teams have figured out how to play against us, plus players being out of form has been painful.

    It could change though and getting a frontman in would help a lot. Liverpool didn't look great vs Forest last night.
    Eh Liverpool battered forest last night.

    It should have been about 5/6 only for the Forest keeper having a worldly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Eh Liverpool battered forest last night.

    It should have been about 5/6 only for the Forest keeper having a worldly.


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    That's basically summed up most Arsenal matches this season TBF

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    Match of the Day presenters announced

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    As depleted as they are Bergavile and Gray are absolute ballers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j17ykp View Post
    As depleted as they are Bergavile and Gray are absolute ballers.
    Suffering so much without Romero and Van de Ven, though. Dragusin is absolute sh*te.

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    Thought we had weathered the storm but got mugged by the ref for the corner and then Bissouma messed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    Thought we had weathered the storm but got mugged by the ref for the corner and then Bissouma messed up.
    The shot was saveable too.

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    Gray looks a real talent.

    Quote Originally Posted by j17ykp View Post
    As depleted as they are Bergavile and Gray are absolute ballers.

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    As usual we should be out of sight but still in jeopardy. 2-2 incoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    As usual we should be out of sight but still in jeopardy. 2-2 incoming.
    We should have scored a couple - dare I say it the lack of a real number 9 meant we only scored 2 instead of more.

    MLS had a great performance for his first NLD

    Also just realised Maddison was playing the whole second half - didn’t know he was on the pitch.

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    Agreed. Same with Havertz….as usual.

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    Also just realised Maddison was playing the whole second half - didn’t know he was on the pitch.

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    The fact we are 2nd shows how poor the league is this season.

    Last season's Arsenal team win this season's PL (obviously based on the assumption last season's City don't turn up else we're back to square one).

    The fact we are 2nd playing like this with so many injuries and Liverpool are just 4 points ahead of us is pretty damning on the quality of the current Liverpool team vs previous PL winners. Last season's City win this season's PL by 10 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    The shot was saveable too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Traveller View Post
    Feel free to stick your £50 in the fundraiser now if you like! 
    Yeah, it’s looking like I may as well.

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    Needing a refereeing howler to squeak past Tottenham's C team just after losing to a 10 man United side doesn't bode well for a title challenge - striker please Mikel.

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    It's looking more like extreme stubbornness by Arteta now. Pep won the league without a striker and I will too.

    What about, and hear me out, Harry Kane returning to his boyhood club? Arsenal finish second this season and Bayern win the league, getting Kane the trophy he craves. In the summer Arsenal sign Zubimendi as the six, replacing 'number 5' and enabling Rice to play further forward. They upgrade Martinelli and bring in Kane. That'd be some team! I'd back that team to win the league.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Needing a refereeing howler to squeak past Tottenham's C team just after losing to a 10 man United side doesn't bode well for a title challenge - striker please Mikel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    It's looking more like extreme stubbornness by Arteta now. Pep won the league without a striker and I will too.

    What about, and hear me out, Harry Kane returning to his boyhood club? Arsenal finish second this season and Bayern win the league, getting Kane the trophy he craves. In the summer Arsenal sign Zubimendi as the six, replacing 'number 5' and enabling Rice to play further forward. They upgrade Martinelli and bring in Kane. That'd be some team! I'd back that team to win the league.
    There's no way Kane would do that with his Spurs legacy lol.

    BTW Looks like we're getting in 2 strikers not 1 this month. From 1 extreme to another!

    Seems like Mbeumo from Brentford and Gyokeres from Sporting are inbound.

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    Not sure if anyone saw Micah Richards highlighting Haaland being a lazy fraud last night when City were trying to defend a lead.
    Walking about the midfield closing down nothing and just letting Brentford build and attack from the half way line.
    If I was a city fan I would be raging at that lack of commitment.
    Should have been subbed immediately.

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    I did see it and was pleased he did it because I've been saying that for months. When things aren't going well it's like playing with ten men. He does absolutely nothing to help the team. It's actually quite shocking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Not sure if anyone saw Micah Richards highlighting Haaland being a lazy fraud last night when City were trying to defend a lead.
    Walking about the midfield closing down nothing and just letting Brentford build and attack from the half way line.
    If I was a city fan I would be raging at that lack of commitment.
    Should have been subbed immediately.

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    Interesting, I've not seen those rumours. Mbuemo is a top player that I'd love us to sign. I'm not sure about Gyokeres though. Sure he's having a purple patch in a piss poor league but I've watched him a few times in the championship and he was less than average. The EPL is a massive step up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    There's no way Kane would do that with his Spurs legacy lol.

    BTW Looks like we're getting in 2 strikers not 1 this month. From 1 extreme to another!

    Seems like Mbeumo from Brentford and Gyokeres from Sporting are inbound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Interesting, I've not seen those rumours. Mbuemo is a top player that I'd love us to sign. I'm not sure about Gyokeres though. Sure he's having a purple patch in a piss poor league but I've watched him a few times in the championship and he was less than average. The EPL is a massive step up.
    The benchmark for comparison is Haavertz. Gyokeres will look like prime Suarez compared to him.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Interesting, I've not seen those rumours. Mbuemo is a top player that I'd love us to sign. I'm not sure about Gyokeres though. Sure he's having a purple patch in a piss poor league but I've watched him a few times in the championship and he was less than average. The EPL is a massive step up.
    This is some purple 'patch', not saying he will do the same in the PL but you could have made similar arguments re Salah when liverpool signed him.



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    We should go for Williams, and Osimhen, both would be available and add to the team. I am not sure about Gyokeres, yes he scored a lot , but so did Nunez and we know how that is working out. He is a bit of a risk tbh.

    But as you said anything is a step up from Havertz - He was awful last night, missed two headers and was a ghost 90% of the match, he just wonders around looking sad and dejected. I am glad you have finally seen what he is, at the start of the season you were defending him.

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    I agree that he's a risk and Salah was also a risk. As was Isak. Salah and Isak worked and Gyokeres might be brilliant too. I'm not saying he's going to fail, just that there's some risk involved.
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    This is some purple 'patch', not saying he will do the same in the PL but you could have made similar arguments re Salah when liverpool signed him.



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    I'd go for Mbuemo and Osimhen if I were Arsenal as they're both proven over time and would fit into the Arteta system.

    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    We should go for Williams, and Osimhen, both would be available and add to the team. I am not sure about Gyokeres, yes he scored a lot , but so did Nunez and we know how that is working out. He is a bit of a risk tbh.

    But as you said anything is a step up from Havertz - He was awful last night, missed two headers and was a ghost 90% of the match, he just wonders around looking sad and dejected. I am glad you have finally seen what he is, at the start of the season you were defending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The fact we are 2nd shows how poor the league is this season.

    Last season's Arsenal team win this season's PL (obviously based on the assumption last season's City don't turn up else we're back to square one).

    The fact we are 2nd playing like this with so many injuries and Liverpool are just 4 points ahead of us is pretty damning on the quality of the current Liverpool team vs previous PL winners. Last season's City win this season's PL by 10 points.
    meant to come back to this

    after 20 games this season the top team has 47 points, second has 43 and and third 41, last season it was 45, 43 and 42.
    I am not sure where this narrative has come from about the league being poor this season has come from. The winner will be close to 90 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Not sure if anyone saw Micah Richards highlighting Haaland being a lazy fraud last night when City were trying to defend a lead.
    Walking about the midfield closing down nothing and just letting Brentford build and attack from the half way line.
    If I was a city fan I would be raging at that lack of commitment.
    Should have been subbed immediately.
    I am
    Only this morning , I found myself in the garden shaking my fist at the sky because of him.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world ………….

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    I am
    Only this morning , I found myself in the garden shaking my fist at the sky because of him.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world ………….
    Have you started looking on sky scanner yet for flights to Azerbaijan and Bulgaria next year ?

    I’ve heard the likes Qarabag are decent aways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Have you started looking on sky scanner yet for flights to Azerbaijan and Bulgaria next year ?

    I’ve heard the likes Qarabag are decent aways.


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    I’d just ask you for your experiences

    Anyway, I’m too busy dusting off my old A-Zs of Chesterfield, Hartlepool and Swansea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
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    Only this morning , I found myself in the garden shaking my fist at the sky because of him.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world ………….
    Maybe that's why he does it .
    If the fans don't give a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Maybe that's why he does it .
    If the fans don't give a shit.
    Maybe .
    Or maybe , he’s not chasing back or closing down because that’s not his role in the team . Run round the base of the midfield chasing shadows for a while and then Micah Richards would be lamenting his inability to chase down a one on one a few minutes later. I’ve watched enough of Haaland to know that he does care about his performances . He’s usually fired up for the games and leaves a lot on the pitch.
    A gurning media clown won’t convince me otherwise.

    Do you honestly believe Pep would leave him out there if he was just ambling around ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Maybe .
    Or maybe , he’s not chasing back or closing down because that’s not his role in the team . Run round the base of the midfield chasing shadows for a while and then Micah Richards would be lamenting his inability to chase down a one on one a few minutes later. I’ve watched enough of Haaland to know that he does care about his performances . He’s usually fired up for the games and leaves a lot on the pitch.
    A gurning media clown won’t convince me otherwise.

    Do you honestly believe Pep would leave him out there if he was just ambling around ?
    You were 2 up with not a lot of the game to play.
    At that point you don't need to be constructive but you do need to be destructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    You were 2 up with not a lot of the game to play.
    At that point you don't need to be constructive but you do need to be destructive.
    Basically they should just have stayed humble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrusir View Post
    meant to come back to this

    after 20 games this season the top team has 47 points, second has 43 and and third 41, last season it was 45, 43 and 42.
    I am not sure where this narrative has come from about the league being poor this season has come from. The winner will be close to 90 points.

    Top team has 47 points after 20 games, which extrapolates to 89 after 38.

    2nd has 43 after 21, which extrapolates to 78, and 3rd has 41 after 21 which extrapolates to 74.


    So 89/78/74 vs last season's 91/89/82.

    So I'd say the chasing pack are definitely offering far less of a challenge to the team at the top than last year, even if the leaders are more or less in the same ball park as last year's Champions.

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    United will turn this around once VAR comes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    You were 2 up with not a lot of the game to play.
    At that point you don't need to be constructive but you do need to be destructive.
    Im not sure I understand what that even means.
    Despite being the only football team ever to give up a late two goal lead, there were more things for City fans to worry about than Haaland not chasing man and ball across yards of the pitch .
    Brentford are an extraordinarily good football team and their home record is generally very strong.They dominated City for the first 25 minutes and never gave up their excellent passing game. City are without the best DM in world football, two of the Premier Leagues best centre halves , a number of players playing out of position and a squad where it seems the last four years performances have finally caught up with them . No dramas, I’m sure we will be on the up again soon .

    For Richard’s to only call out Haaland is both embarrassing and fully expected because of who it is.
    For Brentford’s two goals , there were a number of poor mistakes by different players. Bernardo should’ve headed clear, Ake and Akanji could’ve cleared it twice each, the keeper should’ve stopped the second goal etc etc . In between the goals, City had two clear cut chances , both you would’ve expected the players to s ore . Again , it happens .

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    Are they booing again at Old Trafford ?
    Who do they think they are, Liverpool fans ?

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    Haaland has just signed a 9.5 year contract with City.

    Chelsea management is fuming.

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    Haaland has just signed a 9.5 year contract with City.

    Chelsea management is fuming.
    Shearer’s comments on the next “Rest is Football” podcast will be interesting.

    Who knows, he could be competing with Paul Mullin for leading scorer in The Championship

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