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    What garage door?

    Hopefully this will spark some enthusiastic debate as I know many TZ members love a good garage thread.

    The house we bought 2 years ago has a Gliderol Rollamatic garage door Ė 10' 6" by 7'. It was installed in 2014 and serviced in 2017.

    It started playing silly buggers over winter, sometimes rolling back up a bit as if there was an obstacle, but nothing was there. Then it seemed to work ok until a few weeks ago when it would roll down with the remote and internal button, but not up.

    Roll around (see what I did there) to the weekend just gone and I put the door in manual mode to push it up, got the car out, then went to auto roll it down and it started bunching on itself until I stopped it. I manually tried to unroll it, with limited success, but had to get it back down otherwise the whole thing would have been exposed. I pushed auto down again and it started flipping up, rolled over itself with much noise and drama, nearly taking me out in the process, and came to a shuddering, grinding halt.

    I flipped it back to manual and managed to pull it back to the ground, and engaged auto again, so at least it's locked, if a little lopsided. Basically, it's come out of its tracks and was flapping about like a sheet in the wind. I've managed to apply a few strategic timbers to stop the flapping, but clearly we need it sorting.

    I phoned the original local company who fitted and serviced it and they don't want to know. Don't deal with Gliderol anymore, but will happily fit me a new door for ££££s. After phoning hundreds of garage specialists, it seems that no one does repairs and if a garage door breaks, it's new or nothing.

    Which, if you're still with me, leads me to my quest for knowledge from the TZ hive mind. Which garage door do I need/want/avoid?

    I'm well down the rabbit hole and looking at same roller door (all infrastructure in place so simple replacement) or sectional doors (needs new frame, might block strip lights).

    Because we use the door quite often Ė about 4 days a week, twice a day Ė we're a bit suspicious of another auto door and the motor failing again after a couple of years, but the only manual option seems to be the sectional door.

    After phoning a load of companies I found one who happens to have a Hormann sectional door ready to go after a client changed their mind about the colour. He can fit this for £1100 incl. VAT in manual guise, or £1500 in auto flavour.

    1. Is a sectional door going to be a PITA to manually open and close all the time? Should we just go auto and revel in the luxury of one-touch operation, and risk it failing in a couple of years?
    2. Reading Hormann reviews online doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Flimsy remotes that chew expensive batteries, motor failures after a few months, doors rusting after a couple of years, etc.

    https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/hor...k?sort=recency

    3. Quotes for roller doors are about £2,200 incl VAT. for insulated, alarmed, convenience light, SBD police approved, remotes and internal switch. Same door without light and alarm and SBD is coming in at £1,800. Same concerns about motor failure.

    4. Any recommendations for brands/style/companies in London/Essex?


    I quite liked the look of the Hormann sectional until I read the reviews but maybe they're a red herring?

    All thoughts welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Hopefully this will spark some enthusiastic debate as I know many TZ members love a good garage thread.

    The house we bought 2 years ago has a Gliderol Rollamatic garage door – 10' 6" by 7'. It was installed in 2014 and serviced in 2017.

    It started playing silly buggers over winter, sometimes rolling back up a bit as if there was an obstacle, but nothing was there. Then it seemed to work ok until a few weeks ago when it would roll down with the remote and internal button, but not up.

    Roll around (see what I did there) to the weekend just gone and I put the door in manual mode to push it up, got the car out, then went to auto roll it down and it started bunching on itself until I stopped it. I manually tried to unroll it, with limited success, but had to get it back down otherwise the whole thing would have been exposed. I pushed auto down again and it started flipping up, rolled over itself with much noise and drama, nearly taking me out in the process, and came to a shuddering, grinding halt.

    I flipped it back to manual and managed to pull it back to the ground, and engaged auto again, so at least it's locked, if a little lopsided. Basically, it's come out of its tracks and was flapping about like a sheet in the wind. I've managed to apply a few strategic timbers to stop the flapping, but clearly we need it sorting.

    I phoned the original local company who fitted and serviced it and they don't want to know. Don't deal with Gliderol anymore, but will happily fit me a new door for ££££s. After phoning hundreds of garage specialists, it seems that no one does repairs and if a garage door breaks, it's new or nothing.

    Which, if you're still with me, leads me to my quest for knowledge from the TZ hive mind. Which garage door do I need/want/avoid?

    I'm well down the rabbit hole and looking at same roller door (all infrastructure in place so simple replacement) or sectional doors (needs new frame, might block strip lights).

    Because we use the door quite often – about 4 days a week, twice a day – we're a bit suspicious of another auto door and the motor failing again after a couple of years, but the only manual option seems to be the sectional door.

    After phoning a load of companies I found one who happens to have a Hormann sectional door ready to go after a client changed their mind about the colour. He can fit this for £1100 incl. VAT in manual guise, or £1500 in auto flavour.

    1. Is a sectional door going to be a PITA to manually open and close all the time? Should we just go auto and revel in the luxury of one-touch operation, and risk it failing in a couple of years?
    2. Reading Hormann reviews online doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Flimsy remotes that chew expensive batteries, motor failures after a few months, doors rusting after a couple of years, etc.

    https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/hor...k?sort=recency

    3. Quotes for roller doors are about £2,200 incl VAT. for insulated, alarmed, convenience light, SBD police approved, remotes and internal switch. Same door without light and alarm and SBD is coming in at £1,800. Same concerns about motor failure.

    4. Any recommendations for brands/style/companies in London/Essex?


    I quite liked the look of the Hormann sectional until I read the reviews but maybe they're a red herring?

    All thoughts welcome
    A local guy fitted a Horman sectional door to my mother in laws. We ran it for three years then the house was sold. It ran faultlessly during that time. Its automated using a Alutec motor. The installed cost was £1600. It fitted well and the garage was notably warmer as it is a sandwich construction rather than the grp one she had before.

    We have since asked the same installer to fit an Alutec motor to our up and over door and again no issues in three years operation.

    At the time of installing the Hormann sectional door the installer said , overall roller doors are better and cheaper BUT….not everyone has the space above the lintel to install them.

    We are in North Wales and whilst out installer was first class it a fair old run to you.

    Steve
    Last edited by higham5; 17th April 2024 at 13:07.

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    We had a horman sectional installed in the last house in Hertfordshire and were very happy with it

    Aunt in the same neighbourhood has a double garage and only wanted one door modified to electric (donít use the other) and used the same guys

    Scott at SDM https://www.sdmdoors.co.uk/

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    We have a Horman double up and over door with a Horman auto opener. Our garage door is constantly up and down like a whore's drawers and we've never had any issues with it. We've been here 3 years in September and the remotes are still on their original batteries but I also have an app on my mobile that will operate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    A local guy fitted a Horman sectional door to my mother in laws. We ran it for three years then the house was sold. It ran faultlessly during that time. Its automated using a Alutec motor. The installed cost was £1600. It fitted well and the garage was notably warmer as it is a sandwich construction rather than the grp one she had before.

    We have since asked the same installer to fit an Alutec motor to our up and over door and again no issues in three years operation.

    At the time of installing the Hormann sectional door the installer said , overall roller doors are better and cheaper BUTÖ.not everyone has the space above the lintel to install them.

    We are in North Wales and whilst out installer was first class it a fair old run to you.

    Steve
    Useful to know, thanks.

    Not sure about roller doors being better. I guess less maintenance with a roller door?

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    Ok the subject of electric garage doors itís worth considering a wifi plug for the motor. Decent peace of mind when on holiday etc

    I used to have my one off always and just get Siri to turn it on when I was one road away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    We had a horman sectional installed in the last house in Hertfordshire and were very happy with it

    Aunt in the same neighbourhood has a double garage and only wanted one door modified to electric (donít use the other) and used the same guys

    Scott at SDM https://www.sdmdoors.co.uk/
    Quote Originally Posted by Thewatchbloke View Post
    We have a Horman double up and over door with a Horman auto opener. Our garage door is constantly up and down like a whore's drawers and we've never had any issues with it. We've been here 3 years in September and the remotes are still on their original batteries but I also have an app on my mobile that will operate it.
    Thanks both. So Hormann don't seem to be the pariah's that Trustpilot make out.

    How did we make decisions in the days before the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Thanks both. So Hormann don't seem to be the pariah's that Trustpilot make out.

    How did we make decisions in the days before the internet?
    My parents are going with a Hormann too, having had a call at the weekend where my dad seems to have destroyed his old one in a similar fashion to you!

    They only moved in 4 weeks ago & I reckon it was done a long time before, but who checks a garage door when buying a house?

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    Hormann here too. Electric and sectional. Has only required 1 service in 15 years.

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    It's all looking conclusive then

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    We had an electric Garador retractable one fitted about six weeks ago and although itís too early to say if there are any issues, we were only offered Garador by most companies. I think one offered a Hormann sectional door but we couldnít go for it due to the opening of the garage.


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    We didnít want to lose the space used by a sectional door so went for a roller. Coincidentally we also used SDM as above. We are just North of London.

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    Hormann make one of the best sectional doors on the market. They are expensive but worth the extra. £1500 is a great price for an electric Hormann sectional door.

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    I have two up and over doors on my garage. One is electrically operated and I'd like to change that for a roller so this is interesting.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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