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    SPOTY 23

    Still love this show.

    Don't need to watch sport for the year, can get a full update in 2 hours!

    It's good that they give a platform to disabled sport and women's sport too

    Bit schmaltzy but Beep do it well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    Still love this show.

    Don't need to watch sport for the year, can get a full update in 2 hours!

    It's good that they give a platform to disabled sport and women's sport too

    Bit schmaltzy but Beep do it well.



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    The shows dead, just another tickbox exercise to please…

    Earps SPOTY, yeah ok….

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    It’s dead, can only vote from a shortlist selected by the panel, effectively from sports shown by the BBC

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    And now relegated from a flagship Sunday evening slot to Tuesday.
    Didn't watch it, will hope to do so on catchup, but the Beeb just doesn't have the ability to show it all any more, so the programme really lacks in non-Olympic years.

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    Hopefully will go the way of Question of Sport fairly soon.

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    Frankie Dettori was shortlisted for the main award but is not British (is he??). Erling Haaland was born in Leeds but only won the overseas award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Frankie Dettori was shortlisted for the main award but is not British (is he??). Erling Haaland was born in Leeds but only won the overseas award.
    And whatever you think of him Verstappen should have won that, but the BBC don’t show Formula One

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    A shadow of its former self but watched and voted. For me the winner should have been KJT, battled back from career threatening injuries to win a world title in a multi-discipline solo event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Hopefully will go the way of Question of Sport fairly soon.
    Think the same.

    KJT for me too or Verstappen

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    Garbage list of nominees.
    It's finished.

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    It was finished years ago. Not watched it for around a decade now. Pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig1912 View Post
    Think the same.

    KJT for me too or Verstappen
    Verstappen is devoid of any personality.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Verstappen is devoid of any personality.
    I’m starting to think when he’s out of robot mode he does have a fairly normal personality, if there is such a thing in that environment

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    That's the spirit TZers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Hopefully will go the way of Question of Sport fairly soon.
    As should the BBC :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    That's the spirit TZers!

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    Is Mary Earps sponsored by Ann Summers🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    And whatever you think of him Verstappen should have won that, but the BBC don’t show Formula One
    What live sport does the BBC show these days? If only they put as much effort into broadcasting sport as they do in making SPOTY

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    After the summer he had I find it hard to believe Stuart Broad only finished second.

    Mary Earps just loosed off a few expletives after that penalty save and that is it.

    What about Broady goading the Aussies after they stumped Bairstow? Or hitting your final ball for six and taking a wicket with your final delivery in Test cricket??

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0hnbarker View Post
    After the summer he had I find it hard to believe Stuart Broad only finished second.

    Mary Earps just loosed off a few expletives after that penalty save and that is it.

    What about Broady goading the Aussies after they stumped Bairstow? Or hitting your final ball for six and taking a wicket with your final delivery in Test cricket??
    I voted for him but clearly Mearps had the greater pull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    What is?


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    The grumpy responses! Quality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    The grumpy responses! Quality!

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    Obviously your opinion…


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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Obviously your opinion…


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    Absolutely

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    The question I have is what is/are the criteria used in deciding the shortlist and winners. Maybe the results make more sense if we know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wall View Post
    Is Mary Earps sponsored by Ann Summers樂
    I thought she was trying to be superman and wear her pants on the outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    The question I have is what is/are the criteria used in deciding the shortlist and winners. Maybe the results make more sense if we know that.
    1. Pick a Lioness.
    2. Select other nominees, but make sure they’re not too popular, have not had their best years, or are from obscure sports.
    3. Select a WSL match featuring the Lioness to broadcast the weekend before SPOTY.
    4. In the days before SPOTY post numerous articles all over the internet gushing about Lioness.
    5. Employ former Lioness to gush about Lionesses just before the vote opens.

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    Lots of info here

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_...ited%20Kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidL View Post
    I thought she was trying to be superman and wear her pants on the outside.
    “Bold dress statement”

    Emperor’s New Clothes…🤔
    Looked a bit of a tramp I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post

    Clear as mud!

    “… shortlist that reflects UK sporting achievements on the national and/or international stage, represents the breadth and depth of UK sports and takes into account 'impact' within and beyond the sport or sporting achievement in question.“

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Clear as mud!

    “… shortlist that reflects UK sporting achievements on the national and/or international stage, represents the breadth and depth of UK sports and takes into account 'impact' within and beyond the sport or sporting achievement in question.“
    It’s this bit that’s most telling for me:

    “Prior to 2012, a panel of 30 sports journalists each submitted a list of 10 contenders. From these contenders a shortlist of ten nominees was determined. This method was criticized following the selection of an all-male shortlist in 2011. The selection process for contenders was changed for the 2012 and subsequent awards by the introduction of an expert panel.”

    Diversity now trumps achievement. Now I’m sure that Mary Earps would still have been nominated under the old system, and I’m sure the likes of Emma Raducanu would still have won under the old system, but the current system does restrict the levels of competition and means that equally worthy winners miss out on even a nomination if they mean that the final contenders aren’t seen as diverse enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    It’s this bit that’s most telling for me:

    “Prior to 2012, a panel of 30 sports journalists each submitted a list of 10 contenders. From these contenders a shortlist of ten nominees was determined. This method was criticized following the selection of an all-male shortlist in 2011. The selection process for contenders was changed for the 2012 and subsequent awards by the introduction of an expert panel.”

    Diversity now trumps achievement. Now I’m sure that Mary Earps would still have been nominated under the old system, and I’m sure the likes of Emma Raducanu would still have won under the old system, but the current system does restrict the levels of competition and means that equally worthy winners miss out on even a nomination if they mean that the final contenders aren’t seen as diverse enough.
    Yeah but....

    So who didn't get nominated that should have, that doesn't tick a diversity box?

    Apart from Josh Kerr. Tom Pidcock, Alex Yee?

    Rocket Ronnie, Fury? Both public stated they don't want to be involved?

    Millie Bright is probably the one. Won the league, the cup, semis of CL, captained her country to the world cup final coming back from a serious injury......

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    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ty-of-the-year

    It's as if Marina Hyde has read this thread.

    Misunderstanding of the word "personality." CHECK
    The vote was wrong. CHECK
    The BBC was wrong. CHECK
    Her clothing was wrong. CHECK
    Someone else should have won it, who wasn't nominated. CHECK
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ty-of-the-year

    It's as if Marina Hyde has read this thread.

    Misunderstanding of the word "personality." CHECK
    The vote was wrong. CHECK
    The BBC was wrong. CHECK
    Her clothing was wrong. CHECK
    Someone else should have won it, who wasn't nominated. CHECK
    I came here to post the same thing, it is amusing watching a bunch of middle aged men get their knickers in a twist 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougair View Post
    I came here to post the same thing, it is amusing watching a bunch of middle aged men get their knickers in a twist 🤣
    Well said!

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    Hardly getting knickers in a twist, if you didn’t want an opinion then why post it in the first place, unless you’re a bit of a troll who likes a bit of drama…


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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Hardly getting knickers in a twist, if you didn’t want an opinion then why post it in the first place, unless you’re a bit of a troll who likes a bit of drama…


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    Me thinks you doth protest too much 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    And your point is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig1912 View Post
    And your point is?
    That Joey Barton is in absolutely no way qualified to criticise Mary Earps, he is completely in her shadow achievement wise and comes across as a bit of a t*t in his comments.

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    To be honest I had only heard of 4 of the nominees: Dettori,Rory ,Johnso-Thompson and vaguely Broad.
    The box tickers have killed the show
    Haven't sat down and watched it in a few years now.

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