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    UEFA Champions League 2023/24

    Going to be a strange Champions League not seeing my club involved, not even Thursday night football this year. So I doubt Iíll watch it so closely.

    Some interesting draws and a real ďGroup of DeathĒ for Newcastle.

    Group A
    Bayern, Man Utd, Copenhagen & Galatasaray

    Group B
    Sevilla, Arsenal, PSV & Lens

    Group C
    Napoli, Real Madrid, Braga & Union Berlin

    Group D
    Benfica, Inter, Salzburg & Real Sociedad

    Group E
    Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio & Celtic

    Group F
    PSG, Dortmund, Milan & Newcastle

    Group G
    Man City, Leipzig, Crvena Zvezda, Young Boys

    Group H
    Barcelona, Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk & Antwerp


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    Arsenal got a good draw, and Arteta said we are winning it so that's one cup in the bag

    Newcastle got a hard draw, Dortmund will be the key match, Milan are pretty average these days, PSG should win the group.

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    City Favourites for the tournament, Bayern 2nd Favourites, Madrid 3rd Favourites and Arsenal 4th favourites. That's with the bookies.

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    I can't see past Madrid or City winning it. I'd love to see Bayern win it though with Kane being top scorer in the competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    City Favourites for the tournament, Bayern 2nd Favourites, Madrid 3rd Favourites and Arsenal 4th favourites. That's with the bookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    I can't see past Madrid or City winning it. I'd love to see Bayern win it though with Kane being top scorer in the competition.
    I wouldn't disagree with that other to say that very often the best team does not win it, luck (both good and bad) has a big say once you get to the knockouts. Red card, keeper plays a blinder etc etc

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    Question on a hypothetical situation. As it stands PL clubs get 4 CL slots. Based on UEFA coefficient this season 3 extra CL slots are provided to best performing nations in UEFA club competitions so we could get another slot for 5 in total. The winner of the Europa League gets a CL slot, say Liverpool or Brighton win that and finish 6th. So that's 6 slots. And the winner of the CL gets a slot. Say Arsenal win that and finish 7th in the PL.

    Am I right in saying we could have up to 7 teams in the CL next season if the above unfolded?

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    At what point are Newcastle going to realise they are basically playing Fulham away? Milan are terrible, it is just that Newcastle seem overawed

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    Absolutely couldnít disagree more. Comfortable in possession and not taking unnecessary risks. Iíd have coached this in exactly the same way. I think weíll take Murphy off for Wilson with 20 mins left and try to nick a goal. Wouldnít that make it the perfect away performance?

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    At what point are Newcastle going to realise they are basically playing Fulham away? Milan are terrible, it is just that Newcastle seem overawed

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Absolutely couldnít disagree more. Comfortable in possession and not taking unnecessary risks. Iíd have coached this in exactly the same way. I think weíll take Murphy off for Wilson with 20 mins left and try to nick a goal. Wouldnít that make it the perfect away performance?
    No because Milan are pony and if Newcastle had played properly they could have spanked them
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    Eddie Howe unbeaten in the Champions League.

    Told you he was good enough at this level.


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    That was a tough watch to be fair. I'd imagine Dortmund and PSG will both take 6 points off Milan. But if Newcastle can win all 3 at St James' then that San Siro point may prove to be a point gained as opposed to 2 points dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    You must be joking, Milan were all over them and should have easily won. A half decent striker and they would have been 3-0

    Are you Glen Hoddle in disguise?

    On a separate note, why are Scottish fans booing earthquake victims? First at the England Scotland game now the minutes silence in the Celtic game seemed to have a few making a noise.
    There was some crowd noise at the Etihad during the silence as well - don't know if it came from City fans or Red Star fans though
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    How biased against Man City are the commentary team?!!? Talking about getting 'punished at this level' as if City are rookies. McCoist was creaming his pants when Red Star scored

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    There was some crowd noise at the Etihad during the silence as well - don't know if it came from City fans or Red Star fans though
    Apologies
    That was me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Apologies
    That was me .
    PMSL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    McCoist was creaming his pants when Red Star scored
    Didnít watch but as a general observation, I struggle to understand the ďloveĒ that he gets a a pundit.

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    Come back De Gea all is forgiven?


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    This could be a rout...

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    United had not started too badly but that goalkeeping mistake has clearly taken the wind out of their sails.


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    Arsenal pumping PSV. Hopefully we can take some players off and rest them for Spurs.

    Shame for Ramsdale but Raya looks a much better keeper on the ball.

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    Anyone else getting signal issues on their Sky box?

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    That penalty decision is a joke, ruining football..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Anyone else getting signal issues on their Sky box?
    No all good with me.


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    That young kid for Bayern is having a worldie

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    Heís damn impressive!


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    4-0 Arsenal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    That penalty decision is a joke, ruining football..
    What ? His arm is away from his body. Easy decision that itís a pen.

    Yernited have be woeful could / should have been 10-1.


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    Great finish that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    What ? His arm is away from his body. Easy decision that itís a pen.

    Yernited have be woeful could / should have been 10-1.


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    Aye ok, whatever you say...

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    Gunners the best team of round 1 so far, aside from City I'd fancy our chances against anyone else however it is early days of course!

    Haavertz played pretty well tonight I thought
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    Bellingham's the darling of Madrid again tonight, has any Englishman made an more impressive start to their career abroad when the big clubs come calling?

    Future Ballon d'or winner right there...

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    Good game, Bayern deserved winners. Great to see two teams slogging it out. One team in transition, the other solid and strong. Big clubs nonetheless. History, emotion, tradition, always on view when teams like this meet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Aye ok, whatever you say...
    No itís what the rules say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    No itís what the rules say.


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    If you think he deliberately handled the ball there then I think you are sniffing something, he had no chance to move his arm out of the way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    Good game, Bayern deserved winners. Great to see two teams slogging it out. One team in transition, the other solid and strong. Big clubs nonetheless. History, emotion, tradition, always on view when teams like this meet
    Both were terrible, I'd love Arsenal to get either in the knock-outs, we'd pump them.

    Want to avoid City until the final, Real will come good, the rest of the teams weren't impressive at all. Can't see past City although if we got them in a one-off game (ie the final) then you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Bellingham's the darling of Madrid again tonight, has any Englishman made an more impressive start to their career abroad when the big clubs come calling?

    Future Ballon d'or winner right there...
    Owen?

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    Reality check time. Arsenal arenít getting to the final and arenít beating City if they meet at any stage of the tournament. Real and Bayern beat Arsenal for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Both were terrible, I'd love Arsenal to get either in the knock-outs, we'd pump them.

    Want to avoid City until the final, Real will come good, the rest of the teams weren't impressive at all. Can't see past City although if we got them in a one-off game (ie the final) then you never know.

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    It doesnít have to be deliberate hand ball. Most arenít these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    If you think he deliberately handled the ball there then I think you are sniffing something, he had no chance to move his arm out of the way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middo View Post
    Owen?
    Not a bad shout I suppose, it'll be interesting to see how many goals Jude gets this season, Owen got 16 and he was a striker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    If you think he deliberately handled the ball there then I think you are sniffing something, he had no chance to move his arm out of the way...
    Ah, I didnít realise you have no idea what the rules are.

    Have a read buddy, youíll realise itís a clear penalty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Martylaa View Post
    Bellingham's the darling of Madrid again tonight, has any Englishman made an more impressive start to their career abroad when the big clubs come calling?

    Future Ballon d'or winner right there...
    Did Lineker not score a hattrick for Barca v Real in his first season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Reality check time. Arsenal arenít getting to the final and arenít beating City if they meet at any stage of the tournament. Real and Bayern beat Arsenal for me.
    Yeah I don't expect us to get to the final and Bayern for sure have the players to hurt any team but they were a bit rubbish today. What I meant was playing City in a one off at Wembley would give Arsenal a better chance than over 2 legs however whilst everyone was watching Bayern/United tonight Arsenal pumped a team that was on the longest unbeaten run in Europe (26 games) and we looked pretty handy.

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    PSV looked very average and didn't offer anything after about 60mins. Best player was probably their full back Dest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Both were terrible, I'd love Arsenal to get either in the knock-outs, we'd pump them.

    Want to avoid City until the final, Real will come good, the rest of the teams weren't impressive at all. Can't see past City although if we got them in a one-off game (ie the final) then you never know.
    Want to avoid City until the final????

    I dont see Arsenal going past the quarters, you beat a PSV side who arent scaring any of the elite in Europe, Munich would beat Arsenal for me,

    the 4-3 loss feels like a moral victory for me take away the gk howler, and the stupid handball rule and we won 3-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    Want to avoid City until the final????

    I dont see Arsenal going past the quarters, you beat a PSV side who arent scaring any of the elite in Europe, Munich would beat Arsenal for me,

    the 4-3 loss feels like a moral victory for me take away the gk howler, and the stupid handball rule and we won 3-2
    Brilliant, apart from what happened and the rules, Utd won...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Brilliant, apart from what happened and the rules, Utd won...
    It was banter - I was expecting to get hammered

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    Want to avoid City until the final????

    I dont see Arsenal going past the quarters, you beat a PSV side who arent scaring any of the elite in Europe, Munich would beat Arsenal for me,

    the 4-3 loss feels like a moral victory for me take away the gk howler, and the stupid handball rule and we won 3-2
    No way would last night's Munich have beaten Arsenal.

    Re getting past the quarters well if we avoid City (and maybe Madrid) I'd fancy our chances against any of the others. We are talking about the 2nd best team in the best league in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    No way would last night's Munich have beaten Arsenal.

    Re getting past the quarters well if we avoid City (and maybe Madrid) I'd fancy our chances against any of the others. We are talking about the 2nd best team in the best league in the world.
    Tottenham arenít in the champions league this season ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    Want to avoid City until the final????

    I dont see Arsenal going past the quarters, you beat a PSV side who arent scaring any of the elite in Europe, Munich would beat Arsenal for me,

    the 4-3 loss feels like a moral victory for me take away the gk howler, and the stupid handball rule and we won 3-2
    I'm guessing that would be the same stupid handball rule that gifted you a penalty against Man City in the FA Cup Final? :)

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    Good performance from Arsenal, but PSV are pretty average. CL is a lot of luck, if we get a easy draw we could make the semis, but once we come up against City, Bayern, Real, I can see us struggling over 2 legs. Good to be back in the CL and winning matches.

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