This 5513 looks so so wrong on so many fronts but I can’t work out if it’s a fraken or total fake, what do you think?
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...lot-image-link
This 5513 looks so so wrong on so many fronts but I can’t work out if it’s a fraken or total fake, what do you think?
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...lot-image-link
Last edited by murkeywaters; 10th August 2023 at 09:27.
Looks very dodgy to me, i'd say its a fake.
Dial (Looks like it was badly painted) and insert dont look real, its got hands that don't match and the movement is missing it's calibre model number. As far as i know it should have 1520 near the "SWISS" marking.
Last edited by AmosMoses; 10th August 2023 at 09:43.
And maybe only worth what any Rolex are worth now so shouldn't be a huge loss hopefully!.
I'm far from an expert, but that dial does look off to me, even if I can't quite explain why.
The replacement hands and modern bezel insert with probably a luminova pip do create a distorted image against the older looking dial.
The 3, 6 and 9 plots do look a little odd, you can almost see where someone has drawn an oblong and it looks bigger than the area filled with whatever (tritium?).
Last edited by Wallasey Runner; 10th August 2023 at 13:36.
Serial number quoted in the description
As an aside; love the description - Ticking at present.
And appears to have been recently serviced but no accompanying service paperwork. Most odd
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Another non expert her l here but zoom in and the coronet looks far from symmetrical, the 3,6 and 9 markers seem to have 'ears' on the corners, the 12 triangle tip looks skew. These are possibly just distortions though. Other things that just feel odd with the dial, the aged plots look remarkably uniform in colour...hmm. Then to my eyes the crown guards look too wide and the fit of the bracelet.... were they that tight on 5613s? The hands and insert could be service swaps but although it's hard to tell from one photo other stuff like the bezel coin edge looks crisp, showing no wear, case too looks free from major blemish, wear or polishing... No it's too much of a mix and too good condition for a watch of some age, a tool watch of some age. My thought is its fake.