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Thread: Is this the 62MAS Re-Edition that we've been waiting for...?

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    Is this the 62MAS Re-Edition that we've been waiting for...?

    Looks great but why the low grade movement and why is it a limited edition?

    https://www.fratellowatches.com/intr...as-the-sje093/

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    I like that, great proportions but agree at that money the movement is disappointing.

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    nice but still can't understand why the prices variations.


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    not bad, but not as nice as the 017 or the 37 imo..

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    Nice looking watch - case back also a great copy.
    But you could easily buy a very decent original 6217-8001 for the same / less.

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    Looks great but the price is way over ... the BB58/54 offer a better watch in that price range.

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    Very nice, almost there but price......

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    How much???

    I wouldn’t say the 6L is a low grade movement. I think I prefer this (on paper) to the SLA017. It’s difficult to justify it over a Tudor though.

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    Lovely looking watch, but I don't know what Seiko management is smoking with a 6-grade movement (which isn't exactly stunning) at that price point.

    Edited to add:

    I originally read this as being a 6R, but it's a 6L which is supposedly improved, however I'm still unconvinced that it's worth the money they're asking.
    Last edited by threescoops; 4th July 2023 at 10:29.

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    Nice.....but overpriced,but as always it will sell out immediately.


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    Too expensive and movement not good enough for the price.

    Seiko really do love to make a limited edition and then shaft the people who buy it.

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    Completely overpriced. I can't afford it at present. Seiko taking the p*ss.

    Now off to pre-order it

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    Movement is the only issue for me as that is gorgeous. Sorely tempted to get one.

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    It just shows how much better it looks without the X type symbol on the dial especially with re issues.

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    Ł3180 UK price, pre ordering now. Chisholm Hunter only getting 2 in the UK

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    I'd be surprised if there was any discount on these but if you don't ask you don't get!

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    Been waiting decades for that watch, but not at Ł3K.

    Seiko have gone completely doolally-tap in the last few years. And so have their punters.

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    Classic Seiko: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - some really worthwhile features, completely undone by second-rate movement and p-take pricing.

    ...And, for me, their perpetual resistance to using a ceramic bezel insert is another nail in the coffin - PVD scratches nearly as easily as anodised aluminium IME, and sits poorly alongside the hardened-steel case and sapphire crystal in the longevity stakes.

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    Have a look at the new IWC Ingenieur. Ł11k watch with the same movement found in their Ł5k Mark XX.

    Quote Originally Posted by seikomatic View Post
    nice but still can't understand why the prices variations.


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    All sold out at London Seiko Boutique, reserve list only now

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    Nobody spotted that stupid lume dot at 3 o’clock? Seiko you are allowed to ignore ISO specs on 62MAS recreations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Classic Seiko: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - some really worthwhile features, completely undone by second-rate movement and p-take pricing.

    ...And, for me, their perpetual resistance to using a ceramic bezel insert is another nail in the coffin - PVD scratches nearly as easily as anodised aluminium IME, and sits poorly alongside the hardened-steel case and sapphire crystal in the longevity stakes.
    I understand in some regards, but the movement definitely isn’t second-rate. 6L35 has only been used in a couple of the LE Presages, but is the basis for several Credor movements - uncommon it maybe, but second-rate I would not say. It’s not an ‘8L-XX’ movement certainly, bit I wouldn’t say it was the ginger stepchild of the range.
    I really like it and am tempted, but as lovely as it is I know I’d long for a coloured bezel
    and hand like (your!) SLA043. I have too many dark-faced watches and want a bit more vibrancy.

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    Typical of the watch world - if something actually looks right and is the right size, limit the run and charge a fortune. Meaning most watches are sort of deliberately wrong.

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    Seiko have lost the plot.

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    I wonder sometimes if there are a couple of execs at Seiko HQ with a wager on how much they can get a bunch of suckers to pay for a misaligned bezel or chapter ring.
    Last edited by Seamaster73; 4th July 2023 at 16:06.

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    Seiko Fans ' we want a diver's watch that's less than 40mm wide and less than 13mm thick'

    Seiko 'Et voila!'

    Seiko fans 'three grand I'm out!'

    Seiko fans 2 years later 'ah this is actually the proper reissue, even more so than the SLA017, guess I'll pay the Ł6k ebay asking then'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Seiko Fans ' we want a diver's watch that's less than 40mm wide and less than 13mm thick'

    Seiko 'Et voila!'

    Seiko fans 'three grand I'm out!'

    Seiko fans 2 years later 'ah this is actually the proper reissue, even more so than the SLA017, guess I'll pay the Ł6k ebay asking then'

    20:20 crystal-ball!

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    It would be interesting to revisit this thread in a year or so & see how many "Won't buy" became buyers.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Seiko Fans ' we want a diver's watch that's less than 40mm wide and less than 13mm thick'

    Seiko 'Et voila!'

    Seiko fans 'three grand I'm out!'

    Seiko fans 2 years later 'ah this is actually the proper reissue, even more so than the SLA017, guess I'll pay the Ł6k ebay asking then'
    Completely agree.
    This is why enthusiasts are the worse bunch to listen to; same in the car world!
    I reckon like the SLA017/037/043 there’ll be a flurry of interest initially, then a few that hang around dealers for a while before being reduced. Then a quiet year or two before they climb quite significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeBird View Post
    Completely agree.
    This is why enthusiasts are the worse bunch to listen to; same in the car world!
    I reckon like the SLA017/037/043 there’ll be a flurry of interest initially, then a few that hang around dealers for a while before being reduced. Then a quiet year or two before they climb quite significantly.
    Fortunately, Ryan’s will be available for sale shortly after release for 30% off.

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    If it's was a dark black dial I would be all over this release

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    Some rationale re the use of the movement - remember it is an upgraded version of the 6 series movement but the main reason for using this instead of the 8 series is they couldn't make the watch as thin as it is with an 8 series movement hence the new version of the 6 series. But it is upgraded from the existing 6 series so a like for like comparison can't be made with what is in the Ł1k divers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Seiko Fans ' we want a diver's watch that's less than 40mm wide and less than 13mm thick'

    Seiko 'Et voila!'

    Seiko fans 'three grand I'm out!'

    Seiko fans 2 years later 'ah this is actually the proper reissue, even more so than the SLA017, guess I'll pay the Ł6k ebay asking then'
    You forgot to add:
    Seiko - don't worry, once the LE has largely sold out their will be 3 new colourways and those 3 colourways in a dlc black coated case versions, all with no limit and at a more sensible price.

    Seoko fans, hmm, maybe I'll wait.

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    One left to pre order here if anyone is struggling to locate one

    https://www.pleasanceandharper.co.uk...tion-sje093j1/

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    I don’t like it, but others clearly do which is fine.
    Andy

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    Really looks the part but I am glad I recently bought an original for a lot less money.

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    Pleasant enough watch, mad price. I’m sure there are enough obsessive WIS worldwide to mop them up though.

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    It’s nice but for the same / similar money you are able to buy an original
    I know what I would prefer.

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    I think it looks beautiful. However, 38mm for a diver is a tad too small and the price is not reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berty234 View Post
    I think it looks beautiful. However, 38mm for a diver is a tad too small and the price is not reasonable.
    It's the original size though, that's the point.

    I suspect some SLA017 owners will be livid as they now no longer have the 'proper' reissue of the 62MAS and I suspect values will drop

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    It's the original size though, that's the point.

    I suspect some SLA017 owners will be livid as they now no longer have the 'proper' reissue of the 62MAS and I suspect values will drop
    I think you are correct. This one is now THE 62MAS reissue. I’d like one but not at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    It's the original size though, that's the point.

    I suspect some SLA017 owners will be livid as they now no longer have the 'proper' reissue of the 62MAS and I suspect values will drop
    Fully agree regarding your first point Ryan. Regarding your second point, some will and some won't, and your third point, I do hope so.

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    Original size is too small then :)

    Might make it a truer re-release, but not a great size for a diver today imho.
    Last edited by Berty234; 5th July 2023 at 15:39.

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    Seiko UK have informed me that the UK and Ireland will be only receiving 29 of these watches, out of the 1965.

    I'm betting that there will be more than 29 people who want to buy this watch!

    I kind of hate myself for feeding the hype by starting this thread but it seems like this one will sell-out before it even hits the shops.
    Last edited by Rocket Man; 5th July 2023 at 18:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Man View Post
    Seiko UK have informed me that the UK and Ireland will be only receiving 29 of these watches, out of the 1965.

    I kind of hate myself for feeding the hype by starting this thread but it seems like this one will sell-out before it even hits the shops.
    500 going to Japan so maybe try one of the C24 ADs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    500 going to Japan so maybe try one of the C24 ADs?
    Thanks Ryan, I was able to pre-order one (which I also kind of hate myself for).

    Apparently Beaverbrook’s and Goldsmiths will also be getting some in stock.
    Last edited by Rocket Man; 5th July 2023 at 18:47.

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    Stupid pointless lume dot at 3 o’clock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berty234 View Post
    Original size is too small then :)

    Might make it a truer re-release, but not a great size for a diver today imho.
    Imagine what the reaction would be if Rolex re-released a 37mm Paul Newman Daytona!
    Last edited by Rocket Man; 6th July 2023 at 07:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    Stupid pointless lume dot at 3 o’clock
    It looks like just a minute marker not a lume plot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Man View Post
    It looks like just a minute marker not a lume plot?
    It is lume. To complie with ISO specifications

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