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    HPI Checks

    How accurate (or not are these)

    Dealer has a cheap car that my lad fancies - says 2 previous owners (last one for 15 years, a vicar that kept it in a hermetically sealed garage etc...)
    The details pulled out automatically on some of the sales sites show 5 plate changes, another one 2 changes.

    Actually paying for a report (vcheck) says 9 previous keepers and 9 plates changes. Ouch.


    Is there a single source of truth for these things?

    Cheers,

    Pete

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    Talk to the dealer and ask to see the V5?
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    I think I would believe HPI rather than what a dealer told me. Can you get to look at the V5 that used to show number of prvious owner ( don't know if it still does).

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    Will have to check (if I even bother - there's other flags and it'll be a day of my time to go and see it - think it's bin fodder)

    Cheers all.

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    A vicar - classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    A vicar - classic

    That was made up ;)

    Few other things didnt tally - postcode and doing some digging for same user on ebay the feedback is his mate with the same bad spelling on past fake items.

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    VCheck & Car Vertical are well worth checking, but CV seems pretty expensive unless you are sure it's the car for you:

    https://www.vcheck.uk/
    https://www.carvertical.com/gb

    Here's a tale of why HPI may not be worth the paper it's written on:

    https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...f=23&t=2039955

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pointy View Post
    VCheck & Car Vertical are well worth checking, but CV seems pretty expensive unless you are sure it's the car for you:

    https://www.vcheck.uk/
    https://www.carvertical.com/gb

    Here's a tale of why HPI may not be worth the paper it's written on:

    https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...f=23&t=2039955
    That story's crazy. So insurers are under no legal obligation to declare a stolen/recovered vehicle sold at salvage? Nice racket and confirms all my beliefs about car insurance - it's one massive scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stooo View Post
    Talk to the dealer and ask to see the V5?
    They won’t show you them anymore, GDPR and all that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    That story's crazy. So insurers are under no legal obligation to declare a stolen/recovered vehicle sold at salvage? Nice racket and confirms all my beliefs about car insurance - it's one massive scam.
    What’s stranger to me is that no-one will buy the car because it was sold at a ‘salvage’ auction. Don’t see why that’s relevant, nothing wrong with the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    What’s stranger to me is that no-one will buy the car because it was sold at a ‘salvage’ auction. Don’t see why that’s relevant, nothing wrong with the car.
    Would you buy similar if you knew the history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pointy View Post
    VCheck & Car Vertical are well worth checking, but CV seems pretty expensive unless you are sure it's the car for you:

    https://www.vcheck.uk/
    https://www.carvertical.com/gb

    Here's a tale of why HPI may not be worth the paper it's written on:

    https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...f=23&t=2039955

    No dog in the fight here but if you use the Code SR10 you should get 10% off on the Carvertical site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Would you buy similar if you knew the history?
    It it was re-sellable, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    They won’t show you them anymore, GDPR and all that
    If you’re just wanting to see how many registered keepers and reg / VIN there’s no problem in showing the V5


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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    They won’t show you them anymore, GDPR and all that
    They should do. There’s no information regarding details of the previous keeper on the V5 any more however it will confirm the number of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    It it was re-sellable, why not?
    But it's not re-sellable, which is the point. I suppose she could have sold it privately but she chose to tie herself in with a finance company, making it more difficult.

    Why would you buy a car that was stolen/recovered unless it was a silly price, and even then it would have to be a silly, silly price?

    IMO she was misled by insurance not declaring the stolen/recovered/salvage status because, weirdly, they don't have to, and she paid full price on top.

    Whether the car is running ok or not is moot. It's a scam against the consumer to protect the financial interests of an insurance underwriter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    But it's not re-sellable, which is the point. I suppose she could have sold it privately but she chose to tie herself in with a finance company, making it more difficult.

    Why would you buy a car that was stolen/recovered unless it was a silly price, and even then it would have to be a silly, silly price?
    Well my point still stands - if dealers didn't all behave like this (refusing to deal with stolen cars) they'd be no problem.

    Would you buy a stolen/recovered watch? Only if a silly, silly price I suppose, why should a car be different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Well my point still stands - if dealers didn't all behave like this (refusing to deal with stolen cars) they'd be no problem.

    Would you buy a stolen/recovered watch? Only if a silly, silly price I suppose, why should a car be different?
    Realistically, I'm not in the market for stolen/recovered watches or cars, but feel free to scour the salvage auctions for your next motor if it makes you happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Realistically, I'm not in the market for stolen/recovered watches or cars, but feel free to scour the salvage auctions for your next motor if it makes you happy.
    Not in the market for a watch/car but that’s just nonsense - how would you know that any 2nd hand watch was never stolen? Is it forever tainted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Not in the market for a watch/car but that’s just nonsense - how would you know that any 2nd hand watch was never stolen? Is it forever tainted?
    I don't care. Just buy a stolen/recovered car and enjoy. I'll avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I don't care. Just buy a stolen/recovered car and enjoy. I'll avoid.
    That's nice, though I did say

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Not in the market for a watch/car
    Crack on anyway.

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