Surperby manly topic.
Our old cheapo half and half oil drum one has rusted out so need a new one. Key rule is no gas, no electronics and if it comes with an app it can get in the sea.
So, advice for an "analogue" replacement please chaps.
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I had a Weber kettle for years, not great on a slow cook as they aren’t very insulated.
Bought a PK360 two years ago, made of cast aluminium, very insulated, so good for low and slow as well as fast grilling.
It’s the best and last BBQ I’ll buy. Not cheap, like most things prices have gone up. I think I paid £600, looks like they are over £800 now!
https://prosmokebbq.co.uk/products/pk-360-graphite
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Thanks. The African in me refuses to pay £800 for a barbecue though! I'd rather dig a hole!Originally Posted by eletos
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Webber or a decent Kamado
If you want to chuck money at the problem get a treager.
In all honesty my Kamado is the one of the best things I have bought. Easy to light, versatile and bangs out great food.
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Huge thread on the subject. Search “Webber”
All these spelling mistakes are wreaking havoc with my searches ;-/
If your using coal get a hair dryer plugged in and let it rip.
You’ll get perfect bbq coals going in 20 seconds.
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Yes, there's only one F in B in Weber.
Cheers.
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https://www.argos.co.uk/product/5981887
Large, reliable, some nice features, economical, effective, 8000 five star reviews.
If it dies in 5 years, buy another one.
I did food for 8 people on ours last night.
For fire and a grill, who the hell needs expensive!
We are men and we make fire!
Agree. This is what we have, or a version thereof. Done us for ten years before corking it. Just wondering if I can upgrade though - but not for £800!
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/5981887
Large, reliable, some nice features, economical, effective, 8000 five star reviews.
If it dies in 5 years, buy another one.
I did food for 8 people on ours last night.
For fire and a grill, who the hell needs expensive!
We are men and we make fire!
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My Weber kettle had its 10th anniversary earlier this year. Perfect for my needs but I also don’t slow cook on it
I received the Nisbets sales brochure yesterday and they have several well known brands with decent discounts.
They also do the x% off for signing up to mailing list thing or going back to a basket without completing purchase, etc.
https://www.nisbets.co.uk/campaign-8...and%20utensils
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Weber kettles are perfect for all purposes. Don't need insulation for slow cooking, it's just a question of technique. They are built to last forever, stay outside in wind and snow and never rust. A lifetime investment.
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Whaaaaaaaaat!!!
I am laughing and crying at the same time
That was quite interesting…. Thanks
OP - get a Weber
YOWZER.
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I am laughing and crying at the same time
I didn’t mean to imply you couldn’t just that I never have. I have cooked leg of lamb over indirect heat but I’ve never tried the long slow techniques.
You don’t have to spend that much on a decent Kamado.
Whaaaaaaaaat!!!
I am laughing and crying at the same time
You should try, it works like a treat.
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It might be my summer project.
I think that without spending Kamodo Joe or Treager money, you cannot go far wrong with a Weber Kettle. I have had mine a few years and it is superb. Standard barbecue, indirect heat slow cooking, super hot with pizza on a pizza stone. Modest price point and excellent results.
Weber Original Kettle Charcoal Grill Barbecue, 57cm | E-5710 BBQ Grill with Lid Cover, Thermometer, Stand & Wheels | Freestanding Outdoor Oven & Cooker with Porcelain-Enamelled Bowl - Black (14101004) https://amzn.eu/d/e9a5PU6
^ If you want to use your kettle grill to make pizza, invest a couple of quid into a pizza ring. The most important heat for pizza is from above, and all that heat is gone in an instant when you open the lid to launch the pizza. A pizza ring enables you to launch and retrieve your pizza without opening the lid.
Absolute game changer.
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My Weber 57cm kettle has just had its 12th birthday and still looks like new (if I clean it up a bit).
Unless you are spending massive £££'s on a BGE or Kamado Joe, just get a Weber and watch a few online tutorials to learn how to use it properly (which most don't seem to bother with), as they are VERY capable and flexible when you get used to them.
Also, buy good quality restaurant grade lumpwood charcoal and store it somewhere nice and dry.
Also, buy a Weber chimney starter too - complete gamechanger!
Another vote for the Weber 57, don’t be tempted by the smaller one or the compact as it isn’t as versatile.
If grilling, I echo on restaurant grade charcoal. If going low & slow good quality Weber briquettes are the best way forward. Don’t use cheap charcoal or easy light stuff, it is nasty.
Another thumbs up for the chimney, never again worry about when to light the bbq. The think is witch craft.
Once you’ve had it a few years, then add a Smokey Mountain smoker, a big gas grill and a couple of green eggs as you get sucked into yet another hobby!
Whats everyone's charcoal of choice as I'm coming to the end of my supply of webber briquettes
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Another Weber fan here. Ours has been going 22 years, and is absolutely fine. We have had to replace a grill in that time but I shall put that down to user error!
I’ve had lots of success with it for slow cooking, esp building a “snake” of charcoal to keep it low and slow. Added a £100 rotisserie from Jeff’s Magic Cupboard a couple of years ago and that’s great fun to play with.
Charcoal wise I use the Big K “Dura” as it burns nice and hot, really evenly and generates very little ash. Final thought: a MEATER thermometer is useful to have, if you’re doing slow cook stuff or cooking big bits of meat.
Big K Dura is also known as ACH15 and so much better than the Chilla Grille product from them. If I cannot get this, I use the Marabu (RCH15) which is more stick like & a little harder to light.
To be fair, a stainless grill is going to struggle to last 22 years - def not a user error.....well unless you managed to bend it with heat.
If going low & slow, the grill with lift up sections on each side makes the fuelling much easier.
I still remember my first pulled pork on the kettle, a labour of love & was overly worried with temperature I sat there right the way through.
OP I think you can see the bbq everyone says to go for!
Weber seems to be the call! A friend tells me he has a kettle syle by Napoleon which is very good. Sort of budget Weber. May have a look at that too.
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There are many copycats on the market. You'll get the same barbecue experience, though probably not the same durability.
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Big K dura it is then, I'll take a look thanks
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Thanks for the excellent advice in this thread - I’ve just upgraded to a Weber kettle and a few of the accessories. Looking forward to having a play this weekend - any recommendations for tutorial vids on YouTube?
Weber themselves have a few books on the matter which are rather good (Mine is with the neighbour at the moment, can't give you the exact title)
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...9Xqv49v51UdP4-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRR2-AeAB0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=337y4bgOcVI
My go to channels for everything BBQ, don't be put off by some of the food used as it's USA and OZ based as the kettles are the same :)
Just to add - one accessory I find invaluable for BBQ cooking is a Thermapen.
It takes the guesswork out of cooking temp sensitive meats.
Fantastic - thanks all!
Timely thread. We have a large and cheap 4 burner gas BBQ. But wondering if we should go for a Weber which should be easier to work with, also we want something a bit smaller!
Plan was maybe to go for gas as we would use it more often. Will follow some of the links above.
Indirect works for me. Charcoal at the back, food at the front, lid on. Remember: if you're lookin', you ain't cookin'.
Yes, that's rule no. 1: lid on. Always.
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Cheaply available on eBay as refurbished ones. Thermapen is so much better than any of the cheaper ones out there.
I've never had a lid on a BBQ in my life.
Rule number 1, is cook the food however you want, just enjoy it.
£10 bbq and £1000 BBQ, whatever.
I've cooked in a hole in the sand on the beach, with drift wood fuel and a supermarket basket upside down. It was superb.
You don't need anything posh to BBQ.
You do you.
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you don't need to spend £10k on a watch
you don't need to spend £50k on a car
That's only one side of what barbecuing is. It's called grilling. That's all you can do without a lid, no smoking, no low and slow for example. It still tastes great but it's not the same thing, it's a braai.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
If we really have to have these deeply unpleasant, revolting and blasphemous discussions about barbecuing without a lid, shouldn't someone move the thread to the Bear Pit?
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Or better still a Meater
https://meater.com/
That is such a 'blokey' gadget.
Love it!
Not better, different.
Thermapen gets much more use.
Have both. The Meater means there is no need to lift the lid and losing the heat which, is important particularly on long slow cooks and useful when on a rotisserie, or cooking anything indirect. It also tells you the air temp within the BBQ which again is vital for long slow cooks. (I also have a dual wired probe which I used before the Meater, for internal and air temp).
Thermapen is useful when grilling without a lid and getting instant readings for steak and burgers.
My baba is with you on that. He sketched this on graph paper 25 or 30 years ago and hasn’t looked back. Not as convenient as the gas though.
Fish tonight.
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