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    Watch reliability

    Seems to be lots and lots of Tudors going wrong, and Seikos with misaligned bezels and terrible time keeping.

    Omega and Rolex not as good as they should be for the price point.

    Grand Seiko perfection and Casio, obviously, the best.

    And never heard about a Panerai going wrong.

    Is there any official measure?

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    most brands are generally reliable, well made with good timekeeping.

    Seikos do have alignment issues, they used to be a much cheaper brand and it did not really matter so much.
    But now they are at a price point where it is really not nice to have and they should take more care to do them right.
    Of course they must know this is a common complaint.

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    Never heard of Panerai going wrong? There have been many stories of servicing woes over the years and plenty of threads about issues. I think it’s something you’ll find on the internet about absolutely anything tbh - thousands of happy customers don’t say a word, a dozen who’ve had problems shout about it thereby skewing any perception.

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    Would that be the Seiko who were banned from chronometer competitions because they were doing a little too well? In the sixties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Would that be the Seiko who were banned from chronometer competitions because they were doing a little too well? In the sixties?
    And how is this relevant to the watches produced today?

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    Get a G-Shock.

    Or just use your phone,better still.....

    Excuse can you tell me what time it is please,as all my watches are broken...


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    Seems to be lots and lots of Tudors going wrong, and Seikos with misaligned bezels and terrible time keeping.

    Omega and Rolex not as good as they should be for the price point.

    Grand Seiko perfection and Casio, obviously, the best.

    And never heard about a Panerai going wrong.

    Is there any official measure?
    I think you always hear about "what's gone wrong" on forums, because if things do go wrong, this is the place to talk about it.
    Some brands have known issues like the Tudor GMT date problem, seikos alignment, and some of the new rolex 32 movements experiencing wobbles and needing to go back to rolex etc etc.

    But if you think about it, every other watch you see on the forms whether it's on the strap thread or Friday thread - is working well.

    Ive had 2 brand new panerai from the same AD which both failed instantly, one on wrist post purchase (372), and the replacement (557) failed in store!
    Same movement inside so maybe it was a batch issue.

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    Not Rolex, Tudor or Panerai-related, but I know of one movement that has a design problem with a single part and that causes failure, the movement's a copy of an ETA design and the ETA version's fine, why they decided to alter this part is beyond me!

    Manufacturer has been notified but as far as I'm aware no change has been made.....Swiss always know best. I can`t name the movement but I`ve fixed several in recent years.

    Generally, mechanical items either fail very early in their life or they're fine for a long time, gradually losing reliability as the item ages, a plot of reliability vs time produces what's known as the bathtub curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    And how is this relevant to the watches produced today?
    Responding to this:

    they used to be a much cheaper brand and it did not really matter so much.

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    Of all the brands I've owned Breitling, Zodiac and Smith's get full marks. Never had an issue.

    Omega. Terrible time keeping on one watch and a popping clap on another.
    AP. Date window out of alignment.
    Rolex. Minute hand was at 56 when your hand was on the marker.
    Zenith. Screw down crown wouldn't catch and chrono second fouled the minute hand.
    Grand seiko. Crystal edge was full of what looked like tiny bubbles, it's a common QC issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Not Rolex, Tudor or Panerai-related, but I know of one movement that has a design problem with a single part and that causes failure, the movement's a copy of an ETA design and the ETA version's fine, why they decided to alter this part is beyond me!

    Manufacturer has been notified but as far as I'm aware no change has been made.....Swiss always know best. I can`t name the movement but I`ve fixed several in recent years.

    Generally, mechanical items either fail very early in their life or they're fine for a long time, gradually losing reliability as the item ages, a plot of reliability vs time produces what's known as the bathtub curve.
    Why can't you 'name the movement' ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bry nylon View Post
    Why can't you 'name the movement' ?
    I'll take a guess at the SW200, I'm thinking of the extra jewel, I've never had one fail but can't think of another that's been modified.

    Sent from a technical device.

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    you're probably correct but I just thought it strange that walkerwek is unwilling to name it..

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    My Speedmaster Moonwatch has broken a mainspring 2 times and after the first one I was extra careful not to overwind. The last time it went to a VERY reputable Omega approved specialist for service/repair and they confirmed nothing actually out of spec, I just got unlucky it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bry nylon View Post
    you're probably correct but I just thought it strange that walkerwek is unwilling to name it..
    He could by then he would have to kill you.
    (Bergeoned to death!)


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