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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    To say Jota initiated contact is laughable. Rewatch it.
    I've seen it plenty of times and agree with Dubravkas assessment that Jota was looking for contact, there's plenty of analysis online.

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    The keeper has slid out got nowhere near the ball and make contact with Jota. That’s a foul by the laws of the game.
    Now you've actually seen it to know what the penalty was supposedly given for you presumably accept it should not have been a penalty and Jota is a diving cheat?

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    West Ham have loaned out their German international Thilo Kehrer to Monaco.

    He never really fitted in TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatdogwood View Post
    I've seen it plenty of times and agree with Dubravkas assessment that Jota was looking for contact, there's plenty of analysis online.



    Now you've actually seen it to know what the penalty was supposedly given for you presumably accept it should not have been a penalty and Jota is a diving cheat?
    What analysis online ? Do you have actual eyes ?

    How can you be looking for contact whilst being passed a keeper and the keeper hitting your trailing foot whilst it’s in the air ???

    There’s been contact, Jota’s obviously felt the contact as he’s running at full speed.

    As for a dive, you can dive and still be awarded a penalty if a foul has been committed. They aren’t connected in any way. You could be two footed in the knee and then proceed to roll around and do 50 roll overs the foul is still a foul.

    Jota has made the most of the contact obviously. Could he have planted his foot and not gone over and still remained composed to score ? MAYBE.

    Was there contact made by the keeper after a player had gone passed him - DEFINITELY

    Definition of a penalty - contact in the box that has a consequence.

    As for diving cheat - every player in the prem is a diving cheat.


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    A comfortable win for us today in the derby. Didn’t have to get out of second gear. No gloating from me as the quality of the squads was a total mismatch and we should have won it that comfortably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    A comfortable win for us today in the derby. Didn’t have to get out of second gear. No gloating from me as the quality of the squads was a total mismatch and we should have won it that comfortably.
    What I don’t understand is why if your players aren’t comfortable playing out from the back, and Sunderland didn’t look comfortable, does the manager continue to do it.

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    Ignore me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedyexplorer View Post
    What I don’t understand is why if your players aren’t comfortable playing out from the back, and Sunderland didn’t look comfortable, does the manager continue to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    What analysis online ? Do you have actual eyes ?

    How can you be looking for contact whilst being passed a keeper and the keeper hitting your trailing foot whilst it’s in the air ???

    There’s been contact, Jota’s obviously felt the contact as he’s running at full speed.

    As for a dive, you can dive and still be awarded a penalty if a foul has been committed. They aren’t connected in any way. You could be two footed in the knee and then proceed to roll around and do 50 roll overs the foul is still a foul.

    Jota has made the most of the contact obviously. Could he have planted his foot and not gone over and still remained composed to score ? MAYBE.

    Was there contact made by the keeper after a player had gone passed him - DEFINITELY

    Definition of a penalty - contact in the box that has a consequence.

    As for diving cheat - every player in the prem is a diving cheat.


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    Do you think it should have been a penalty, yes or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedyexplorer View Post
    What I don’t understand is why if your players aren’t comfortable playing out from the back, and Sunderland didn’t look comfortable, does the manager continue to do it.
    Totally agree. My lot beat Sunderland 3-0 in the League back in December, they are OK as a Championship side but the gulf in quality now with the prem is huge. You can get away with playing out against comparable opposition but soon get found out with better opponents.

    Hope Joelinton is OK, he could get into most sides. Solid performance from Newcastle, but about par for what I expected.

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    A fair summation. Joelinton was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch first half. We love him, absolute warrior. Bruno was exceptional also.

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatdogwood View Post
    Totally agree. My lot beat Sunderland 3-0 in the League back in December, they are OK as a Championship side but the gulf in quality now with the prem is huge. You can get away with playing out against comparable opposition but soon get found out with better opponents.

    Hope Joelinton is OK, he could get into most sides. Solid performance from Newcastle, but about par for what I expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatdogwood View Post
    Do you think it should have been a penalty, yes or no?
    Yes it’s a pen.

    Keepers sliding out, not getting the ball and making contact with a players legs is always a pen.

    The likes of Shearer claiming Jota diving is “ f******* embarrassing “ is laughable.

    Shearer was booked in his last England game for a pathetic attempt of a dive.


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    Guys, guys, guys. Try to remember one of life’s golden rules; never argue with a Liverpool fan, they’re never wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Guys, guys, guys. Try to remember one of life’s golden rules; never argue with a Liverpool fan, they’re never wrong.
    Eh ? I’m probably the most balanced Liverpool fan you’ll ever meet and I’m being serious. I’m not over invested in football, I see it as purely entertainment.

    I go the game for the social aspect and love the euro aways to get on the drink with my friends.

    Just tell It how I see it without any bias.


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    Got home from Heathrow, turned on Boro vs Villa, heard Dion Dublin's voice on commentary, switched it straight back off again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Guys, guys, guys. Try to remember one of life’s golden rules; never argue with a Liverpool fan, they’re never wrong.
    Romanians ffs

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    Well, Timo Werner on loan looks like a decent bit of business, especially if the buy option is going to be set at £15m as I’ve just seen reported. Hopefully he’ll be determined to prove himself in the EPL this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Eh ? I’m probably the most balanced Liverpool fan you’ll ever meet


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    Not a particularly high bar to set though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Not a particularly high bar to set though.
    We can agree on that.

    See told you I was balanced !!!!


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    Chelsea putting on a show today! Been a long time coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Well, Timo Werner on loan looks like a decent bit of business, especially if the buy option is going to be set at £15m as I’ve just seen reported. Hopefully he’ll be determined to prove himself in the EPL this time around.
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    Really?? If you get the player that Chelsea and RB got you’ll be bitterly disappointed.

    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Well, Timo Werner on loan looks like a decent bit of business, especially if the buy option is going to be set at £15m as I’ve just seen reported. Hopefully he’ll be determined to prove himself in the EPL this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
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    Really?? If you get the player that Chelsea and RB got you’ll be bitterly disappointed.
    I doubt it. Absolute diamond player. Never gives up, works his nuts off. Ange will get the best out of him. Absolute no risk deal for Spurs

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    I doubt it. Absolute diamond player. Never gives up, works his nuts off. Ange will get the best out of him. Absolute no risk deal for Spurs

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    My thoughts too - could turn out to be a gem.

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    The thing that would excite me as a Spurs fan/worries me as a Arsenal fan - the raw pace in the team. Son is quick but Brennan Johnson and Timo Werner with likes of Madison and Kulisevski to play them in with intelligent passes in behind - very dangerous combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    Chelsea putting on a show today! Been a long time coming!

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    Against Preston and a poor first half but as a supporter if it breeds confidence going forward great
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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    My thoughts too - could turn out to be a gem.
    No brainer for me. well happy with him coming in.

    Reports we will be back to our full back 4 come next weekend, even better news. Just need Maddison back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thfccambs View Post
    No brainer for me. well happy with him coming in.

    Reports we will be back to our full back 4 come next weekend, even better news. Just need Maddison back now.
    That really is good news, although I have to admit that I’m worried about all these hamstrings going at the moment (Davies being the latest instance). Now, of course, we have to get through January, and the absentees arising from the Asian and Afcon cups.

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    There's definitely a very good player lurking within Havertz somewhere.

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    Dross game, hope Liverpool get beat, would prefer to go out of this and the Europa and have a real go at the league.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Dross game, hope Liverpool get beat, would prefer to go out of this and the Europa and have a real go at the league.


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    That’s the spirit

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    Trent being......

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    Absolute robbery this but if you can't score your chances then you aren't going to win football matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Dross game, hope Liverpool get beat, would prefer to go out of this and the Europa and have a real go at the league.


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    Dross game, dross performance and fortunately dross opposition. If we had played anyone but the bottlers we would have lost today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Absolute robbery this but if you can't score your chances then you aren't going to win football matches
    Robbery ? Arsenal are absolutely crap.

    Nowhere near winning the league level.

    All the nonsense you’ve spouted the last 12 months and you’re back at square one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Absolute robbery this but if you can't score your chances then you aren't going to win football matches
    Well ya know. Don't even need a full team and all that. It helps that var and refs are all Liverpool fans though XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Robbery ? Arsenal are absolutely crap.

    Nowhere near winning the league level.

    All the nonsense you’ve spouted the last 12 months and you’re back at square one.


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    Sure.

    Again a somewhat myopic view of events but that's to be expected from you.

    Arsenal were one decent striker away from being 3 or 4 nil up at half time. Liverpool showed grit to hang on in there, created a couple of chances themselves, and won on the break. Pretty sure Arsenal aren't 'crap'. Your 1st XI couldn't beat us a couple of weeks ago at Klanfield. Today's match was between 2 weakened sides.

    Also, we are of course in the Champions League.....
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    Actually don’t mind losing, hopefully closer to Arteta getting sacked.

    We still should have won, if City had the chances we had in the first half they would be 3 or 4 nil up at half time.


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    Very poor Arsenal performance against a threadbare Liverpool side.

    I’m no Saka fan and I certainly don’t watch Arsenal regularly, but he seems to be getting worse every time I see him - what’s going on? He was shocking today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    Actually don’t mind losing, hopefully closer to Arteta getting sacked.

    We still should have won, if City had the chances we had in the first half they would be 3 or 4 nil up at half time.


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    Really not a fan of him are you? Can’’t say I’ve heard the same from other Arsenal fans…..yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Sure.

    Again a somewhat myopic view of events but that's to be expected from you.

    Arsenal were one decent striker away from being 3 or 4 nil up at half time. Liverpool showed grit to hang on in there, created a couple of chances themselves, and won on the break. Pretty sure Arsenal aren't 'crap'. Your 1st XI couldn't beat us a couple of weeks ago at Klanfield. Today's match was between 2 weakened sides.

    Also, we are of course in the Champions League.....
    What’s myopic about it ?

    You’ve get it the big one the last 12 months about Arsenal and how good Arsenal are.

    Arsenal have the best squad in the league, Arsenal have the most expansive squad on paper. Arsenal have the world’s most valuable goal keeper.

    You’re as deluded as they come and haven’t got a scooby about football.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    Actually don’t mind losing, hopefully closer to Arteta getting sacked.

    We still should have won, if City had the chances we had in the first half they would be 3 or 4 nil up at half time.


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    That's because they are city!

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    Oh well. Season over for Arse trophy wise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kultschar View Post
    Oh well. Season over for Arse trophy wise!
    Fight for top four now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Fight for top four now.
    Indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    What’s myopic about it ?


    You’re as deluded as they come and haven’t got a scooby about football.


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    Deluded would be blaming Romanian tourists for your own fans using Heysel as a reason to taunt Everton fans....

    Anyway hope your travelling fans get home safely without harming other fans/themselves and hopefully the fans who remained in Liverpool didn't once again take the opportunity to burgle the homes of the Liverpool players who travelled down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Deluded would be blaming Romanian tourists for your own fans using Heysel as a reason to taunt Everton fans....

    Anyway hope your travelling fans get home safely without harming other fans/themselves and hopefully the fans who remained in Liverpool didn't once again take the opportunity to burgle the homes of the Liverpool players who travelled down.
    Hope you have a good time visiting Southamptons Russian Fan club in a few months with your Thai friends buddy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
    Very poor Arsenal performance against a threadbare Liverpool side.

    I’m no Saka fan and I certainly don’t watch Arsenal regularly, but he seems to be getting worse every time I see him - what’s going on? He was shocking today.
    If he put as much effort into actually playing the game as he does diving around and trying to con the ref, he'd be an unbelievable player. He must spend half the game lying on the grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Deluded would be blaming Romanian tourists for your own fans using Heysel as a reason to taunt Everton fans....

    Anyway hope your travelling fans get home safely without harming other fans/themselves and hopefully the fans who remained in Liverpool didn't once again take the opportunity to burgle the homes of the Liverpool players who travelled down.
    I'm sure you copy/paste this every week X/

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    Has there ever been a more unlikeable manager in the Premier League than Mikel Arteta? What a w***er! He's the most petty, petulant, belligerent, snide, passive-aggressive turd I've ever had the displeasure to listen to. I alwys preferred Arsenal to the likes of Man U, Liverpool and Man City, but now I want them to get smashed every week just to laugh at that graceless numpty afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Traveller View Post
    Has there ever been a more unlikeable manager in the Premier League than Mikel Arteta? What a w***er! He's the most petty, petulant, belligerent, snide, passive-aggressive turd I've ever had the displeasure to listen to. I alwys preferred Arsenal to the likes of Man U, Liverpool and Man City, but now I want them to get smashed every week just to laugh at that graceless numpty afterwards.
    Clearly you've forgotten Conte already

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