Reply With QuoteFirst thing I would do is contact Genesis, Titanium frames should not fail like this. As a minimum you may get a healthy discount off a new bike.
Ps I have a Genesis tit frame , so Im going out now to check it :)
Last night I found a crack in the frame of my 10year old hardtail. It’s a Genesis Latitude in titanium with 26” wheels. Rather disappointing to say the least but on the flip side it’s an excuse to get a modern new bike.
Trends appear to have changed a lot with bigger wheels and Suntour and SRAM prevalent in the market when it used to be Rockshox and Shimano.
I’m 51 so want a lightweight hardtail that is fairly relaxed and with decent spec. Too old for a xc racer. Budget is around £1500 although not set in stone and wife may recommend I go cheaper. Just don’t want to be tempted to spend even more money on aftermarket upgrades.
Would welcome recommendations as I’m unfamiliar with the current market.
Thanks
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Last edited by mylofitz; 25th May 2023 at 08:07.
First thing I would do is contact Genesis, Titanium frames should not fail like this. As a minimum you may get a healthy discount off a new bike.
Ps I have a Genesis tit frame , so Im going out now to check it :)
Canyon are very popular here in Germany, and for good reason. Maybe the Grand Canyon would be a good option to consider as it’s well spec’ed for the price and isn’t a full-on aggressive XC racer. In your price range I guess you’d be looking at either the GC7, the GC8, or the GC9. Not much weight difference between them but the components improve a lot as you go up.
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/mountai.../grand-canyon/
Have a look at Cube. Very good value for the spec offered on many models.
I got a Nukeproof Scout 275 comp recently, very happy with it.
Certainly worth taking a look
As per earlier comment, I'd reach out to the manufacturer of your old bike, surprised it's gone like that on titanium
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Take a look at the Whyte 529. RockShox fork and decent 4 piston callipers.
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I was going to suggest cotic Solaris or BFe but looked at the prices now and they seem to have headed north.
Also had a look on https://Paulscycles.co.uk/ my usual hunting ground for discounted new old stock 1-2 year old models & it’s slim pickings
Looks like the Whyte 905 2022 can be had for your budget with great specs.
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I've lost track of latest stuff too but if you narrow it down I tend to look at https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/ for used /nearly new etc. I miss my Orange Crush which I sold on here as left with FS Intense which in great but overkill for my current capacity of parking in a shed.
I echo the others and really recommend the Whyte hard tails, great bikes.
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Another one who recommends Whyte, excellent manufacturer.
Thanks for everyone's input. I've spoken to Genesis. It's never made easy but will look to pursue the warranty claim. Paypal has provided me with the proof of purchase from 2013. I've a Cube Kathmandu Pro which has impressed me as a ebike so will look at Cube's non ebike offerings as well as Whyte. My employer runs the cycle to work scheme (vivup) so may be options there.
So if you're coming from a 26er, you first need to think about wheel size. Id say 29er unless you are small.
Then frame material, probably Aluminium at the price point buying new.
Suntour brand now only associated with cheap forks these days so far as I know, rockshox or Fox are the leadings mainstream brands now. You'll get an amazing fork on a new bike for the price.
SRAM and Shimano still the group set kings. SRAM all over new bikes, obviously doing deals with the brands. Their lower range 12 speed eagle (sx/nx) had a poor rep intially but I think it's okay. Ive used it without issue. These are the big grouppos at this price point.
I reckon if you can find something with Shimano deore /slx, probably a bit more robust. But not a deal breaker
Thru axles, boost spacing etc all exciting stuff.
Then youve got your brand's, the more premium super brands giant/trek/specialize/Cannondale etc, or the slightly less expensive Whytes, Boardman, Cube etc, offering a slightly better spec for the money. Even Boardmans top spec HT is decent for much less than your budget
Something like this might tick your boxes
https://vitusbikes.com/collections/m...tain-bike-2022
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Im pretty sure a Vitus bike won MBR’s best bike of the year recently, Ill go digging!Originally Posted by xxnick1975
Found it MBR Jan 23 , its called a Mythique or something, it was best bike in the test BUT its a full susser.
Steve
Last edited by higham5; 25th May 2023 at 17:31.
The one I linked to was HT of the year 19,20, and 21.
But to be honest, bike reviews are never the most trustworthy thing imho
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Last edited by xxnick1975; 25th May 2023 at 18:46.
Depends what you are riding , but go and ride a full sus would be my shout. I ride/ race mainly on what you would call flattish tracks - north and South Downs is my local patch and while a titanium 26 is my winter bike , a 29er full sus is my summer bike .
My approach to getting what I wanted was to buy a Santa Cruz carbon Tallboy that was old and then I put a basic 1 by 12 drive train on it , for a fair bit less than £1500. A new full sus for £1500 may be doable but a bit heavy.. as to hard tails I always liked specialised as a brand , and a Stumpjumper aluminium hard tail was my first new bike. Alas recent years have seen them bumping up their rrp s on everything , but time are changing and a close out deal maybe possible , especially if you can wait until end summer ( old cheap frame to replace the genesis )
Good luck with whatever you get .
i have a Vitus sentier 27 .5 and a mythique 29erbbrilliant Bikes. and great Value. theres a sentier vrx on chain reaction for £1300 ish with a great Spec, have two sets of wheels for the sentier. one set with lightish tyres which is great for gravel paths
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OP how tall are you? I have a frankly obscene spec bike I don't ride anymore I'd sell, the chaps in the bike shop I use for servicing call it the Zonda.
Frame is a small though, I'm 5'7.
I’m 5’’’’ft 8”” and have always had medium 17.5 frames. Would consider s/h but ideally one of those bikes that was bought on a whim with great intentions but never used.
The Vitus seems great vfm compared with the bigger names and definitely a contender.
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Last edited by mylofitz; 26th May 2023 at 05:16.
I'd also check out Go Outdoors... they used to have a fully suspended bike (Calibre Bossnut or something like that) that wiped the floor with almost everything else at the £1k and £1.5k marks. I rode with a couple of guys who had them and for the price they were untouchable. I think they've changed the range but worth a look.
The hardtails were very well thought of as well.
Having had a few bikes the correct and only answer is…..
Spesh
You won’t get best value, you won’t get best kit, won’t be prettiest, least bells and whistles but in 10 years time it will be as good as new
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Frame might be a bit too small
Sage advice. Stumpy's are full sus now but they have some pretty cool HT across the range. Chisel is a sexy thing
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Got an orange p7 frame, medium, if you wanna transfer your old bits over?
Thanks Luckyhands for the offer. I have been contemplating a donor frame as would be a shame not to utilise the old parts. Unfortunately the forks are tapered so does limit the options on a 26” wheel frame.
I took the cracked frame to the dealer yesterday who will contact Genesis regarding the lifetime warranty. Will just have to wait and see what Genesis have to say.
Thanks everyone for the recommendations. It’s given me much food for thought.
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Interesting thread. Many moons ago, same thing happened to me with a GT bike. They replaced the frame with upgrade which was a GT Zaskar which I still have, and is very retro now.
Hopefully you'll get a replacement, I can't see why not, if they offer lifetime warranty.
On the suggestions, I have a Calibre Line 10 hard tail from Go Outdoors. I got in in the promo sale, and it's been fantastic. However, I used it pretty lightly, fire trails and single track, no big jumps or serious downhills.
Good luck, and keep us posted.
can it not be welded , looks like the Headtube
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Ti is much harder to weld than steel. It could be fixed but I would not trust a Ti frame that cracked, it normally means the original welding was not done in the right conditions i.e. I wouldn't trust the rest of it. Especially the joints.
Not many ti welders these days. Enigma? Won't be cheap .
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Agreed. Realistically that needs a new headtube, which is unlikely to be cost effective.
Hopefully the warranty claim will go somewhere
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Forgive me but how would a crack in the head tube be related to the quality in welding?
Not being properly shielded when the welding was done can make things brittle; where it is isn't far away from a weld. Potentially. Could also just be a stress crack from use. Either way, it's not a frame I'd trust. A repair would also not be cost effective I don't think, not too many ti frame makers in the UK.
Last edited by Bondurant; 29th May 2023 at 11:34.
On a related note, I had a Ti frame crack near a weld (top of seat post). I sent it back to Enigma, who also offered a lifetime warranty. They initially said it was repairable. And then sent me a new frame after a few months.
Out of interest what is the advantage of a larger wheel set? 29er Vs 27.5
Faster. Roll over stuff easier.
But Small wheels accelerate up to speed sooner and offer greater agility.
Then there are these + size wheels now to further confuse things - external diameter being the key metric.
All a load on marketing guff for most of us, if you ask me.
Personally for anyone over 5.9 I'd go with a 29er, boost, and 130 travel fork as a good all-rounder
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Last edited by xxnick1975; 29th May 2023 at 19:05.
Thanks - that’s good info for a novice. I am after something for the local towpaths the odd trail.
Last time I looked the whyte 905 and trek roscoe where recommended. That vitus is on my radar now too, might be time to make use of the cycle to work scheme
Last edited by Middo; 29th May 2023 at 20:43.
To be fair, all three bikes you mention would be brilliant and absolutely goose the riding you describe. Which colour do you prefer
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Ha ha - thanks Nick.
After looking at possible replacements I’m surprised how heavy modern mountain bikes have become, even the very expensive ones.. Not really sure the reason for this trend.
Last edited by mylofitz; 30th May 2023 at 07:41.
Best place for used bikes? EBay seems a bit if a pain
Local bike shop or club forum. Facebook sounds like a thieves' paradise, I've not done badly with ebay over the years to be fair.
Absolutely do make use of the work scheme, it's a no brainer. Who's the provider of your work scheme?? Don't worry if it's Halfords, you can redeem their Letter of Collection at Tredz and also many independent bike shops.
Good luck with whatever you decide
Paul
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Ta I think I have a short list
Whyte 905
Nukeproof scout
Vitus sentier
Trek roscoe
If you spend time on theroad then 29er is miles better. I sold my Marin and got a Scott Scale and it's like going from a Beetle to a Golf R.
Pinkbike you can narrow by type of bike etc and usually well looked after/ nice upgrades etc I'd be looking for smartwater and postcodes etc. I was on MTB forum but they were taken over and screwed up the membership otherwise I'd have recommended them and to find like minded (levels) for pedalling in your areas too.
To my understanding it's all to do with the repeated hits they are now expected to shrug off. If you look at cross country courses these days they are pretty full on, and the downhill stuff is just absurd in terms of the forces at play.
it's all about finding the right bike for your use, something like a 905 mentioned above is a brilliant bike (i ride a 901) but it's total overkill unless it's going to be pointed down some sketchy hills.
i know it's a massive debate but unless i'm on an actual mtb trail with big drops i usually take my gravel bike (fairlight secan) as that does mixed surfaces way better. But each to their own.
Last edited by Lazydonkey; 6th June 2023 at 10:55.
Ive owned both a Whyte 901 and a 905 at the same time and when the time came to sell one, sold the 905. The 901 is more than adequate for tow paths and lighter trails, although im a very leisurely rider. The 905 made way for an e-180rs which is great for a fat old bloke like me
Op - This has just come up and seems a decent deal. https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...sizeStandard=m
I am also considering the Chromo black HT on sale corner.
I mean at that price it's an absolute bargain. Fork alone is £350
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