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    Critter identification

    Seems this forum has a broad range of experiences so here is a random one.

    Anyone know what these are?

    We have just had the upstairs carpet replaced with new wool carpet.

    We have found about 8 of these.

    What are they, could they have come in on the new carpet and what is the likely issue.

    I have done some Googling and the don’t appear to be carpet beetle.

    The look like small wood lice.



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    Woodlice exactly as you thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by uktotty View Post
    Woodlice exactly as you thought

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    I’m wondering how they have appeared on the new carpet.

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    https://www.pestcontroldirect.co.uk/...-in-the-house/

    Those are wood lice. Probably disturbed a little nest in the skirting or radiator pipe hole.

    Nothing much to worry about, unless you get dozens of them coming out.

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    They're edible and taste similar to shrimp – which is not surprising as they're both crustaceans

    40 different species in UK

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    Actually they're called pill bugs as they're the shape of a pill. They roll into a ball for protection

    Does the image match?


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    Woodlice / slater (Scotland).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DONGinsler View Post
    Actually they're called pill bugs as they're the shape of a pill. They roll into a ball for protection
    In the UK, they are called woodlice (singular: woodlouse).

    One variety can roll into a ball (for defence) whilst other varieties can’t. Our house is full of the things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial View Post
    They're edible and taste similar to shrimp – which is not surprising as they're both crustaceans

    40 different species in UK

    https://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/pra...ft-experience/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONGinsler View Post
    Actually they're called pill bugs as they're the shape of a pill. They roll into a ball for protection
    Love the use of "actually" when (f)actually incorrect.
    Last edited by gunner; 6th April 2023 at 09:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONGinsler View Post
    Actually they're called pill bugs as they're the shape of a pill. They roll into a ball for protection

    Does the image match?


    Despite the strong superficial resemblance, pill 'bugs' are neither woodlice/slaters nor true bugs, but actually a specialised group of millipedes.

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    To the OP: if you have woodlice indoors, then you have rotting wood somewhere in the structure of your house and would do well to check for a leaking roof, overflowing gutters or rising damp. Sorry. We have all of those if it's any consolation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post

    To the OP: if you have woodlice indoors, then you have rotting wood somewhere in the structure of your house and would do well to check for a leaking roof, overflowing gutters or rising damp. Sorry. We have all of those if it's any consolation...
    Indeed. We have never seen them before so I’m wondering if they have come in on the new carpet.

    I will keep a watch for further cases. So far limited to a few.

    We have discovered a leak under the bath but no evidence of rot.

    From my reading up any wood would have to be very rotten.

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    Called 'Granny Bugs' round my way when I was a kid, 'Granny Greys' a few valleys across, and 'Hardbacks' where my missus is from 30 mile away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Love the use of "actually" when (f)actually incorrect.
    :0)

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    We used to call them cheesy bugs as a kid. No idea why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Love the use of "actually" when (f)actually incorrect.
    I stand corrected, but search description did bring up pill bug and only checked images to confirm

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    Critter identification

    Quote Originally Posted by sundial View Post
    They're edible and taste similar to shrimp – which is not surprising as they're both crustaceans

    40 different species in UK

    https://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/pra...ft-experience/

    Cooking demo: https://www.woodlands.co.uk/tv/2011/...hcraft-skills/

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    Back in the early 70’s my mum panicked when she discovered my little brother had turned over a paving stone in the back garden and was munching on a handful of wood lice! - it’s one of my earliest memories as my mum was so worried and I remember chuckling at my little brothers antics. The doctors response? Nothing wrong with a bit of fresh meat, he’ll be fine!
    Last edited by RobDad; 6th April 2023 at 13:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Love the use of "actually" when (f)actually incorrect.
    Anyone who uses the word 'Actually' to start a post should be in the current Bear Pit poll. :)

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    Meanwhile I’m still wondering where they came from.

    Found 2 more today.

    I’m going to look under the shower tray as that’s the most likely spot where a leak may be hiding creating a habitable space for them. A right PITA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Love the use of "actually" when (f)actually incorrect.
    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Despite the strong superficial resemblance, pill 'bugs' are neither woodlice/slaters nor true bugs, but actually a specialised group of millipedes.
    Seems at odds with this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillidium_vulgare.

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    We call them tanks in our house =)

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    They are harmless, but they do like humidity and damp. It might not be rotting wood, it can just be that with the spring and drier weather they are seeking darker, cooler and damper areas. It's possible also that the new carpet was in a warehouse with 60%+ humidity and they hitched a ride to your house. Worth checking the humidity level and using a dehumidifier for a few days as they'll leave you alone as soon as it's too dry for them.

    I could never get rid of them in my old garage. They'd hide in there and die as it was cold and dark, but nothing at all in there for them to eat. Every once in a while I'd have to vacuum hundreds of their carcasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Not really. Pill bugs are woodlice but not all woodlice are pill bugs. Those in the photo aren't.
    Last edited by gunner; 6th April 2023 at 17:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
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    We called them cheese logs when I was a kid - no idea why.

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    Critter identification

    Quote Originally Posted by DMC102 View Post
    We called them cheese logs when I was a kid - no idea why.
    Are you from Berkshire or thereabouts? My Reading friends called them cheeselogs whereas in Marlow they were just woodlice or occasionally peabugs.

    Woodlice regional name variations are up there with bread rolls for identifying where you grew up. There’s a map I saw of the names somewhere.

    Edit: just seen your location haha!
    Last edited by Plake; 7th April 2023 at 07:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plake View Post
    Are you from Berkshire or thereabouts? My Reading friends called them cheeselogs whereas in Marlow they were just woodlice or occasionally peabugs.

    Woodlice regional name variations are up there with bread rolls for identifying where you grew up. There’s a map I saw of the names somewhere.

    Edit: just seen your location haha!
    I'm from Cippenham nr Slough and they were always just woodlice to me, but my Cox Green Maidenhead wife calls them cheeselogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    In the UK, they are called woodlice (singular: woodlouse).

    One variety can roll into a ball (for defence) whilst other varieties can’t. Our house is full of the things.
    Maybe you should invite Sundial round to sort this for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Not really. Pill bugs are woodlice but not all woodlice are pill bugs. Those in the photo aren't.

    It's a great example of two things -

    1. Nature provides an exception to every man-made generalisation.

    2. This is why we use Latinised names for things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC102 View Post
    We called them cheese logs when I was a kid - no idea why.
    And neither does the OED, but it does say that the name dates back to the 17th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbad The Bad View Post
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    ...only dated back to 1946.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbad The Bad View Post
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    My mum always called them Wood Piggies. I quite like them actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONGinsler View Post
    Actually they're called pill bugs as they're the shape of a pill. They roll into a ball for protection

    Does the image match?

    I think the creatures in your image are pill millipedes, see the "Pillbugs and pill millipedes" seciton here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodlouse

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    I think they might be Pedalternorotandomovens centroculatus articulosus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    I think they might be Pedalternorotandomovens centroculatus articulosus.

    They're on their way to this staircase to make their way up, or down. Whatever.


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    Was out waking earlier today and spotted this….




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    Slow worm/lizard not snake.
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    Its markings are beautiful - hopefully it's tail will regrow, at least partly, in time

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
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    Dropped its tail end at some point….probably attacked by something

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    Always called them Hardbacks. Had a few recently finding their way in through our pvc door threshold. Haven’t seen many spiders in the house this year though. Probably not a coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtagrant View Post
    Was out waking earlier today and spotted this….
    We got a real live one!!!

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